flap little butterflies, flap.

Kagura is aware of us. well damn...:o
Hokage now aware of Danzo's treachery. Even if he does not manage to pin anything on him, which is doubtful, he'll be watched much more. Should make it difficult to pull off anything else.:rage:
Shisui sadly still dead. But has left us his eyes with Itachi. (I hope we never get Mangekyo). And has left us a Seal with information somewhere.
We can tell the clan why Shisui "killed himself". Should help Itachi's standing and might get some people to reconsider the Coup.

[]Tell her about what Shisui said
+As a reminder, he said that if his loyalty to the village and clan ever clashed in a serious way, he's sooner kill himself than choose one
I want to deliver that sentence with an undertone of "what the fuck has the clan been planning?"
 
Well, regardless, this ain't stopping the rebellion. Sure, may dissuade some but stopping it from that single statement?

Hell no.
 
Well, regardless, this ain't stopping the rebellion. Sure, may dissuade some but stopping it from that single statement?

Hell no.
If it dissuades some, there might be a few more Uchihas alive after everything is said and done.

Changes from canon:
Hokage now aware of Danzo's treachery. Likely under watch. May not be able to order Itachi to kill them all without Hokage intervening.

If we tell Grandma the reason for Shisui's "suicide" Itachi will be under less suspicion and may not be shut out from the Clan meetings. Which means the Hokage keeps getting reports on how the sentiment is going.
The exact reason will dissuade some Uchiha and cause renewed discussion. There are many ways it can go from there.

If the Hokage manages to pin something on Danzo he also gains a scapegoat for much trouble against the Uchiha. "Ofc it was all this traitors fault. From now on everything will be better."
 
Short Danzo Omake (QM's Canon Omake)
Short Omake: Danzo

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Damn that Shisui - damn him to hell!

Not only did he ruin your plan to get his eyes - he most likely warned Sarutobi, too!

Oh well, you still have your teammate Kagami's eye. You showed your respect to him by not using it, and it has an inferior form of Kotoamatsukami besides, but needs must.

Now, to keep Sarutobi from exposing you...! It should be a breeze with Kotoamatsukami, and considering you are the best Wind user in the Leaf now that Biwako is dead, that is saying a lot.


Muahahaha!
Danzo pretty much now has the same ability as in canon. Shisui nerfed his other eye using Kotoamatsukami before Danzo could stop him, so he might as well have Kagami's inferior form of Kotoamatsukami in canon, too. That's my head-canon.
 
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Short Omake: Danzo

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Damn that Shisui - damn him to hell!

Not only did he ruin your plan to get his eyes - he most likely warned Sarutobi, too!

Oh well, you still have your teammate's eye. You showed your respect to him by not using it, and it has an inferior form of Kotoamatsukami besides, but needs must.

Now, to keep Sarutobi from exposing you...! It should be a breeze with Kotoamatsukami, and considering you are the best Wind user in the Leaf now that Biwako is dead, that is saying a lot.


Muahahaha!
Danzo pretty much now has the same ability as in canon. Shisui nerfed his other eye using Kotoamatsukami before Danzo could stop him, so he might as well have the inferior form of Kotoamatsukami in canon, too. That's my head-canon.
Wait, didn't Itachi promise to give Shisui's eyes to Rin, not to Danzo? How could he get the Kotoamatsukami then?
 
How big is the Uchiha clan anyway?

If there's only like, 30 people, you would need pretty much all of them to be involved for rebellion to even make sense.

To be honest, the Uchiha massacre makes the most sense, to me, if it happened because there were not a lot of Uchihas in the first place. It explains how they were able to keep their plans as far on the down low as they did if there were members from every household involved, but there were only around 20 homes in the compound to begin with.
 
It seems like you're forcing things stay on the canon rails for no good reason tbh.

I never said he manages to convince Itachi, even with Kotoamatsukami, so he might do the massacre himself.

After all, now Itachi knows from the Hokage about him being about to destroy Danzo, and when he fails to deliver... well, Itachi is a smart guy. He'll suspect foul play.
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I think you guys are missing the big picture here: That all our family members are conspiring to take down the Leaf village.

Stopping the massacre would only create a revolt.
 
To me, it feels like 'oh look. Naruto's canon.' Because Danzo is a mad genius. Derailing a single thing doesn't stop everything. So he didn't get Koto. So what? You honestly think he wouldn't have had a back up plan?

It's more that the backup plan is just the exact same plan, replacing the canon vital piece - Shisui's eye - with a Deus Ex Machina. A different backup plan we weren't prepared for would have been interesting - this is just a really weird bit of railroading, in that the GM set things up to veer off from canon and them hammered things back into place.

I never said he manages to convince Itachi, even with Kotoamatsukami, so he might do the massacre himself.

After all, now Itachi knows from the Hokage about him being about to destroy Danzo, and when he fails to deliver... well, Itachi is a smart guy. He'll suspect foul play.
I dunno man, it just seems like a really weird decision. Run your quest how you want, I guess?
 
It's more that the backup plan is just the exact same plan, replacing the canon vital piece - Shisui's eye - with a Deus Ex Machina. A different backup plan we weren't prepared for would have been interesting - this is just a really weird bit of railroading, in that the GM set things up to veer off from canon and them hammered things back into place.


I dunno man, it just seems like a really weird decision. Run your quest how you want, I guess?

I like to torment my main character, so the Uchiha not dying just wasn't going to happen.

Edit: oh, and things will get even worse before they get better. >:-D I always wondered why Danzo knew about Kotoamatsukami in canon, and my explanation was that he knew because Kagami had it too.
 
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It seems like you're forcing things stay on the canon rails for no good reason tbh.
That is true, it si your decision as a QM but Expect many people, myself included, to feel cheated by your decission.

Especially since one of the biggest thing about the MS in canon is that the techiques are completly different from one user to another, Sasuke did not posses Tsukuyomi, and Obito never had Amateratsu, it goes pretty much againt all that it was established in canon that there are another pair of MS with the same Bullshit power as Kotoamatsukami

Because I'm evil....

And because Danzo doesn't feel anything as sacred anymore, so he uses Kagami's inferior eye, which is still the equivalent of his canon capabilities... because, again, I'm evil.
Why?

Kagami only appears in a couple of panels, it was not confirmed that he has MS, or what the powers of his hypotetical MS were, neither that Danzo got his hands on the Sharingan. This is a Deus Ex Machina (or asspull if you prefer a more profane term) of a similar size as it was the appearance of Kaguya, or the Izanami.

But as I said it is your quest do what you want, but you should expect quite a few backlash if you pull that up.
 
I always wondered why Danzo knew about Kotoamatsukami in canon, and my explanation was that he knew because Kagami had it too. They were teammates; Danzo had every chance to get his eye.

On the other hand, Kagami might have had Kotoamatsukami in only one eye, and something else in the other. It's not as bullshit as 'Sasuke, protect Konoha', which the un-nerfed Shisui Kotoamatsukami was capable of, either.

Itachi and Sasuke both had Amaterasu, possibly because they are closely related.
 
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That is true, it si your decision as a QM but Expect many people, myself included, to feel cheated by your decission.

Especially since one of the biggest thing about the MS in canon is that the techiques are completly different from one user to another, Sasuke did not posses Tsukuyomi, and Obito never had Amateratsu, it goes pretty much againt all that it was established in canon that there are another pair of MS with the same Bullshit power as Kotoamatsukami


Why?

Kagami only appears in a couple of panels, it was not confirmed that he has MS, or what the powers of his hypotetical MS were, neither that Danzo got his hands on the Sharingan. This is a Deus Ex Machina (or asspull if you prefer a more profane term) of a similar size as it was the appearance of Kaguya, or the Izanami.

But as I said it is your quest do what you want, but you should expect quite a few backlash if you pull that up.
Itachi and Sasuke both had Amaterasu. Sasuke's second eye let him control the flames, while Itachi's second eye gave him Tsukiyomi. It is possible for different Uchiha to share a MS power, and is most certainly not impossible.
 
I always wondered why Danzo knew about Kotoamatsukami in canon, and my explanation was that he knew because Kagami had it too. They were teammates; Danzo had every chance to get his eye.

On the other hand, Kagami might have had Kotoamatsukami in only one eye, and something else in the other.

The reason he know about it is fairly mundane, as a counselor of the Hokage he was he was in the same room as him when he decided to use Shisui MS to prevent a the Coup.

Either that or she knew about it because Shisiu had already uses it in the last war, with the Third Mizukage IIRC.
I never said he manages to convince Itachi, even with Kotoamatsukami, so he might do the massacre himself.

After all, now Itachi knows from the Hokage about him being about to destroy Danzo, and when he fails to deliver... well, Itachi is a smart guy. He'll suspect foul play.
Do you realize that if Danzo decides to do the deed himself, there is no chance in Hell that Fugaku is not going to use the MS that he had to fight him do you?

And after seeng the stats of Korin, I don´t expect her to go down easily
 
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Korin will fight Obito. >;-D

As for Fugaku, he may or may not have the (filler) MS.
 
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