"It's just how I see the world." Seeing is a sense. Sensing something because you see it it how visuals work.
Why would we disregard the description as given and go with an interpretation instead? Why add more complexity to the issue?
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"It's just how I see the world." Seeing is a sense. Sensing something because you see it it how visuals work.
Why would we disregard the description as given and go with an interpretation instead? Why add more complexity to the issue?
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I agree that it's not clear who is in the van, but we won't know until MPpi says one way or the other. Please stop jumping on people bringing it up.
As to the 'discussion' on how Dean's powers work: all of you stop harping on it. It obviously works as him feeling the emotions of others in this story, as is the case when he shows up in any of MPpi's stories. Whether that's canon or not is a moot point.
Ace Dreamer
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This is Taylor. Giving her sorcery that allows biological transformation/control, AND use of QA... Might make one wonder what happens when her range reaches a certain Greek mountain... Possibly (lost caves on?) certain Greek islands...
If Taylor had a Locker Experience that dumped a time-misjump'd T-1000 in with her she'd use QA to take control of every element in that body, do basic repairs on herself (using Skynet databases), and can-open the locker.
Later, she'd use the Skynet tech database to make more 'mimetic poiyalloy', and the flesh cloner used in the T-800, have fake animals and insects, all over BB, add relay stations, bootstrap her way up to full nanotech, make 'I'll Be Back' (and other) jokes...
Does that sound familiar?
(Give Taylor The Tools...)
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Many people are described as "seeing the world in black and white" - in almost none of those cases is this statement literal, or even about the sense of vision.
NB I'm not saying you're wrong, just pointing out a possible source of the ambiguity others are detecting.
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Dean really needs some flight systems in his 'Gallant' armor. With Vicky as his girlfriend, it's only sensible. Maybe Chris could recycle some tech seized from Chariot to deal with the issue? Though, I don't recall him appearing in this story.
Chariot... might find bugs have nested in some of his critical systems? At the worst time?
Lisa probably knows all about him, from Coil's records... Might she find it useful to finance, even recruit, him?
Chariot... might find bugs have nested in some of his critical systems? At the worst time?
Lisa probably knows all about him, from Coil's records... Might she find it useful to finance, even recruit, him?
I'm surprised Taylor didn't say something like "Mommy and daddy got a little frisky, and a few weeks later I hatched from an egg, grew up as a naiad, and molted into this".
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Dread smells of pork.
DALuc1f3r
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that was an open invitation to get shit on from a great height
Sounds like someone needs to learn to do an Immelmann.
Firstly I would like to thank the wonderful Mp3.14...etc for the amazing updates to the story. I was away and I missed soooooo much fun!
I finally started skipping all the comments/arguments so that I could get up to date on the story!
As for all the canon vs non-canon conversation... Well, when I look at a painting, I enjoy the entire thing as a work of art. No point in arguing about a brush stroke, color, or if that plant actually grows in that location.
I enjoy the world the artist has presented me. If I don't like it then I look at other art.
Thank you once again, Mp3.14...
I finally started skipping all the comments/arguments so that I could get up to date on the story!
As for all the canon vs non-canon conversation... Well, when I look at a painting, I enjoy the entire thing as a work of art. No point in arguing about a brush stroke, color, or if that plant actually grows in that location.
I enjoy the world the artist has presented me. If I don't like it then I look at other art.
Thank you once again, Mp3.14...
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Because it's how MPpi is writing Dean's power in this story, and it is a reasonable, if less literal, interpretation of how a teenager might well attempt to describe a sense which no other human on earth has ever had, and thus a teenager who might not have a completely functional subject-matter-specific vocabulary to hand or be inclined to develop it. It isn't actually straining anyone's credulity except, apparently, yours, so maybe you could dial down the hostility a bit?
I think it's more an invitation to get shat on at a great height, given that Vicky is airborne...
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I thought we were done with this?
I made an observation and asked reasonable questions. As response people made up things that aren't supported by this story or canon and got increasingly defensive when I challenged their arguments. If you see any hostility here, then that's on you. I have no emotional investment here. I made my point clear both in regards to the issue and the discussion was over. Why do you feel it's necessary to police my actions after everything's done?
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Said shipping exec's will have far too much to worry about elsewhere in their lives rather soon. Sure, there is the soon to exist Federal case against them (which should be a concern for them given that in the US, I've heard, federal cases have a 98%+ success rate), but that will just be (in their minds) some financial penalties they negotiate down and land all the blame on the retired and expired exec's that don't work there anymore (definitely not them, no sir).
No their fate is going to be much worse as soon as their insurers get even the merest hint that the claim for the tanker in Brockton Bay is fraudulent. Their lawyers will be far less forgiving - especially since civil case do not have the same standards of proof as criminal cases. Even worse though is this little tidbit... Those of us who have ever taken out an insurance policy will all recall such fun questions as "Have you ever been denied insurance previously?" or "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offence?" (bonus points if that offence was fraud of course).
This is where their problems are truly going to begin. If their insurers have reason to suspect they have made a fraudulent claim the past, several things will happen. First any claim they have made will be re-investigated extremely closely, which is annoying, but any irregularities will likely come to light (do we think BB is the only time they have been engaged in shady activities?). Their corporate insurance premiums will skyrocket - assuming they can even obtain a policy anyone after this. More directly ships that cannot obtain insurance will be a risk to operate and subjected to much tighter scrutiny from officials - and of course the liability if an uninsured ship breaks something (or has something that breaks internally).
The insurance investigation will quite possibly identify a number of individual executives who were probably responsible. They may find it rather challenging (and very expensive) to get any personal insurance after that and even be functionally unemployable if their culpability is deemed high enough - "I'm sorry company XYZ, you seem to have employed John Doe from ABC shipping and we consider them to be a significant insurance risk, that's why your corporate premiums have tripled...".
It will be hard to avoid as well as the number of insurance underwriters in the world is rather small and they rely on acturial data, not just criminal convictions to make their decision about policy offerings. They will absolutely believe their statistics over a lawyer, no matter how shark-like they are.
And while I'm sure those exec's and owners have friends in insurance (how else did the policy on the tanker in BB get paid out so quickly), that wont really help them when the underwriters work out whats happened. Insurers are infamous for not wanting to make payouts and take fraud extremely seriously.
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Things could get even worse. The insurers will hire Lisa to investigate. Lisa will ask for help from Taylor, whose bugs are currently watching the suspects and listening to their every word (they MUST discuss the failure of their killers).
I think you understand how this will end? Yes, the story will turn into a detective story with chases on wasps and shootouts (in the style of James Bond), theft of documents, honey traps (in every sense), walks with a naked ass under the moon (which directors like so much), drawing the other 11 friends of Lisa into the game and an epic finale with the arrest of the heads of WWM and Leviathan (Lisa proved that they were in cahoots)
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This is not personal insurance though, nor normal business insurance. This is marine insurance. Fraud is the name of the game there. Wouldn't surprise me that the scuttling was part of a money laundering scheme too.
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While it is true that the lower levels of oxygen in the atmosphere are a major contributor to why insects are so small, it is almost certainly not the only one.
Oxygen levels may have played a major role, as I said, but another big contributor to their smaller size is probably due to the fact that global temperatures cooled a great deal since the Triassic (which is when Dragonflies evolved). And without specific adaptations, insects are even more poorly suited to handling cooler temperatures than cold blooded animals. Getting smaller also meant that they could better regulate their own body temperatures.
Then you have other complexities, like competition within an ecological niche as well, which forces a species to either adapt or go extinct.
The reason Federal cases have such a high success rate is much like why Non-Federal cases have a high success rate, most people don't fight the case and try to settle it as quickly and painlessly as possible. Especially as the Federal Government tends to be very thorough in its investigation when building a case. And not fighting it means you can either plea down the penalty, or simply not get the maximum legal penalty invoked, which is much more likely if you decide to fight it.
And they are being very optimistic if they think its going to be merely some financial penalties, as the investigation is going to show a pattern of malfeasance involved here, which even if its only the first time they have been caught on it and nothing else is involved, tends to make the penalties more severe and not just financial. For the Execs, this is going to be painful in the extreme, even if they don't end up with jail time or even a conviction.
For their companies, the insurance bit is going to be the painful part, which the probable new execs are going to have to deal with. And as you have noted, any execs who aren't getting a stay at Club Fed at the taxpayers expense, are going to find that they are likely to quickly find themselves not only out of a job, but likely won't be able to get a new job as they are radioactive to various businesses.
And yeah, most insurers won't touch someone who has provably committed fraud. Of course, the hard part is often proving the fraud with empirical data, which is why maritime insurance is so notorious for fraud. It's not that they don't know that fraud is happening, it is that it can be damn hard to prove that fraud was the case in a specific instance even when they know it was the case (when they weren't complicit in it themselves, that is).
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You are fixated on the economic aspect and insurance, but if the FBI proves the connection of the WWM leadership with a couple of captured killers. And can prove the connection of these killers with the riot in BB and the sinking of the tanker. Even if no one died at that time (which is unlikely), the sinking of the tanker still caused serious economic damage. And as a result, we have internal terrorism and WWM itself can be accused of creating, financing (Lisa has already proven this) and direct leadership of a terrorist group. And this is a completely different responsibility. Of course, I am not an expert on American laws, but in our country, a proven leader of a criminal group bears the same responsibility as the perpetrators, even if he did not personally participate in the attacks.
'Absolutely insane.' Dragonfly's extreme loop-the-loops are unparalleled in nature
After watching that video, I'm placing my bets on Taylor to win in a stunt flying competition against GG.
After watching that video, I'm placing my bets on Taylor to win in a stunt flying competition against GG.
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Kinsfire
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Exactly. It's why people were so confused that the (thankfully) late Orenthal James Simpson won the criminal trial but lost the civil one. Criminal is 'beyond a reasonable doubt', while civil is 'preponderance of the evidence'. A good lawyer in a criminal can take a preponderance of evidence against their client but point out that there is still a possibility that their client was NOT involved and win the case for the client. If it's civil? Unless that lawyer is REALLY good, that client is losing.
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The FBI still has to gather the evidence and the Federal Prosecutors have to look it over and determine whether any terrorism or related charges can be levied. Which, even if they can, may not be levied for various reasons. Especially as terrorism charges would only be adding insult to injury here. We already have fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, criminal conspiracy, financial misconduct, conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to defraud the City of Brockton Bay, conspiracy to defraud the State of... I can't remember which state Brockton Bay is in, and a whole host of other crimes.
The investigation and subsequent trial(s) will be long, to say the least. And said execs are likely to find out that they are radioactive as fuck to others while it is going on. And after, for that matter and if they get acquitted. Because a lot of doors are going to be slammed shut and barred the moment all of this even begins, and they are very unlikely to be reopened afterwards. The execs will soon be getting a lot of negative official attention on them and the authorities are going to keep an eye on them from then on even if they get acquitted of all charges.
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What's even better is that most of the people responsible for the blocking of the bay will no longer be at WWM after all this time, and would be targeted in a personal capacity rather than WWM being the only entity being prosecuted as a result. I'm reasonable sure this is one of those situations wherer there is no statute of limitations in play, so both the current and the former execs are going to get nailed to the wall for all this.
