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Tohsaka as an Uchiha Quest (Naruto/FSN)

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Nachtigall said:
Personally, that's the only part of your vote I don't quite understand. Orochimaru asks that question so that he'll know how best to manipulate us should he choose our body as his future host.
Additionally, answering takes time during which Jiraiya will get further away.

Or is your reasoning that giving him part of what he wants makes it more likely that he'll allow us to escape his grasp for now? I doubt that it'll work, but it could be considered a valid tactic...
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That is in fact what I'm going for. Every little bit helps:
- It's not exactly a well-kept secret. Just taking in Karin already demonstrates that we care about family, and even without any evidence, that the massacre affected us like that is easy to guess. That we're seeking power partly to protect them, partly to take revenge on the one-eyed man also isn't a hard guess. Only thing that is is that we're seeking power partly for our own curiosity.
- I don't think our motivations are suitable to easily let him manipulate us, short of taking a hostage. Even the latter however doesn't net him the brainwashed suicidally-devoted minions that he favors most, it mostly only makes us fake obedience as far as we must while hating him all the more for it. Not to say that he wouldn't do it anyway, but he wouldn't prefer it as much. Or he could kill our clan, but that just makes us focus our revenge on him. I don't think anyone can successfully argue that the Uchiha clan is not the best-suited for teaching an Uchiha how to get strong, so that's out too. Our curiosity is really the only halfway good lever that we have, and also might catch his interest, but we're not so unbalanced that it completely rules us.
- He doesn't understand or value bonds, and considers anyone who relies on them to be a pathetic weakling not worth his time.

So in combination, assuming I've read everyone involved right, I'm hoping for a combination of 'not worth his time to try and control', and 'just interesting and amusing enough to not kill'.
Admittedly, it might just have the result of making him pissed that we're squandering our potential, but our recent archievements speak for themselves I'd say. Plus, you know, that S-Rank diplomacy has to be good for something.
It might be argued that we should be trying to mislead away from our curiosity, but honestly I think he'll just see through the fact that we're hiding something instantly. Few things catch his interest as much as a mystery. It's not worth the risk.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so I hope you don't mind if I copy these for my plan.

That said, I'd suggest to slightly reorder the sub-votes:
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Gnarker said:
@Patch, @Nachtigall, I expanded Subtle Explosion in light of recent information.

@AoMythology, I think our character sheet is incomplete. It doesn't list what Genjutsu we know, and I'm not sure if not having any Elemental Mastery Earth and Water despite knowing Jutsu of those elements is intentional. Especially the latter would be important since I'd like to add a section which of our elements we should prioritize.




Problem with that is that if he needs to pull out Rashoumon or Manda, it's gotten to the point where he's taking us seriously, and if Jiraya isn't already there at that point we've already lost. Better to alert him as early as possible and otherwise play for time.
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You haven't discovered all your Elemental Masteries yet. As for genjutsu, I will take care of it.

Edit: added:
Tomb of the Living genjutsu: E-
Hell Viewing genjutsu: F
False Surroundings genjutsu: E

to Character Sheet.

Might add Elemental Masteries too later anyway. Edit2: Added elemental masteries
Water: C+
Earth: C

(The fight with Danzo increased your masteries a lot, especially Earth and Wind.)
 
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I'm sorry I am double-posting, but might I recommend asking Kakashi and Jiraiya for advice on how and what to improve, @Gnarker?

When you get the chance to vote again, obviously. They're bound to have some ideas.
 
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Vote is closed!

Subtle Explosion wins!

By the way, I increased the False Surroundings rank in the Sheet, because Shisui taught Rin a genjutsu in an early chapter, which I decided now is that one
False Surroundings genjutsu: E -> D+
Adhoc vote count started by AoMythology on Sep 18, 2019 at 2:22 PM, finished with 67 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Plan Subtle Explosion
    -[X]Humor him and reply truthfully
    -[X]Run away
    --[X]Take Karin with you
    --[X] While it pains you to leave Kakashi behind, staying would just force him to defend you and fleeing with him would give Orochimaru the chance to pick you off one by one. Additionally, he is your superior and he gave you an order.
    -[X] Cover your retreat with the biggest and loudest explosion you think you can safely make (in terms of chakra exhaustion and drawing Orochimaru's interest). Try to alert Jiraya with it without tipping Orochimaru off.
    -[X] If you can contact Shisui's spirit, now would be a really good time if he could assist you with his legendary skill at the Body Flicker.
    -[X] Try to find Jiraya.
    -[X] Assume that while Orochimaru himself will fight Kakashi, he'll send clones after you.
    --[X] From what you know about him he's like an amoral magus who would just try harder to catch you for your secrets. Not showing those of our abilities that would most catch his interest is preferred, but you'll do it if the sole other alternative is death or permanent harm of anyone on our side.
    --[X] Likely attention-grabbing skills, from least to most important: Seamless Jutsu Fusion, Average One, and Magecraft. That said, we may not get around showing Average One since he knows all five elements too, and we might have difficulty defending against that without using Type Advantage.
    --[X] Conserving energy is not a high priority. Take a chakra pill if you need to, but you only need to last long enough for Jiraya to join the fight and for Kakashi to take over protecting you and Karin. Keep your Sharingan active, and unless his clones are entirely undetectable, do the same for your sensor skills.
    --[X] Clones by themselves are worthless since he'll immediately see through the ruse and dismiss them as threats, but you might be able to exploit that with the Clone Great Explosion jutsu.
    --[X] Our highest combat skill is Genjutsu, but we're not at the point of casting them without hand seals. It's worth a try, but don't expect to catch him in one for very long, especially not if he sees it coming. Instead, try to keep the two of you away from him, and keep him busy with thrown weapons and ranged jutsu.
    [X] Plan Retreat towards Jiraiya
    -[X]Run away
    --[X]Take Karin with you
    --[X] While it pains you to leave Kakashi behind, staying would just force him to defend you and fleeing with him would give Orochimaru the chance to pick you off one by one. Additionally, he is your superior and he gave you an order.
    -[X] Release a massive smoke cloud (Hiding in Smoke jutsu), seemingly to cover your retreat but actually to alert Jiraiya. Try not to cover Kakashi, the chakra might hinder his sharingan-enhanced sight.
    -[X] If you can contact Shisui's spirit, now would be a really good time if he could assist you with his legendary skill at the Body Flicker.
    -[X] Try to find Jiraya.
    -[X] Assume that while Orochimaru himself will fight Kakashi, he'll send clones after you.
    --[X] From what you know about him he's like an amoral magus who would just try harder to catch you for your secrets. Not showing those of our abilities that would most catch his interest is preferred, but you'll do it if the sole other alternative is death or permanent harm of anyone on our side.
    --[X] Likely attention-grabbing skills, from least to most important: Seamless Jutsu Fusion, Average One, and Magecraft. That said, we may not get around showing Average One since he knows all five elements too, and we might have difficulty defending against that without using Type Advantage.
    --[X] Conserving energy is not a high priority. Take a chakra pill if you need to, but you only need to last long enough for Jiraya to join the fight and for Kakashi to take over protecting you and Karin. Keep your Sharingan active, and unless his clones are entirely undetectable, do the same for your sensor skills.
    --[X] Clones by themselves are worthless since he'll immediately see through the ruse and dismiss them as threats, but you might be able to exploit that with the Clone Great Explosion jutsu.
    --[X] Our highest combat skill is Genjutsu, but we're not at the point of casting them without hand seals. It's worth a try, but don't expect to catch him in one for very long, especially not if he sees it coming. Instead, try to keep the two of you away from him, and keep him busy with thrown weapons and ranged jutsu.
    [X]Humor him and reply truthfully
    [X]Humor him and reply truthfully
    -[X]Run away
    --[X]Take Karin with you
    [X] Plan Retreat towards Jiraiya
    -[X]Run away
    --[X]Take Karin with you
    --[X] While it pains you to leave Kakashi behind, staying would just force him to defend you and fleeing with him would give Orochimaru the chance to pick you off one by one. Additionally, he is your superior and he gave you an order.
    -[X] Release a massive smoke cloud (Hiding in Smoke jutsu), seemingly to cover your retreat but actually to alert Jiraiya.
    -[X] If you can contact Shisui's spirit, now would be a really good time if he could assist you with his legendary skill at the Body Flicker.
    -[X] Assume that while Orochimaru himself will fight Kakashi, he'll send clones after you.
    -[X] Don't use magecraft or seamless jutsu fusion, from what you know about him he's like an amoral magus who would just try harder to catch you for your secrets.
    -[X] In a fight, unless his clones are entirely undetectable, keep your sensor skills active.
    -[X] Clones by themselves are worthless since he'll immediately see through the ruse and dismiss them as threats, but you might be able to exploit that with the Clone Great Explosion jutsu.
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Unexpected Opportunities (Semi-canon Orochimaru Omake by Nachtigall)
  • Sidestory
    • Here I am, planning to pick up an Uzumaki girl nobody is going to miss, and what do I find? That idiot of a former teammate is in the vicinity, and brings along the only two children in Konoha with Uzumaki blood of all things. He didn't even bother to disguise them and seems to think that his mere presence would scare away any threats. For a supposed spymaster, his arrogance as well as lack of forethought and caution is simply atrocious.

    From my sources in Konoha, the half-Uchiha girl is quite the prodigy and has already awakened her Sharingan during the recent massacre of her clan. A shame that all those precious eyes were incinerated, but at least I managed to obtain a single pair by having them swapped with fakes (long-since prepared for just such an occasion) before the bodies were incinerated at the funeral. Oh the secrets they hold... if it weren't for the chance to get another potent bloodline to study, I would still be in my lab, advancing my understanding of those eyes.

    But enough of that. It is trivial to deduce why Jiraiya is here. Tsunade is still wasting away her life in the border regions of the Land of Fire, too weak to face her fears yet too sentimental to leave entirely. With Hiruzen no longer having the trust of the clan council and Jiraiya himself being unsuitable for any sort of responsibility, it seems that the Slug Princess is going to be offered the hat that I would have deserved.

    It has been some time since I had the chance to manipulate someone who proved a challenge. Preying on her deepest desires to get her to betray the very village that wants her to lead them... Yes, I can already taste the delicious irony. But then again, should I even bother? That idiot Jiraiya could never convince her to return to Konoha, and seeing him fail and despair over having lost both of his teammates never ceases to amuse me. Oh well, a decision for later,
    when I have my new specimen and have a more detailed view of the situation.

    Oh? The clone tracking Jiraiya's group just dismissed itself. From what it just heard, the reports of Uchiha Rin's skills were, if anything, understated. To detect her clan member's chakra at several kilometers distance... truly, those two bloodlines are incredible tools.

    So she wants to find that girl I have my eyes on, Karin Uzumaki? I could just whisk her away and be on my way, but this situation offers so many opportunities... no, it is only right if I see for myself how far she has come, especially since she is one of the more promising potential hosts I have my eyes on. I shall simply let the meeting play out and only appear once they try to leave. And that idiot is even careless enough to split up, leaving only Hatake to defend the Uchiha prodigy - basically serving her to me on a silver platter.

    It is tempting to just inject her with my cursed seal so that her body is primed for my eventual takeover, but... I don't have a clear image of her character yet. Reliance on the seal's granted power would cause the stagnation of her growth (and with it her worth as a host). Besides, if I later choose another Uchiha's body it would be suspicious to have marked them both.


    I already wrote for hours and could probably spend hours more on this, but unless I want to completely ignore my need for sleep, I'll have to stop here. I might continue on this tomorrow...

    Edit: Fixed a typo.
     
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    Untapped Rewards
  • Informational
    • @Nachtigall : what should I call this Omake in the Threadmarks?

    As for the rewards:
    Marked as Semi-canon
    A full rank up to Luck (temporary)

    (I had forgotten to add a previous Omake (on SB) by someone else, so I added that (++) to the Sheet, too.)

    Edit: Not quite canon because:
    The bodies were incinerated almost immediately after the massacre; the funeral was done with the urns being buried, but the ashes had been in the urns for a while. I might make it so that a spy managed to obtain a pair of eyes by swapping them immediately after the massacre with the fakes on his/her own initiative.

    The Omake is very nearly canon, so I am adding another reward:
    Your Dexterity&Flexibility stat will rise significantly more the next two times you train it, directly or indirectly.
    (Training that can affect that stat: shurikenjutsu, Housenka Tsumabeni (mainly the Dexterity side); taijutsu, calisthenics (mainly Flexibility) etc.)
     
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    Story 20 (Fighting a Snake)
  • Threadmarks
    • [W] Plan Subtle Explosion
    -[W]Humor him and reply truthfully
    -[W] Run away
    --[W] Take Karin with you
    --[W] While it pains you to leave Kakashi behind, staying would just force him to defend you and fleeing with him would give Orochimaru the chance to pick you off one by one. Additionally, he is your superior and he gave you an order.
    -[W] Cover your retreat with the biggest and loudest explosion you think you can safely make (in terms of chakra exhaustion and drawing Orochimaru's interest). Try to alert Jiraya with it without tipping Orochimaru off.
    -[W] If you can contact Shisui's spirit, now would be a really good time if he could assist you with his legendary skill at the Body Flicker.
    -[W] Try to find Jiraya.
    -[W] Assume that while Orochimaru himself will fight Kakashi, he'll send clones after you.
    --[W] From what you know about him he's like an amoral magus who would just try harder to catch you for your secrets. Not showing those of our abilities that would most catch his interest is preferred, but you'll do it if the sole other alternative is death or permanent harm of anyone on our side.
    --[W] Likely attention-grabbing skills, from least to most important: Seamless Jutsu Fusion, Average One, and Magecraft. That said, we may not get around showing Average One since he knows all five elements too, and we might have difficulty defending against that without using Type Advantage.
    --[W] Conserving energy is not a high priority. Take a chakra pill if you need to, but you only need to last long enough for Jiraya to join the fight and for Kakashi to take over protecting you and Karin. Keep your Sharingan active, and unless his clones are entirely undetectable, do the same for your sensor skills.
    --[W] Clones by themselves are worthless since he'll immediately see through the ruse and dismiss them as threats, but you might be able to exploit that with the Clone Great Explosion jutsu.
    --[W] Our highest combat skill is Genjutsu, but we're not at the point of casting them without hand seals. It's worth a try, but don't expect to catch him in one for very long, especially not if he sees it coming. Instead, try to keep the two of you away from him, and keep him busy with thrown weapons and ranged jutsu.

    "Tell me, girls. What are your dreams? What motivates you in life? Is it revenge?" Orochimaru says, looking you and Karin up and down, disgusting you.

    He is looking at you and Karin like you are specimens in a lab, not in a sexual way, but this is still very creepy. It makes you shiver.

    Kakashi shouts, "run! I'll hold him off!"

    You say, "wait, Kakashi-san. Are we certain he's here to fight?" A false contemplative expression on your face.

    You carefully and subtly maneuver to have Karin right behind you and signal her to be ready to get on your back.

    "What?" Kakashi says, looking at you shocked.

    Orochimaru laughs, then says, "so what is your answer, Uchiha Rin?"

    "My motivations... that's difficult. My most important goal is to protect those I hold dear; I also wish to understand the mysteries of the universe," you say.

    "Oh?" Orochimaru says, looking at you intrigued, an eyebrow raised. "We are not that different after all, you and I. I am a man of curiosity and science."

    ...Can a person get more "cliche villain' in his words?

    "Don't tell me," you say, "you have been misunderstood because people don't get that science needs 'sacrifices'...."

    He is just like the usual magus back in the other world. Not to mention Danzo and his tendency to sacrifice everyone but himself.

    You can see it in the way his snake-like eyes light up when you say that. Well, fuck it. You give Karin the signal and immediately make three Shadow Clones; you see Kakashi tense again from the corner of the eye.

    Orochimaru seems to have realized that negotiations have broken down. He licks his lips with- ugh, that tongue! He says, "oh well - seeing your skills first-hand is good, too. Entertain me, Uchiha Rin."

    His Chakra shines through for a moment, and it's absolutely terrifying; it is excellently controlled, very powerful and a disgusting, sickly purple that makes you want to shudder, then vomit; you somehow keep your composure.

    You slap down a high-yield explosive tag on two of the three clones and signal Kakashi to stay back - far, far back. The other one attacks head-on, knowing your plan. It hugs Orochimaru for long enough to let the other clones latch on to him too.

    The Snake Sannin dispels the first clone with his tongue, which gives you and the other two clones back her Chakra, but the other two have already activated their tags; you release a Wind ninjutsu while one of your remaining clones spits out some water to produce steam and smoke, and the other a Fire jutsu... while preparing to explode in the Clone Great Explosion.

    The moment you get the Wind jutsu out, you are pushed away by it, along with Karin who is hanging onto your back; with the momentum, you push off a tree (while reinforcing your body with Chakra), using the Body Flicker with a hand-seal.

    'Nii-chan,' you think in your mind, 'if you can help from where you are, now is the time.'

    Luck check! B- -> A++ Luck means that your Body Flicker goes up from B+ to A rank permanently and by a (+) temporarily to A+. Your Clone Great Explosion has also been successfully modified to produce more noise.

    Clone Great Explosion: D -> C-

    You no longer have any temporary Luck boosters (for now)

    A truly enormous explosion somewhere behind you and the uncomfortable memory of dying by exploding yourself twice over tell you that your window of time is running out, because your Shadow Clones could tell that there was at least one more Orochimaru around - he wasn't even rattled!

    You follow the path you took earlier, but navigating with far more competence thanks to your sensory skills -including the Sharingan- all being active and very quickly thanks to multiple consecutive Body Flickers. The pressure is still on, though, and your breath is coming out as panting.

    Your blood goes cold. You first feel, then see an Orochimaru waiting for you outside the forest. 'Did he station a clone here, expecting me to pass through this way? Or did his clone catch up with me?' You think, but ultimately, it doesn't matter. You drop two certain different scrolls in a way Orochimaru won't see what they are.

    You have expected clones, so once this Orochimaru copy makes the motion for a Bird seal, you make a Tiger seal, faking a Fire jutsu- only to substitute yourself with the Wind Sealing Method scroll you dropped earlier in such a way as to activate it in 'mirror' mode immediately.

    The snake-man's clone is dispelled by its own ninjutsu; you can almost taste the awe Karin feels toward you. 'It actually worked...?' You think.

    Unfortunately, you hear clapping; another Orochimaru is blocking your way towards Jiraiya; by this point, you've realized that Orochimaru knows about his pervy former teammate being around. At least Kakashi is near again, having dispelled the Orochimaru clones he was dealing with.

    You throw multiple shuriken at this Orochimaru, but he dodges them easily

    "I must admit," the new Orochimaru says while weaving around the shuriken without strain, "I did not expect you to get that idiot Jiraiya's attention quite so quickly, Uchiha Rin."

    The man then makes a Snake hand-seal, ironically. You prepare to use your Earth Sealing Method, but the guy simply stomps on the ground and makes it shake.

    Shit! Karin has nearly slipped off your back! She didn't fall with the Body Flicker earlier, but the quake is unexpected, even with all your sensing abilities on. Fortunately, Kakashi is coming to the rescue.

    Orochimaru keeps the Snake seal, making an earthen sword, but you can see Kakashi making three seals out of the corner of your eye, his hand screeching, being covered in super-dense Lightning Release Chakra.

    Raikiri has been learned at G
    Chidori has been learned at G+

    After seeing Kakashi's jutsu, you've been inspired! Hell Stab / Raiton Chakra Mode 1/? -> 3/?

    You make a few hand-seals and cast a genjutsu to immobilize Orochimaru as best you can, but you can tell it didn't work. You use the Kawarimi no jutsu on a stone with one hand-seal now; Orochimaru (likely the real deal, not a clone) throws the earth-made sword at you point-first, making Kakashi hesitate for a moment, but you've already predicted the snake man's intentions.

    Unfortunately, the sword doesn't go towards your previous position, so Kakashi has to save you anyway... damn it! Karin's grip turns painful while Kakashi hits the Earth construct with his Lightning-enhanced hand.

    Orochimaru sinks into the ground, making you feel like the world is tilting - vertigo, or so you think; it is some kind of teleportation, not Earth Release - you can tell. Fortunately, you knowing the Second Magic helps you with the craziness of seeing and otherwise sensing such a jutsu.

    Once you are certain that Jiraiya is arriving (with two unknown creatures on his shoulders) and Orochimaru is nowhere near, you let yourself collapse. Your legs are really sore after that Chakra Reinforcement and those Body Flickers back-to-back.

    Karin squeaks, having been forced to drop down.

    You have made Orochimaru retreat!

    Ninjutsu stat has gone up! C+ -> B (2/8)
    Strength stat has gone up! D (1/3) -> D+ (0/4)
    Speed stat has gone up! B- (1/6) -> B- (3/6)
    Chakra stat has gone up! B- (0/5) -> B- (1/5)
    Intelligence stat has gone up! A+++ (0/16) -> A+++ (4/16)
    Chakra Control stat has gone up! B (4/8) -> B+ (0/9)

    Ninshu has gone up! F -> E-
    Wind Elemental Mastery has gone up! B- -> B
    Fire Elemental Mastery has gone up! B- -> B
    Earth Elemental Mastery has gone up! C -> C+
    Lightning Elemental Mastery has gone up thanks to seeing Kakashi's jutsu! C -> C+
    Space-time Jutsu Affinity has been found at C- ! It has gone up to C+
    Reduced Incantations&Hand-seals has gone up! B -> A (1/2)
    (You can now use Gandr without an Aria!
    You can now use Great Fireball with a single Tiger seal near-flawlessly!
    You can now use Shinkuuha (Vacuum Wave) with three hand-seals rather than four!
    You can now use Kawarimi without hand-seals, though slowly!
    You can now use Body Flicker near-flawlessly with a single one-handed hand-seal and passably without one)

    Shadow Clone has gone up! E -> D+
    Clone Great Explosion has gone up! C- -> C+
    Body Flicker has gone up! A -> A++ (1/3)
    Kawarimi (Body Replacement / Substitution) has gone up! C -> B
    (You can now use Kawarimi without hand-seals relatively quickly!
    You can now use Body Flicker with a single one-handed seal flawlessly; it doesn't need more seals at all. You can also use it without seals relatively well!)

    Chakra Reinforcement has been discovered at E+ ! It has gone up! E+ -> D
    Omni-Science has gone up! E -> D-
    Mind's Eye of the Kagura has gone up! A++ (0/5) -> A++ (2/5)
    Eye of the Mind (False) has gone up! D (1/3) -> D+ (0/3)
    Projectile Throwing has gone up! B- -> B
    Sealing has gone up! A -> A+ (0/3)
    (You can now use the Finger Carving Seal - all times to make a seal are halved;
    you can now imbue any weapon, with varying success (preferably a newly forged one), with two minor (or one of moderate importance) properties and/or concept(s) and/or more durability;
    You can now use the Five Elements Seal and Five Elements Unseal with two hand-seals each
    You can now make strong Barriers-in-a-scroll
    You can now make high-yield Raiton shock tags
    You can now use Japan's kanji in near-perfect conjunction with the Elemental Nations' kanji to make a seal more potent and faster - all times to make a seal are halved further; Chakra cost is reduced significantly)

    True Magic: Second has gone up! E -> D- ! You can now turn one attack into two through Dimensional Refraction! You can now teleport to places you've been to, but really slowly! (The teleportation is instantaneous; actually activating it is what takes long until you level up True Magic.)

    You sit at the edge of the forest, trembling after coming down from your adrenaline high. Karin is also trembling, touching your shoulder. 'That's it?' You think. "Well, that- that was anticlimactic," you say out loud, your voice cracking.

    "Be glad it was like that, little lady," Jiraiya says from behind you, the two creatures gone, "you could have died or worse -much worse- if Orochimaru had been given half an opportunity. Apparently, when your life is at risk, you take a level or two in badass - usual Uzumaki and Uchiha fare."

    "So, Uzumaki and Uchiha tend to be like Shounen manga protagonists?" You say, having a hard time believing what's coming out of your mouth.

    Jiraiya laughs, then says, "something like that."

    Kakashi gets near you, squats to look you in the eyes and says, "for a moment there, I thought you would disobey my order."

    "I was tempted," you say, "I really didn't like leaving you behind, but I knew you weren't the target, so I used my brain and made as much ruckus as I could to bring Jiraiya-sama while running away."

    "I see," Kakashi says, "your plan was really well-thought-out. Your positions of power are well-deserved."

    Well, it's not like you look up to the former stalker, so you are not flattered or anything!

    You take care of your minor injuries, disinfecting cuts and scratches and taking care of your muscle strain by wrapping parts of your legs. Karin is hanging onto you again, so it's a bit difficult and extra painful.

    "What now?" You think out loud.

    "Well," Jiraiya says, "Tsunade will probably hear of the explosion, so we need to go find her soon. Can you run, little lady?"

    You think it over; your pride dictates that you say you can, but with you being a medic-nin in training, practicality wins out. You say, "...no - I can't."

    "We will have to carry you," Jiraiya says.

    Kakashi is just coming down from his recovery, though. Speaking of which-

    "Kakashi-san," you say, "it's been four months since we caught Danzo. How come it took you so long to recover?" Having been a bit out of it mentally when Kakashi told you about his Chakra Exhaustion.

    Kakashi laughs nervously. He says, "that's a funny story, kid, but it might take too long-"

    "He hates hospitals, so he escaped too early and ended up running himself into the ground again," Jiraiya says, making you frown.

    "That's... really stupid," you say, "then, let me examine you, Kakashi-san - did you get any injuries from Orochimaru's clones? Did you use any jutsu?"

    "That's not necessary, kid. We have a job to-" Kakashi says, but you won't take 'no' for an answer.

    "The faster you go still, the faster we can go back to searching for Tsunade-sama," you tell him, glaring at him.

    Kakashi goes still as a rock, and you check him for injuries, physical strain and Chakra exhaustion the mundane way, because you haven't learned a diagnostics jutsu yet. Of course, you also sneak a Structural Analysis his way, but he doesn't have to know that.

    You patch up the man's wounds with added difficulty but are getting used to Karin's weight, nearly force-feeding Kakashi a bit of orange juice to give him more energy. You've found a few more problems with your Structural Analysis, but you have no way of resolving them right now.

    Hatake Kakashi rep up! C- -> B-
    Jiraiya rep up! D- -> C

    First Aid has gone up! B -> A

    Discovered Structural Analysis at A- ! It has gone up; A- -> A

    For some reason, Jiraiya is looking at you in- nostalgia? You aren't certain. You have the time to ask the two men and Karin a few more questions. You say-

    (Up to four (4) options)

    []Where is Naruto? Is he safe, Jiraiya-sama?
    []What do you two recommend that I learn first in my training?
    []Used to death? What did you mean, Karin?
    []What was that Lightning jutsu, Kakashi-san?
    []Write-in

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    Exploding Orochimaru to call for Jiraiya was truly a stroke of genius - so much so, that the fight ended up anticlimactic.

    Also, True Magic CAN be used without Kaguya intervening... as long as you don't try to affect the entire world, such as by traveling back in time.
     
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    • [/]Where is Naruto? Is he safe, Jiraiya-sama?
    Definitively this.
    Also, what the hell happened to Karin ? she's nowhere to be seen in the fight's "epilogue".
    Also²: i think we should ask Kakashi is we can Shari-copy his Chakra Reinforcement as ours clearly is lacking.
     
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    Karin's still shell-shocked.

    By the way, this time, you are allowed four questions with the time you have, and there is no one else coming out of the woodworks even if you delay a bit.

    Edit: Chakra Reinforcement is something best learned the hard way. It also doesn't have hand-seals, so even Rin's Sharingan, which specializes in copying, isn't going to help much.

    Edit2: Omni-Science does help with seal-less jutsu, though.
     
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    Oh right, didn't notice the "pick four":
    [x] Where is Naruto? Is he safe, Jiraiya-sama?
    [x] What were those two creatures on your shoulders, Jiraiya-sama ?
    [x] How are you doing Karin ? Do you feel well enough to come with us ? Naruto is an Uzumaki too by the way.
    [x] Kakashi-san, considering what i did to my legs i think we can all agree my Chakra Reinforcement is ... lacking. Would you allow me to try and copy yours ?

    Asking Jiraiya about the "two unknown creatures on his shoulders" seems like a good idea. It should be a gateway to summoning, and maybe even sage mode.
    Asking Karin about why she'd be "used to death" seem unappropriated right now.
    I remember the Sharingan being able to see the chakra inside a person (for example seeing if someone is affected by a genjutsu) so it should be able to copy chakra reinforcement even though it's internal. At the very least it should help...

    Question: how do people feel about changing the last part of kakashi's question to "Would you allow me to try and copy yours like I did with that Lightning jutsu ? " ?
    It feels reasonable, but also kind of gaming the system by kind of asking two questions at the same time.
     
    Chidori/Raikiri are below the F- mark, so you will need his help to learn them further without injury (barring abuse of the Shadow Clone jutsu, which (the abuse, Naruto-style I mean; the Shadow Clone IS something you can use) you don't quite have the reserves for yet).

    So, you can either get his help with Chakra Reinforcement, or with learning the Chidori with one question. Not both.

    If you ask that way, Kakashi will say something about him not minding you copying his jutsu, but he won't help you with learning it.
     
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    Then I'll stick with the single focus on Chakra Reinforcement. Chidori is nice but getting CR up seems a more generally useful thing.
     
    AoMythology said:
    'Nii-chan,' you think in your mind, 'if you can help from where you are, now is the time.'

    Luck check! B- -> A++ Luck means that your Body Flicker goes up from B+ to A rank permanently and by a (+) temporarily to A+.
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    Thanks, Shisui. You're the best!

    AoMythology said:
    You first feel, then see an Orochimaru waiting for you outside the forest. 'Did he station a clone here, expecting me to pass through this way?
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    We should have expected that to happen... oh well, we got out of this without a curse seal or loosing Karin, so I'm happy.

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    You can now teleport to places you've been to, but really slowly! (The teleportation is instantaneous; actually activating it is what takes long until you level up True Magic.)
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    Wow. Who needs the Hiraishin or Hiraijin if you have the Kaleidoscope?

    Then again, Rin's Sharingan gives time-space jutsu a Sky-high bonus, so she might want to learn them anyhow.

    Actually, @AoMythology, Rin has seen Orochimaru's teleportation jutsu. Can she use that as an excuse for now being able to teleport, i.e. would others be able to notice that what we're doing is totally different?

    And can we actually reverse-engineer his jutsu now that we've seen it?

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    [/]Where is Naruto? Is he safe, Jiraiya-sama?
    Definitively this.
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    Why? If Jiraiya isn't worried, I'd assume Naruto is somewhere safe.

    Ayashi said:
    I remember the Sharingan being able to see the chakra inside a person (for example seeing if someone is affected by a genjutsu)
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    I'm pretty sure that's reserved to the Byakugan. Noticing whether your genjutsu doesn't detect your opponent's chakra, it actually works through your own chakra probe inside your opponent's brain which relies on the eye-to-eye connection the Sharingan uses as a vector to apply said genjutsu.

    AoMythology said:
    So, you can either get his help with Chakra Reinforcement, or with learning the Chidori with one question. Not both.
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    Learning the Chidori should become much easier once we've learned the Rasengan, so I'd pass on that for now.


    [x] What were those two creatures on your shoulders, Jiraiya-sama ?
    [x] How are you doing Karin ? Do you feel well enough to come with us ? Naruto is an Uzumaki too by the way.
    [X] My Sharingan recorded that teleportation ability Orochimaru used to escape and I feel like I could replicate it with some effort. Where could I get training with time-space jutsu?
    [X] What do you two recommend that I learn first in my training?

    Is my third question acceptable?
     
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    Nachtigall said:
    Actually, @AoMythology, Rin has seen Orochimaru's teleportation jutsu. Can she use that as an excuse for now being able to teleport, i.e. would others be able to notice that what we're doing is totally different?

    And can we actually reverse-engineer his jutsu now that we've seen it?
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    I forgot about Omni-Science and Mind's Eye of the Kagura - so, yes, you have a chance to manage to reverse engineer it, same with Chakra Reinforcement (except the latter is easier).

    As for passing the True Magic Teleportation as a Space-Time jutsu, it may or may not be possible.

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    Is my third question acceptable?
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    Your question is acceptable, yes. Whether you can find someone/something to help you with Space-Time jutsu... well, there's always the Uchiha Ninja Library, even if you don't find someone else or they refuse.
     
    [x] Where is Naruto? Is he safe, Jiraiya-sama?
    [x] What were those two creatures on your shoulders, Jiraiya-sama ?
    [x] How are you doing Karin ? Do you feel well enough to come with us ? Naruto is an Uzumaki too by the way.
    [x] Kakashi-san, considering what i did to my legs i think we can all agree my Chakra Reinforcement is ... lacking. Would you allow me to try and copy yours ?
     
    [x]Ayashi

    Honestly this oruchimaru encounter kinda killed the tension for me. It dosen't really feel like he was as much of a threat as he should have been.
     
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    [x]Ayashi

    Honestly this oruchimaru encounter kinda killed the tension for me. It dosen't really feel like he was as much of a threat as he should have been.
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    He didn't feel like confronting Jiraiya and Kakashi without Kabuto (or Guren, or Kimimaro), I suppose. Or are you referring to the fight in general?
     
    [x] What were those two creatures on your shoulders, Jiraiya-sama?
    [x] How are you doing Karin? Do you feel well enough to come with us? Naruto is an Uzumaki too by the way.
    [x] Jiraiya-sama, would you allow me to attempt copying your Chakra Reinforcement technique to enhance my own? I want to be better prepared for any future ambush.
    [x] What was that lightning jutsu, Kakashi-san?


    I don't think we should be asking to copy Kakashi's Chakra Reinforcement. The poor man's still exhausted.

    Also! By asking Jiraiya, we can naturally ask him if he knows any enhancement techniques for long hair (later)!

    Asking Kakashi about the Raikiri outright is basically us admitting that we copied it, which is only polite. It also gives us a hint towards shape transformation.

    Lastly, we ask Karen if she's coping well enough to come with us. Not that she has much of a choice at this point, but we are nevertheless responsible for her well-being so this is right and proper.
     
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