Just so you know, the numbers required get significantly bigger with every level up, either DW is planning to include missions that give a ton of bond levels or they expect these CEs to take months of effort to get.
 

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Liz Bond Ce is really good anyway

Its practically a Party Wide Moon's Bath (500 HP)

Put that with Maid in Halloween + Gentle Affection and well Heal town go!
 
So new skills in fifteen minutes.

Speaking of which, i'd really like some sort of hard NP dmg down. Around 80~100% damage decrease, so you can actually counter NPs that purge buffs before dealing damage.
 
Invalidates positive buffs(?) for three turns and curses for five.

Meh. It could come in handy, but purge is just better.

Still no reason to use the clown.
 
Oh hey, it's Mephistopheles. I can feel the salt flowing through my veins.
It was only ever going to be Mephistopheles or Medea, and Medea was already good.

She could have been great, and she's leagues more popular than Mephistopheles, but I can't blame them for trying to level the playing field.

Even if they've clearly failed, because Kefka is still pretty shit.
 
I wonder if they will release upgraded forms of the Flag 3* Servants

Yoshitsune (Saber 5)
Mephisto (Avenger 4)
Jekyll (Berserker 4)
Darius (Rider 4)
 
I guess Mephistopheles' new skill is useful against shit like Cu Alters NP boost, where enemy boost himself and uses attack before ordinary purge could remove it?

He is still super bad though.
 
Ugh, why are there no modern incarnations of Hades where he isn't the villain? Like you said, he's one of the most likable out of all of them.

Say what you will about the overall quality of the books, Hades in the book version of children's series Percy Jackson is pretty much the nicest of the big named gods bar Hestia. They do a fake out early on where they make it seem like he is going to be evil but then they get to him and at worst he is just grumpy because, well, he keeps getting shit piled onto him and his brothers keep being asshats.

Like literally the worst thing he does throughout the entire series is question why he should help the Olympians during this big battle when they just keep screwing him over, and curse this one woman in a perfectly understandable fit of absolute fury.
 
Ugh, why are there no modern incarnations of Hades where he isn't the villain? Like you said, he's one of the most likable out of all of them.

"Let him then yieldit is only Hades who is utterly ruthless and unyielding- and hence he is of all gods the one most hateful to mankind."
"Let him yield—Hades, I ween, is not to be soothed, neither overcome, wherefore he is most hated by mortals of all gods."

Two translations of the same line from the Iliad (book nine, verse 158-9).

The funny thing is, despite TVTropes's insistence that Hades was the white sheep of the Greek pantheon... he's never alluded to be a good guy anywhere. The few times he's mentionned in epic poems, it's generally what you would expect from a god of the underworld in ancient mythologies : " you don't want to meet that guy ". Which isn't really surprising, considering that... he's the god of "the end", and most people don't really want to talk or think about the little fact that, one day, they will die. The only myth centered about him [1] is the rape of Persephone, who's kidnapped into the underworld and then kept here thanks to some rule-lawyering from his gardener.

The fact that it's interpreted today by pop-culture as an act of love or a forgivable mistake is somewhat funny. :p

On the other hand, Zeus... is your standard "sky father/thunder-wielding protector of mankind" template. He's the guy that you want as your god when it's time to preserve social customs, to honor contracts and bring justice, to protect your city against plagues and mad kings. He's certainly an adultered, but none of the four "main" epic poems (the Theogony, Iliad, Odyssey and Aeneid) has anything bad to say about him : big Z. is here to help heroes and be a just figure to acknowledge their feats. Even outside of those texts, he's rarely (if ever) depicted in a bad light : wheter he's here to punish Lykaon and Sisyphus, give his foresight to Tiresias as an indemnity for Hera's temper tantrum, etc... He's not a guy that you don't want to meet, except if you're wicked yourself.

... Sorry for the rant, uh. It's a little out of place here. ._.

[1] That we know of. Sadly, our knowledge of greco-romans myths isn't exhaustive. It's just extensive enough that we think we aren't missing that much. For all we know, there was more myths about Hades being an ennemy of mankind... and even more myths about Zeus being a good guy.
 
He did stockholm Persephone in certain versions thought

Course instead of LolBoner its Cupid shooting Hades so he goes kinda Yan Yan but still
 
"Let him then yieldit is only Hades who is utterly ruthless and unyielding- and hence he is of all gods the one most hateful to mankind."
"Let him yield—Hades, I ween, is not to be soothed, neither overcome, wherefore he is most hated by mortals of all gods."

Two translations of the same line from the Iliad (book nine, verse 158-9).

The funny thing is, despite TVTropes's insistence that Hades was the white sheep of the Greek pantheon... he's never alluded to be a good guy anywhere. The few times he's mentionned in epic poems, it's generally what you would expect from a god of the underworld in ancient mythologies : " you don't want to meet that guy ". Which isn't really surprising, considering that... he's the god of "the end", and most people don't really want to talk or think about the little fact that, one day, they will die. The only myth centered about him [1] is the rape of Persephone, who's kidnapped into the underworld and then kept here thanks to some rule-lawyering from his gardener.

The fact that it's interpreted today by pop-culture as an act of love or a forgivable mistake is somewhat funny. :p

On the other hand, Zeus... is your standard "sky father/thunder-wielding protector of mankind" template. He's the guy that you want as your god when it's time to preserve social customs, to honor contracts and bring justice, to protect your city against plagues and mad kings. He's certainly an adultered, but none of the four "main" epic poems (the Theogony, Iliad, Odyssey and Aeneid) has anything bad to say about him : big Z. is here to help heroes and be a just figure to acknowledge their feats. Even outside of those texts, he's rarely (if ever) depicted in a bad light : wheter he's here to punish Lykaon and Sisyphus, give his foresight to Tiresias as an indemnity for Hera's temper tantrum, etc... He's not a guy that you don't want to meet, except if you're wicked yourself.

... Sorry for the rant, uh. It's a little out of place here. ._.

[1] That we know of. Sadly, our knowledge of greco-romans myths isn't exhaustive. It's just extensive enough that we think we aren't missing that much. For all we know, there was more myths about Hades being an ennemy of mankind... and even more myths about Zeus being a good guy.
Thebes...:cry:
 
I think the main reason Hades appears as much like a good guy as he does is that we don't really have a lot of stories featuring him, leading to fewer acts of dickishness possible.

He did stockholm Persephone in certain versions thought
The tale of Minthe does indicate that Persphone either got full Stockholmed or at least liked her position enough to defend it from a threatening naiad.
 
I figure it's just values dissonance. Zeus is authoritative, virile, and passionate. This also flags him Grade A douche by modern standards.

Hades is wealthy, restrained and impartial. This makes him Grade A husbando by modern standards.
 
Zeus was especially bad, but really the only one who wasn't a massive dickhead was Hades.
It says something about your pantheon when this guy is genuinely the most likeable guy on the roster.
Hestia. I know the Goddess of the Hearth is often overlooked, but has she done anything dickish to anyone?

Then again, the totality of things I could say about Hestia sum up to...

1: She's one of the three goddesses of Olympus who swore an oath of virginity.
2: When offerings are given to the gods, Hestia gets a share of each offering.
3: When Dionysus came to Olympus, Hestia gave her seat to him (which may have avoided a fight breaking out).
4: Priapus once tried to rape her in her sleep the night after a Dionysian celebration (only failing because Silenus' donkey started braying and woke her up before he could put it in). Despite this, there's no record that she ever did anything to him in response.

... so there's not that much to talk about.
 
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Finished Rome, now I have enough for my third 10 roll. Don't spook me Kirei.

Huh, that's...extremely good isn't it?
You got 5* and extremely good CE for it.

I'd still get Imaginary Around as you get to use your NP pretty often, and you already have Drake(right?), which will be siphoning good chunk of the stars. Jack can still generate enough for both, especially since Drake can also help out with that.
 
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