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Roaming_Guardian said:
There has yet to be a stage shown where beaming anywhere other than one transporter pad to another transporter pad is necessary, despite it seeming like a logical stage of the technologies development.
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I know that over in stargate there are multiple levels of transporter and that's one of them, primarily used by the Goa'uld.
 
I could see another intermediate step. Where you beam down a semi-portable transporter pad using a lower resolution transport, then beam people down to the porta-pad. Or even using a specialized shuttlecraft.

Questions of practicality and cost of course. The shuttle would only be useful when you need to move more than said shuttle can carry.
 
bobnik said:
If I remember correctly, the Caretaker was looking for reproductive compatibility. Maybe remote scanning yielded a definite hard nope, or perhaps they revealed he wouldn't go through puberty in time to matter. I would be willing to believe the Caretaker has sensors advanced enough to scan Zephyr - they can scan stuff in detail enough to detect viable targets across the galaxy, after all.

Meanwhile, all the Ocampans wince as a spike of RAGE gets driven into their nascent psionics.
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It could also be, Zephyr was just assumed for "some blurry mass in the engine room, definitely not a sentient."
 
Well. Someone's about to learn why you don't steal from dragons xD
Admittedly I was hoping we wouldn't have janeway in charge this time, but hopefully the starfleet intelligence agent/void dragon/master engineer can keep some of her… more questionable impulses under control given I think they're the same rank?
Edit: also I'm hoping that Zephyr makes good use of automation over the federation's silly insistence of doing everything with unaugmented humans. Like, trapped far from home is the perfect time for automated resource extraction and processing drones and as much AI as you can build into your systems.
 
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Roaming_Guardian said:
despite it seeming like a logical stage of the technologies development.
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Presumably, that would be because the technology at that stage would be regulated to either emplacements like cities, or dedicated Ground to Orbit systems as anywhere else would simply have no real reason for such a delicate, impractical, and complex system that does not provide any major advantages over conventional shipping methods you can bring with you everywhere.
 
Honestly Janeway being utterly new to being captain is likely so Hiver has a good way to write her fucking up early on as she gets used to a position she was not ready for.

Entirely reasonably so, even.
 
Hiver said:
"No, lock down the magnetic constrictors, that'll buy us time," I said, "Hunt, get down there with a micro welder!"

"On it," she answered and pulled out a tool pack.

"Sir, if we lock down the magnetic constrictors at this pressure, we may not be able to reinitiate the dilithium alignment," Carey protested.

I growled, "Yes, and if we don't, I'm sure our free floating electrons will be very happy not to have to deal with the issue. Lock it down, we deal with potential problems after the definite ones."

He nodded and got to work.
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This part. I hate this. Loathe it in fact. This is not a debate in a classroom! This is an engine in the process of blowing up! You do not argue with your lead engineer when anti-matter is about to go pop-goes-the-weasel in your face!

I'm going to assume that all those engineering courses were good for something, including working while sleepwalking with head injuries to get the job done or all you are going to die right this minute!



Other than that, I liked the chapter just fine. Was expecting more non-cannon derailment at this point, but that's okay.
 
Nitronorm5688 said:
This part. I hate this. Loathe it in fact. This is not a debate in a classroom! This is an engine in the process of blowing up! You do not argue with your lead engineer when anti-matter is about to go pop-goes-the-weasel in your face!

I'm going to assume that all those engineering courses were good for something, including working while sleepwalking with head injuries to get the job done or all you are going to die right this minute!



Other than that, I liked the chapter just fine. Was expecting more non-cannon derailment at this point, but that's okay.
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I read it as a junior engineer checking that his boss had factored in a possible negative consequence of his decision, not that he was debating it
 
It occurs to me that there's potentially a couple interesting butterfly ripples coming up, compared to the "canon" Voyager.

For one thing... if this Voyager will also be combining crews with its Maquis quarry, then "Lieutenant-Commander Janeway" might have to make more significant concessions to Chakotay about shipboard norms if she wants to retain her position as acting Captain. At least going by OU material, Chakotay was a Lieutenant-Commander himself before resigning his commission; in other words, even if you don't take into account his Maquis experience, she doesn't actually outrank him.

For another, possibly more frivolous example... the Intrepid class has that fancy atmosphere-safe runabout that never got to come out to play during the canonical series. In a world without transporters, I feel like it'll get more screentime. :grin:
 
DaLintyGuy said:
Which, given they just had a disaster in the Badlands subspace anomaly, "can we turn it on again afterward" is a legitimate concern.
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Yeah, there are circumstances where "we are slightly more likely to explode" is an acceptable tradeoff for "we have power" and they definitely don't know that this isn't one of those.

Though nobody actually proposed a plan that leaned more that way than what Zephyr did, I think? The other option raised was ejecting the core.
 
I'm now imagining an AU where Zephyr gets brought along and does actually turn out to be somehow biologically compatible with the caretaker species but turns banjo guy down because
1. Ew no we just met.
2. Do you have any idea how much paperwork producing offspring while on duty creates?
3. Aren't you, like, married?
 
"State the nature of the medical emergency"
"Everyone but me fucking vanished and I need enough space meth to stay awake long enough to ensure the ship doesn't explode"
 
Kadath said:
I'm now imagining an AU where Zephyr gets brought along and does actually turn out to be somehow biologically compatible with the caretaker species but turns banjo guy down because
1. Ew no we just met.
2. Do you have any idea how much paperwork producing offspring while on duty creates?
3. Aren't you, like, married?
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So far as I can tell banjo guy (love that name) was way past asking permission.
Winged One said:
"State the nature of the medical emergency"
"Everyone but me fucking vanished and I need enough space meth to stay awake long enough to ensure the ship doesn't explode"
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He secretes his own space meth, remember? Oh dear. Now the Kazon will want to render him down for drugs.
 
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