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Tohsaka as an Uchiha Quest (Naruto/FSN)

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GhostKing 666 said:
I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger reaction from the element stuff. Just the leaf cutting exercise takes the average shinobi(usually a chunin at that) six months to manage, and Rin did it, along side the other four in just a few weeks at the age of four, with at best a single year's of experience of using chakra and no actual ninja training at all. And that's without adding in the fact that Rin then went on to do even harder stuff just for the challenge. That's beyond prodigy level bullshit and the fact that Rin did it should be making huge waves both amongst the Uchiha and for Konoha in general.
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They're keeping it hush-hush.

Spoiler: Sasuke will manage to shrink the leaf (Lightning) in less than 48 hours (two days), even if he starts it in the Academy, without the prior experience of turning Prana into an element.

@DarkKing98 : of course it does. Why wouldn't it?
 
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GhostKing 666 said:
I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger reaction from the element stuff. Just the leaf cutting exercise takes the average shinobi(usually a chunin at that) six months to manage, and Rin did it, along side the other four in just a few weeks at the age of four, with at best a single year's of experience of using chakra and no actual ninja training at all. And that's without adding in the fact that Rin then went on to do even harder stuff just for the challenge. That's beyond prodigy level bullshit and the fact that Rin did it should be making huge waves both amongst the Uchiha and for Konoha in general.
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Yeah, it probably should.

Kind of like Itachi.

The Uchiha made a big deal of Itachi.

EDIT: Our growth rate is actually a bit of a problem if we want to do anything with... anyone, really. We're on track to be appointed the jonin rank by 12.

Even if we hide our stuff at the academy, when we get assigned to a team of genin it's going to be obvious within 10 minutes how much we've been sandbagging at the academy. Teaming up with fresh genin would just stunt our teammates' growth when we wind up carrying them.

Ah well, maybe we could try to become the jonin instructor for our peers? That would be good for a few laughs. We could send Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura back to the academy when they fail to understand teamwork!
 
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Remember that right now, she doesn't know any taijutsu or actual ninjutsu, and has only her natural resistance to genjutsu.
 
AoMythology said:
They're keeping it hush-hush.

Spoiler: Sasuke will manage to shrink the leaf (Lightning) in less than 48 hours (two days), even if he starts it in the Academy, without the prior experience of turning Prana into an element.
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Your underestimating how difficult Chakra Nature transformation is. Even otl Sasuke, a prodigy genin with years of experience making Fire Chakra was only able to learn the Chidori inside a single month because he had an awakened Sharingan, which let him outright cheat the process by seeing what Kakashi did when making the jutsu and copying him.

Without an active Bloodline Limit to make the training easy, turning normal chakra into elemental chakra is the type of thing that takes months of practice, even for prodigies(Shisui learning a new element in only two months would be about the norm for a prodigy without a bloodline limit). There's a reason ninja's don't normally learn it till they hit Chunin.

Patch said:
Yeah, it probably should.

Kind of like Itachi.

The Uchiha made a big deal of Itachi.
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Itachi nothing, what little four year old Rin did was enough to make Madera gap in open WTF. Especially as Rin doesn't have an active Sharingan to make learning none-bloodline jutsu a virtual snap.
 
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GhostKing 666 said:
Itachi nothing, what little four year old Rin did was enough to make Madera gap in open WTF. Especially as Rin doesn't have an active Sharingan to make learning none-bloodline jutsu a virtual snap.
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Considering Madara's catching Tailed Beasts like Pokemon by the end of it, that's impressive.
Maybe we should consider snagging the Ten Tails out from under him? :V
 
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SpeckofStardust said:
Our body will be the first one under the cutting board after the Massacre and we will be killed because they wont let us be anything but perfect loyalty due to already having a spy in Ambu black ops.
We will have no chance to do anything.
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...what!?

No seriously, what the fuck? The hell are you talking about?

Well regardless, we will be loyal. Leaf and Danzo need to have no worries about that.
 
DarkKing98 said:
And that's bad why exactly? It shows our strength and will let us survive the Fourth Shinobi World War.
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It's a problem because being too good at this stuff can break the immersion, and close us off from interacting with our peers.

SpeckofStardust said:
Our body will be the first one under the cutting board after the Massacre and we will be killed because they wont let us be anything but perfect loyalty due to already having a spy in Ambu black ops.
We will have no chance to do anything.
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That too.

GhostKing 666 said:
Your underestimating how difficult Chakra Nature transformation is. Even otl Sasuke, a prodigy genin with years of experience making Fire Chakra was only able to learn the Chidori inside a single month because he had an awakened Sharingan, which let him outright cheat the process by seeing what Kakashi did when making the jutsu and copying him.

Without an active Bloodline Limit to make the training easy, turning normal chakra into elemental chakra is the type of thing that takes months of practice, even for prodigies(Shisui learning a new element in only two months would be about the norm for a prodigy without a bloodline limit). There's a reason ninja's don't normally learn it till they hit Chunin.


Itachi nothing, what little four year old Rin did was enough to make Madera gap in open WTF. Especially as Rin doesn't have an active Sharingan to make learning none-bloodline jutsu a virtual snap.
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If Rin can manipulate elemental chakra at 4, and you extrapolate that development as she ages, she should be able to pull off chunin level ninjitsu, like, within a year. Jonin level in 2 years. Kage level by the time the chunin exams in canon start, and only because there isn't a good way to measure ninja levels above kage level. She'd have a good shot of beating Gara even if she went into that fight blind.

Hence my concern about our development being too accelerated, and the point I brought up earlier about timeskips.

At the rate she's going, she won't have to worry about getting killed by Itachi because she might be better than him. Which is kind of silly, and part of the reason I think maybe we should slow down.
 
SpeckofStardust said:
Our body will be the first one under the cutting board after the Massacre and we will be killed because they wont let us be anything but perfect loyalty due to already having a spy in Ambu black ops.
We will have no chance to do anything.
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:confused: What?
Loyalty aside I very much doubt any QM would run a quest with an unavoidable dead end, we might have a chance to die if we play absurdly stupidly but beyond that, the fuck are you on about

Edit: blagh, just reread a dozen times, misunderstood, either way we won't really be in any different a position than Sasuke was.
 
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DarkKing98 said:
...what!?

No seriously, what the fuck? The hell are you talking about?

Well regardless, we will be loyal. Leaf and Danzo need to have no worries about that.
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Just like our older bother was loyal to the leaf?
Your right we'll be killed long before the massacre.
Or perhaps will be targeted by Snake man cause we fucking far better host then Sasuke?
Or perhpase Tobi will want our eyes
Or maybe black zetsu will target us when where out on a mission.
 
GhostKing 666 said:
Your underestimating how difficult Chakra Nature transformation is. Even otl Sasuke, a prodigy genin with years of experience making Fire Chakra was only able to learn the Chidori inside a single month because he had an awakened Sharingan, which let him outright cheat the process by seeing what Kakashi did when making the jutsu and copying him.

Without an active Bloodline Limit to make the training easy, turning normal chakra into elemental chakra is the type of thing that takes months of practice, even for prodigies(Shisui learning a new element in only two months would be about the norm for a prodigy without a bloodline limit). There's a reason ninja's don't normally learn it till they hit Chunin.


Itachi nothing, what little four year old Rin did was enough to make Madera gap in open WTF. Especially as Rin doesn't have an active Sharingan to make learning none-bloodline jutsu a virtual snap.
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Sasuke didn't have the whole month IIRC, he was out of it for nearly half of it. And the Chidori is an A-rank ninjutsu, it's not Nature Transformation of the first level (leaf something). Not to mention Sasuke spent much of that time simply getting his speed up to par.

Shisui's Lightning element was his third element, with all that entails.
 
SpeckofStardust said:
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Just like our older bother was loyal to the leaf?
Your right we'll be killed long before the massacre.
Or perhaps will be targeted by Snake man cause we fucking far better host then Sasuke?
Or perhpase Tobi will want our eyes
Or maybe black zetsu will target us when where out on a mission.
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See, those are all reasons to be Kage level ninja by the time we would have graduated the academy.

I approve of any of those reasons for why we should go all out with the training like Rin Tohsaka would.

I don't think we should try to hide it from the people we know though. That would be an insult to the academy instructors' intelligence as educators, when sniffing out people with incredible skills in hiding their incredible skills would be part of the job description.

On a related note, I'm all for taking up the crystal sword project from Rin's past life, but via ninja arts and chakra. Chakra has proven more flexible than mana in a lot of ways, and I think applying our past lives insights into that project could make for a good signature skill. If nothing else, the project gives Rin a direction to apply her talents, instead of directionless training and education for the sake of training and education.

I'm thinking we'll need sealing and elemental ninjitsu for that project? Maybe? Sealing seems highly relevant, since the crystal sword was built to access alternate dimensions, like the pocket dimensions of seals.
 
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SpeckofStardust said:
Just like our older bother was loyal to the leaf?
Your right we'll be killed long before the massacre.
Or perhaps will be targeted by Snake man cause we fucking far better host then Sasuke?
Or perhpase Tobi will want our eyes
Or maybe black zetsu will target us when where out on a mission.
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Those are expected risks. Make your point, or are you fearmongering without reason?
Our Sharingan are nothing special compared to others, so why us?
Why would black zetsu even know us yet?
Even in the future, we would have to make specific actions to get on his radar.
 
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SpeckofStardust said:
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Just like our older bother was loyal to the leaf?
Your right we'll be killed long before the massacre.
Or perhaps will be targeted by Snake man cause we fucking far better host then Sasuke?
Or perhpase Tobi will want our eyes
Or maybe black zetsu will target us when where out on a mission.
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I doubt QM will let us be killed due to Danzo paranoia. Trust me when I say that I know for a fact we will never consider betraying Leaf IC.
Then we are targeted by Orochimaru. He won't kill us.
Why would Obito want our completely unawakened eyes?
Why would we be targeted by Black Zetsu?

Maybe you misunderstand something here. A Genin can kill us. Our highest ranks is only theory and our Chakra. Yes we pulled an insanely impressive feat, but we don't have any offensive or defensive power.
 
[X] Begin work on reinventing the Jewel Sword using ninja arts. Invest in sealing, whatever other skills would be relevant to its construction.

Seems like a thing Rin would do, and it's a project we can use to focus our training. If nothing else, we'll get all the skills we learn in our attempts to build the thing.
 
Patch said:
On a related note, I'm all for taking up the crystal sword project, but via ninja arts and chakra. Chakra has proven more flexible than mana in a lot of ways, and I think applying our past lives insights into that project could make for a good signature skill.
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If we were to do this, Tsubame Gaeshi sounds like a good milestone to start with, and wouldn't be too out of place compared to other jutsu.

Did Rin even know about what Assassin could do?
 
I got the hint, guys - I'm changing the time it took her to something somewhat less impressive (still very quick, though).
 
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