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TPK said:
Alright, thank you.

[x] Null

I would once more like to confirm that I am the Village Fisherman, but that all I fish for are normal fish. Fishing for wizards or knife killers would be quite silly of me. I do not intend to hook anything but fish, after all, and I would never dream of going fishing for information. Or men.

Now let us not hide behind the aegis of "but that's not balanced", because most of our games are horribly balanced on SV. What we can do is let the next night or two tell us about the format. We are only on day 2, after all, and we avoided a scum kill last night. Winged Cat has also gone on the record as saying that he admits his proposed numbers are just a hunch, and not something he was definitely given.

Not saying we should trust Winged Cat or his information quite yet, but I don't think we need to lynch him today either, not when there are other people we could try to drag information out of instead.

I ask @LostDeviljho again, what is your ability and will you allow Town to verify that it is what you say it is tonight? That will let us trust you, and let me expand my little fishing expedition.
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I just woke up and maybe this is a bad idea to answer but fuckit.
I am... *Drumroll* a perfectly ordinary vanilla townie.
 
Cakestepid said:
Who has claimed? I know that mega and TPK have, I might have missed one though.
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I said, I can confirm there was one vanilla. Softclaim, my guy.

Now, hardclaim! I'm your local village inkeeper, and I'm confused as heck. One thing I do know? We're lynching winged cat, or at least I hope so. That's too many for your setup to make sense.
 
I wouldn't be too sure on there being so many vanillas as such, but whatevs.

There would be a town protective, a town investigative and some other town ability I should think. If those 3 vanilla claims are correct that has 6 towns, but I still think there are some scum amongst the vanillas.

Let's say one scum among the three.

off to the zoo.

[X] null

SPEAK NINJA

[X] LYNCH Shadow Shinobi
 
Approximately 24~ hours remain in day 2. If you aren't happy with the current lynch target, I suggest working quickly to change opinions.
 
So I can't really remember exactly what I was trying to say but it was suspicions aimed at alphadelta. However I do not believe they would be lying about internet problems and headaches so I'll put that on the back burner and try and recall my reasoning.

However I want to see more from the newbies and at least rikimaru is present, so @shadow shinobi give us a rundown of the player list, what are your thoughts, however minor, on each of us? Rikimaru I would love the same from you.

[X] Lynch Shadow Shinobi

Nanimani -
TPK -
Atk50 -
Bahn -
AlphaDelta -
Pawn Lelouch -
LostDeviljho -
The Phoenixian Cakestepid -
Megaolix -
ComiTurtle -
Rikimaru -
Shadow shinobi -
Joebobjoe -
Winged Cat -

Also that is quite a few vanilla claims, I'd suggest to avoid further claiming without pushing because its generally a good thing for scum to hit vanillas over power roles and claiming vanilla could get you out of their targeting. Though who knows maybe a power role is claiming vanilla and now scum has to deal with that Wine.
 
LostDeviljho said:
I just woke up and maybe this is a bad idea to answer but fuckit.
I am... *Drumroll* a perfectly ordinary vanilla townie.
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Honestly I was planning to pretend to be an investigator and try to bat some maf into going for me, but that would've been impossible to verify and with you actively offering to protect me there would've been too high a chance of the maf not going for it. Ah well.
 
After reviewing all posts by alphadelta my suspicions are are easily correlated to their very public situation they have told us about, and thus I will be withdrawing my suspicions back to my general level of suspicion on all players. Wish we got to see the post that got eaten by the phone, though I feel alphadelta is far more disappointed and frustrated by that than I ever could be.

Time to review someone else's post catalog.
 
ComiTurtle said:
After reviewing all posts by alphadelta my suspicions are are easily correlated to their very public situation they have told us about, and thus I will be withdrawing my suspicions back to my general level of suspicion on all players. Wish we got to see the post that got eaten by the phone, though I feel alphadelta is far more disappointed and frustrated by that than I ever could be.

Time to review someone else's post catalog.
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JBJ's been awfly quiet.
 
I am pretty certain there is at least one village investigative, given the fluff text I was given about being investigated.
 
atk50 said:
JBJ's been awfly quiet.
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Just been a bit distracted and don't really have anything to add today. Will try to go over stuff and see if there's anything I'm missing later, but kinda ambivalent on Lynch targets today and the only other major thing to comment on is Winged Cat's explaination of the setup, which I've already done. Stuck in lurk mode right now.
 
First in game post is a warning that they are physically ill, this isn't a thing that should be held against anyone, though it should be kept in mind and as time goes on if participation doesn't increase in future days it does become a point of interest. As each day generates something to be analyzed.

Joebobjoe said:
Ah, the joys of being distracted during a hammer game. By the time you check what's going on you can't vote because it would get things too close. Honestly both sides have me facepalming, but really Day one Lynches tend to be a mess like that. At least there's no actual claims yet.
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Observation/check-in post, I like them as it at least shows you're paying attention, however having to many is always a concern if they are not eventually joined with stances and analysis. I did press him to take a side as this observation didn't.

Joebobjoe said:
Honestly probably TPK, though Nani is somewhat suspicious too.
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States a side but worded in a on the fence sort of the way giving credence to both sides which isn't inherently bad both sides had and still had points on the matter. Its a safe response.

Joebobjoe said:
[X] Lynch TPK
Because frankly it's getting obnoxious, and I remember the games where we used role card info as verification. It gets tiresome fast, and either wrecks the setup or fails to give good results. There's little reason to think the scum don't know the name of the (lowercase) town. I mean it's two people being stubborn at one another but I'm willing to give Nani benefit of the doubt.

Also because this honestly looks to me like a slightly different scum ploy than the one he pulled last game. Instead of actively clamping down on info he grandstands about a minor detail in a way that creates an impression he's Town because he knows a random factoid that doesn't actually have reason for scum not to know it.
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Change of tune to an extent now a "major" stance has been made with a vote 5 onto TPK, a vote that seems to move to Nanimani not being lynched as nanimani had just reached vote 6 while TPK dropped down to vote 4 due to Shadow Shinobi's vote swap. Does add reasoning to the action that is somewhat new though to be fair very few reasons could be expressed that weren't already in day 1.

Joebobjoe said:
[X] Unvote TPK
Not entirely sure about Masked, but can understand wanting the others disarmed just in case.
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Jumps off TPK and a statement distancing himself from TMR's lynch, not joining it, which honestly makes me believe they are not a teammate of TMR. However with TMR appearing most likely 3rd party that isn't really a telling analysis.

Joebobjoe said:
Honestly seems a bit wonky to have Town start outnumbered by thirds. As is by your count we'd already have an equal number of Townies and thirds. Perhaps 2 of each faction except you? Still bad but would mean we're not having Ritual levels of everyone for themselves. Regardless, assuming what you say is true, Town is in a pretty awkward spot.
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Observational post though with some light analysis, worded in such a way that is does believe the Winged Cat claim just not in its entirety.

Joebobjoe said:
Could be rolecop Maf who hit lucky and found a Hunter. See a wizard, see a Hunter, assume they're made for one another, get easy gratitude and separation from Town by giving out slightly doctored info. Maybe keep the Hunter in mind for if they start to reach majority, or need a scapegoat.

Admittedly that's complete paranoia on how the info could be technically correct but be obtained by different means. Happy to believe him for now, agree it seems too complex to be made up.
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Theorycrafting, nothing inherently wrong with that, though as a general statement I disagree with the thought that complex claims are unlikely to be false. This idea actually makes complex claims more powerful as if you can justify something that sounds weird you can make people believe it, this works both as town and non-town as I made up a complicated role in TPK's game as town where I could convert people that claimed third party into good guys during the day if they said a phrase I made up then added a bit more where they would die if they attempted to kill in the night after making the oath. It didn't seem to convince the townies all that much but it did freak out and put both scum factions on their toes. So complexity does not denote honesty.

Joebobjoe said:
Just been a bit distracted and don't really have anything to add today. Will try to go over stuff and see if there's anything I'm missing later, but kinda ambivalent on Lynch targets today and the only other major thing to comment on is Winged Cat's explaination of the setup, which I've already done. Stuck in lurk mode right now.
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Oh hi, I'm sure you have something to add why not do a quick list of your thoughts on all the players if nothing else?

Also some paranoia driven theorycrafting as I never trust anyone fully. I do not think the following is the case ->

What if scum decided not to kill and had nanimani claim being healed to try and pull the doctor into revealing? If the doctor reveals yes they likely lose a member but they get the doctor killed that night, if the doctor doesn't reveal they instill nanimani into our thoughts and minds as town for being attacked but healed and thus not mafia. If they kill the doctor the next night their ruse becomes very stable and unlikely to be disproved.

Once again I don't believe that scenario occured but it was an interesting thought experiment. Reasoning on why I don't believe that is the case is ->

Killing Nanimani makes sense last night if you kill and reveal Nanimani as town (who has claimed a power role so scum know they are removing some form of power role unless Nanimani was bluffing) you throw additional shade onto what was team lynch Nanimani and may be able to get a lynch off on that selection of players having a bit of the policy lynch flavor return in force, this also would give benefit to the defenses of those on team Lynch TPK as that team would've been defending a now confirmed townie. Basically I'm saying good job doctor.
 
Nanimani - Powered Town. Healed after being stabbed on altar by edgy scum.

TPK - Town or fucking amazing scum

Atk50 - not sure if our shared weaboo tastes make me think he is Town

Bahn - no real opinion. Lives up to his namesake. If he is scum then deadly pillow kills.

AlphaDelta - town, and i wanna see what he comes up with when not migraining

Pawn Lelouch - helpful but possibly scum.

LostDeviljho - claimed third or so vanilla town, might be scum

The Phoenixian Cakestepid - almost nothing known, probs just town tbh. Phoenixian untalkative anyways.

Megaolix - was thinking scum but his constant attack on Winged Cat makes him either Town or Hunter. If I was mafia i would avoid dispelling the illusion of confusion. Mafia benefits from a town not wanting to piss of third party independents.

ComiTurtle - goddamn it. I think town. Too much useful observations but not pure

Rikimaru - Town. No one has even attempted to cast suspicion on me. Maybe scum is hoping town lynch me for being talkative or I am gonna be joining the cult tonight and they want me as unsuspicious as possible.
Note i have no opinion on if scum=cult but if they are then i would cult me.

Shadow shinobi - SCUM TO THE MAX DOESNT EVEN DEFEND ANYMORE
Joebobjoe - lmao probs scum. Nothing interesting either way

Winged Cat - scum or last Traditiinal Wizard or FireCracker Holder of Godly Killing As A Survivor

I went off on a tangent i think at times. Phonepoasting
 
LostDeviljho said:
Man even my honest roleclaim is being doubted. Y'all just don't like me do ya? :V
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Its more that you havnt been very talkative until now with ur jumping in on vanilla claiming a bit later.

Also glad u said u were not lying xd.

Anyway u are like fourth in my "lets avenge Sayori" plan.
I think i also said in like day one that claiming/hinting at a role faster would have caused me to shrug at shadow shinobis scum tells a little more.

If i were mafia i would attempt to conform to town expectations on what town behaves like. So its possible u decided to claim an unprovable and harmless role to avoid or reduce suspicion.
There is at least 3 scum in a faction and a neutral pair i think unless wingedcat is honest.
 
Rikimaru said:
Its more that you havnt been very talkative until now with ur jumping in on vanilla claiming a bit later.
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Let's be fair here, I was literally asleep when you lot all started spilling your guts and stealing my thunder. I couldn't have claimed earlier even if I wanted to. :p

Honestly, not all that concerned for myself. I'll still argue against me being lynched, of course, because I know any lynch that hits me is one that's not hitting maf, but if I die it's not the end of the world. All I have to contribute without a useable power is my (currently anemic) observations thus far, and it's not like town would be losing one of their investigators or anything. (or would they? *dramatic music sting, eyebrow wiggle*)
 
I have returned my computer broke and I am currently borrowing my friends phone but I have decided to role claim.

I am the village hunter a member of the village people and I watched tpk last night and he was visited by the phoenixian but neither of them mentioned anything about it so I assumed that the phoenixian was some sort of body guard but now I'm not sure....
 
I give up.

I'm not giving up on the game, but I am giving up on this day phase.

I'm not voting to lynch anybody today. I'm going to come back later.
 
TPK said:
I give up.

I'm not giving up on the game, but I am giving up on this day phase.

I'm not voting to lynch anybody today. I'm going to come back later.
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Are you allowed to do that in this way? Weird. If we have an investigator, I recommend TPK.
 
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