Tome of the Orange Sky (Naruto/MGLN)
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Or going Full-On His Dad on Neji and leaving him alive because dying's easy while life is Hard A F
The Hokage promised him that if he put on a good show, he'd get bumped straight past Chunin, so while he doesn't have to, he wants to.
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My question is: when does the orbital friendship bombardment come in to play?
This could be a strategic error.
The Hokage appears to really want to stop being responsible for the paperwork, and Naruto doesn't have the 'no blood, sorry' excuse.
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For that to happen, Nanoha and company would have to both be aware of the situation and on their way. Neither is true. In fact, it's kind of implied that the Tome crashed on the world so long ago that Nanoha is quite possibly long dead, along with all her friends. So sorry, but no orbital friendship bombardment. "blot out the sun" levels of exploding kunai spam, maybe. But no orbital friendship lasers.
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He doesn't do "friendship lasers" though. He does "impossible freeform combinations of elements". The Divine Buster, aka "friendship laser", was a spell created by Nanoha.
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If he's anything like the canon version when it comes to turning enemies into allies and beating the issues out of them, he may well end up developing the Strategic Therapy No Jutsu to deal with entire armies worth of issues and recruit them as new allies...
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While you're likely right that we won't see anything like that, I have to admit that the lack of Nanoha-style magic is by far the most disappointing aspect of this story. The Tome itself is essentially just a deus ex machina to push the story off the rails of canon, and the Knight Armor is nothing more than literal plot armor. Even his Shooter variant got used all of twice and solely as a demonstration at that!
I just wish we had more actual MGLN in this Naruto/MGLN crossover. For a moment I had hopes that the latest chapter was going the direction of turning Minato/Kushina/Kurama into his Wolkenritter, but then it became "nah, they're just another use of the same Naruto stuff we've seen before".
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There is some though. Barrier jackets, bullet spells, and Naruto recently cast Wide Area Search. Oh, and flight. Such spells just aren't front and center because Team Yurei is an infiltration team.
I believe that this fic may be set in the Hybrid Hive continuity, albeit in the distant future. If so, then Nanoha might be very old, but Shard-Based healing could ensure that she is both still alive, and still in her physical prime. Taylor et al might turn up at the end of the story, following up a lead on the few Otsutsuki they haven't either eliminated or rehabilitated…
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I wonder if people will question both Konoha and Orochimaru over the fact that it seems a large number of people in the village are gaining animal traits?
Also do know that Nanoha and others, I think mention was even made of TSAB probably not even existing anymore as well. Bot I wonder about cases such as the Materials. Sure not same personality but there's one who looks like Nanoha...
...Though now I'm reminded of a fic where Nanoha gets her to do her job but the ruse doesn't last long...
Also do know that Nanoha and others, I think mention was even made of TSAB probably not even existing anymore as well. Bot I wonder about cases such as the Materials. Sure not same personality but there's one who looks like Nanoha...
...Though now I'm reminded of a fic where Nanoha gets her to do her job but the ruse doesn't last long...
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Its Naruto, maybe some sort of Therapy Buster?
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As I said, bullet/Shooter spell that has only been a demonstration and barrier jacket/Knight Armor that I can barely remember being used except during the demo with the ANBU and against Orochimaru. From a cinematic perspective, the least impressive spell he has. Flight that has been referred to but rarely seen, I think the only time was during the ANBU testing.
I get that Team Yurei is an infiltration team, I do. But there is no reason we couldn't see spells used during their infiltration missions alongside jutsu. So far we haven't and so the story just doesn't FEEL like a crossover to me. Replace the magic tome with a masterwork of Uzumaki sealing, just like Sarutobi believes, and the story would be almost entirely unchanged. That's why I said the Tome felt like it was little more than a deus ex machina to push the story in a different direction.
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isn't that basically what happened though? sure the base for it was the shadow clone, but ultimately they're mana/chakra constructs projected from the book, which makes them if not basically the same, then adjacent to the Wolkenritter.
my understanding is that every single one of the "basic" Elemental Orbs is that same basic bullet/shooter, just elementally shifted, so it was at least used against Haku multiple times.
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No, because a shadow Clone is a delicate and temporary construct that goes pop if you sneeze at them. The Wolkenritter came out with the Tome of the Night Sky giving them flesh and blood bodies. Once Hayate pulled them out, they were there to stay. Naruto has to keep creating new clones for the Three Stooges.
IIRC, those weren't spells. His parents taught him "fire elements out of your mouth" jutsu for all five bad elements. It was the same time they taught him elemental clones.
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First off, the Tome was damaged and didn't have all that many spells to teach Naruto. That he has gone on to start to invent some based on what the Book remembered is noteworthy, but it's hardly surprising they have to date focused on reverse engineering jutsu instead.
Secondly, any actual spells that are different from jutsu will be distinct and identifiable; exactly what an infiltration specialist doesn't want to be known to do. As such, any new spells he does come up with will be designed to at least look like jutsu as much as possible.
Finally, what spells he does know are either utility, defensive, or of limited combat utility compared to his other options. He can fly, but that does more to draw attention to him in most circumstances then it can help. He has his barriers, which he uses continuously in the field. And he has his bullets, which are no more effective then anything less identifiable that he can do in most circumstances. After all, it's not like he's in a combat zone where hundreds of long range homing projectiles are useful every day, now is he.
I expect the sun will be blotted out by the cloud of homing kunai when the invasion starts...
Secondly, any actual spells that are different from jutsu will be distinct and identifiable; exactly what an infiltration specialist doesn't want to be known to do. As such, any new spells he does come up with will be designed to at least look like jutsu as much as possible.
Finally, what spells he does know are either utility, defensive, or of limited combat utility compared to his other options. He can fly, but that does more to draw attention to him in most circumstances then it can help. He has his barriers, which he uses continuously in the field. And he has his bullets, which are no more effective then anything less identifiable that he can do in most circumstances. After all, it's not like he's in a combat zone where hundreds of long range homing projectiles are useful every day, now is he.
I expect the sun will be blotted out by the cloud of homing kunai when the invasion starts...
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The fact that they are an infiltration team is exactly why throwing around big, flashy, and highly distinctive abilities while on a mission is a bad idea. If it's a covert information gathering mission the goal is for the enemy to never know you were there. If you're throwing around battle magic will nilly, then you probably already failed your mission. Any intel you did get is now suspect. And if you're on a False Flag mission then the goal is to accomplish your goal and blame someone else for it. Using flashy and distinctive abilities means that your enemy knows exactly who to blame, thus negating any chance of your secondary goal of placing the blame on someone else. Thus you want to use abilities which can reasonably be credited to the person or group you're framing.
And remember, Naruto is not a mathmatical genius capable of creating an entire magic system from first principles and "there's evidence suggesting this might be possible using multi-dimensional math" like what's happening in Hybrid Hive. Nor is he good enough at math to modify a spell on the fly to create something entirely new. He struggled to learn each spell the Tome had in it's data base. Those spells are a basic Bullet spell (customized as exploding kunai), flight, barrier jacket, and a set of Search spells. As Minato put it, the basic beginner package was all that was left in the database due to damage. Even the personality imprints turned AI assistants can't modify a spell on the fly. Not only that, but they are limited by their own knowledge and what the Tome possesses. Thus the majority of Naruto's capabilities are sealing and jutsu because that's what his parents and the Nine Tails know. And that's what he has around him he can learn.
If the Tome had landed in the Slayers world setting, it'd have access to the magic of that setting. If it'd landed in the Ranma 1/2 setting, it'd have access to the magic of that setting instead. But no, it landed on Naruto's world, so it's got access to the magic of "ninja arts" of the setting rather then anything else.
In regards to the clone bodies... As I understand it, the difference is as followed:
The tome of Night Sky had living physical people placed in it to form the Tome's guardians. If Nanoha hadn't resisted and pulled her Deus Ex Machina to escape along side the Tome's current owner, Nanoha may have eventually ended up as yet another of the Book of Darkness's bound guardians regardless of if she wanted to or not. The self defense program as I understand it had decided Nanoha was too dangerous to fight, but would make a good guardian.
Minato and company on the other hand are just personality imprints turned into AI assistants. They were chakra/mana constructs to begin with, and when the Tome of Orange Sky absorbed all that chakra/mana, the personalities no longer had a body to call their own. Thus there was no template for the Tome of Orange Sky to use for creating guardians. Now it has a template, but said template is based on shadow clones which are fragile as hell rather then a living body.
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@FaerieKnight79 Slight clarification, it was Fate that got sucked into the tome with Hayate, not Nanoha.
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Really? Everything I've found indicated it was Nanoha. Still, someone was likely being set up to be a new Guardian for the book of darkness.
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that said there are other clone variants that would work better, like the Earth Release: Shadow Clone, the Mud Clone that he learned in Ch19
Earth Release: Shadow Clone
The user creates a shadow clone made of mud. Unlike most clone techniques, after being struck, the clone can reform itself. Mud Release: Mud Doll Rock Clone Technique Sand Clone
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that said there are other clone variants that would work better, like the Earth Release: Shadow Clone, the Mud Clone that he learned in Ch19
it's Shadow Clone that can Reform after taking damageEarth Release: Shadow Clone
The user creates a shadow clone made of mud. Unlike most clone techniques, after being struck, the clone can reform itself. Mud Release: Mud Doll Rock Clone Technique Sand Clone
Yeah, about that...
You'll note that Naruto doesn't have a working Mud Clone technique yet. He has a incomplete mud clone technique that he can't use yet, and will have to experiment to get a working copy of it. Whoever copied down the technique originally had either not had time to copy everything down, or hadn't felt the need to copy everything.
Or, they deliberately wrote down the minimum details they thought necessary for Tenzo to figure out how to adapt the basics of a mud clone into a wood clone, while trying not to give so many details that he gets railroaded down a "dead-end" that only leads to mud clones.