The Voyage Without

After reading this, I'm starting to wonder if Seska was misplaced by the order for gross incompetence or stupidity.
Order officer: Should we bring her back and have a nice trial and execution?
Their superior: No, leave her looking like a Bijorin, she will be more useful when she is eventually caught and everyone will assume we are all that incompetent.
Seriously, Seska, you have first hand access to cutting edge federation technology and information, fucking be patient and you will have a TROVE when you get home. Cardasians, the not dumb ones, always struck me as predisposed to patience in their plans, we just never got to really see long term things from them with Star Trek being allergic to meta plot.
To be fair, she's in a absolutely shit spot. Her fake identity cannot hold up to a simple medical tricorder examination, which is fine when you're on a ragtag crew of plucky rebels working with next to nothing. Not so much in the actual military, with regular scheduled checkups.

She now has no handler, no back up, and no extraction plan, and she'll be lucky to die quickly when she gets found out. And it's a when, not a if, because you can't keep rolling the dice for 70 years and never slip up once.

So she's panicking, and overreaching. But what else is she suppose to do, spend the next 70 years going she never gets as much as a booboo? Spending a year gathering Intel and waiting for the right time to act is patient, considering.
 
I seem to recall an episode of ds9 where the human environmental settings were all off just enough from what a cardassian would prefer that prolonged exposure to them counted as torture and activated garak's implants. Maybe seska has that to look forward to as well.
 
There is one other thing I'm curious about, presumably Seska knows about the Cube(TM) has she told the Kazon about it yet or has she withheld that information in the hopes that the origin allows transportation home to be feasible. If she's told the Kazon it's a race the the Cube(TM) and the Kazoj may break whatever is located in the system if it's just ruins. If it's a active facility however, I don't think the kazon will be able to get in.
 
After reading this, I'm starting to wonder if Seska was misplaced by the order for gross incompetence or stupidity.
Order officer: Should we bring her back and have a nice trial and execution?
Their superior: No, leave her looking like a Bijorin, she will be more useful when she is eventually caught and everyone will assume we are all that incompetent.
Seriously, Seska, you have first hand access to cutting edge federation technology and information, fucking be patient and you will have a TROVE when you get home. Cardasians, the not dumb ones, always struck me as predisposed to patience in their plans, we just never got to really see long term things from them with Star Trek being allergic to meta plot.
There was no way she'd manage to keep up the masquerade for 5 years let alone 70.

To be fair, she's in a absolutely shit spot. Her fake identity cannot hold up to a simple medical tricorder examination, which is fine when you're on a ragtag crew of plucky rebels working with next to nothing. Not so much in the actual military, with regular scheduled checkups.

She now has no handler, no back up, and no extraction plan, and she'll be lucky to die quickly when she gets found out. And it's a when, not a if, because you can't keep rolling the dice for 70 years and never slip up once.

So she's panicking, and overreaching. But what else is she suppose to do, spend the next 70 years going she never gets as much as a booboo? Spending a year gathering Intel and waiting for the right time to act is patient, considering.
*nods* and since in canon she reverted to looking Cardassian rather than Bajoran after escaping to the Kazon, then there's presumably some treatment she has to keep up to avoid the reversion. Whether she ran out of said treatment or just stopped bothering to use it after she joined the Kazons is a question. Depending on the nature of the treatment, she may have been on a timer before she'd run out of it and been revealed anyways.

There is one other thing I'm curious about, presumably Seska knows about the Cube(TM) has she told the Kazon about it yet or has she withheld that information in the hopes that the origin allows transportation home to be feasible. If she's told the Kazon it's a race the the Cube(TM) and the Kazoj may break whatever is located in the system if it's just ruins. If it's a active facility however, I don't think the kazon will be able to get in.
not really. it was spotted while the 2 ships were split up, the source system is still a couple years ahead of them so there's no need to mention it to the Val Jean's crew yet, even if she stumbled across the report and the location, it was damn near invisible to sensors, and there was no apparent value to it. Why would the Kazon care? (even assuming they can find it) Worst case scenario, the Kazon find it, trigger a boobytrap and Seska gets blamed for it.
 
Depending on the nature of the treatment, she may have been on a timer before she'd run out of it and been revealed anyways.


not really. it was spotted while the 2 ships were split up, the source system is still a couple years ahead of them so there's no need to mention it to the Val Jean's crew yet, even if she stumbled across the report and the location, it was damn near invisible to sensors, and there was no apparent value to it. Why would the Kazon care? (even assuming they can find it) Worst case scenario, the Kazon find it, trigger a boobytrap and Seska gets blamed for it.

1. I assumed that the treatment didn't need medicine to prevent reversion rather she needed to take something to cause the reversion (and there's no evidence either way from what I remember
And
2. Seska has had time to go through the logs since being seperated and likely has made notes on the cube and the course correction
And
3. The Kazon care due to the potential for the acquisition of advanced technologies to help prop themselves up.
 
1. I assumed that the treatment didn't need medicine to prevent reversion rather she needed to take something to cause the reversion (and there's no evidence either way from what I remember
that's an option I hadn't considered. that instead of being on a timer, Seska deliberately triggered the reversion to Cardassian. And a fully plausible idea as well. With no need to remain disguised, I can see her deciding she wants her real face back.

2. Seska has had time to go through the logs since being seperated and likely has made notes on the cube and the course correction
And
3. The Kazon care due to the potential for the acquisition of advanced technologies to help prop themselves up.
ok, so she's read the data Voyager has on it. Which tells her little since Voyager didn't actually touch it. It's really old, very hard to detect, and from a pretty distant star system. No idea if it has any advanced tech, for all Voyager could tell it may just be inert matter, or if the Voyager Officers' theories are correct about it being similar tech to the orb they found in the museum, then it may be inert unless Zephyr comes into contact with it.

sending the data to the Kazon has the issue of a) she knows Zephyr/Janeway/Tuvok suspect a spy and are keeping an eye out, meaning it harder to send a message, b) even sending the Kazon the correct coordinates might not work because even Voyager almost ran into it before they spotted it, and c) if they do find it, there's 3 possible results (most to least likely in my opinion); It does nothing and they can't even scratch it, they trigger a defence mechanism, or they actually gain some tech (which they likely won't understand or be able to use). The first 2 results are likely to get the Kazon annoyed with Seska (wild goose chase or trap, the Kazon are likely to blame her) and the third, she'd get minimal benefit from.
 
I seem to recall an episode of ds9 where the human environmental settings were all off just enough from what a cardassian would prefer that prolonged exposure to them counted as torture and activated garak's implants. Maybe seska has that to look forward to as well.
Nah, Garak hated being on ds9 for a lot of reasons so he used the implant himself.
 
that's an option I hadn't considered. that instead of being on a timer, Seska deliberately triggered the reversion to Cardassian. And a fully plausible idea as well. With no need to remain disguised, I can see her deciding she wants her real face back.
We don't know if Seska has got any nasty self-destructs built-in, but, if she has, they are probably set-up to be missed by basic medical exams. She may need to return to being Cardassian, or suicide (preferably ashing her body), past a certain point. It depends just how thorough the people who were running her were.

Why is she not being smart? Is it possible her agent programming is forcing this? Maybe she was given the choice, 'Become an agent or be executed'? Deep programmed? We don't know.

I find it difficult to believe that she can't pass standard Federation medical tests, particularly using portable equipment, that she'd get in being treated for minor injuries. Deep scanning, to detect potential long-term/hidden issues, in a full-blown modern starship medical bay, by an unbrideable medic, yeah, I think we can see why she'd want to avoid these.

Something we can be pretty sure about?

A certain dragon doesn't want her to cause him any more trouble, doesn't care about how... unfortunate her situation is, and, if he gets his way, her continued existence depends on how useful (and trustworthy) she might be.
 
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Seriously, Seska, you have first hand access to cutting edge federation technology and information, fucking be patient and you will have a TROVE when you get home.
Her information will have been common knowledge to the Obsidian Order 55 years before she gets home. A lot of it will be based on a ship class that's reaching end-of-life.
 
Her information will have been common knowledge to the Obsidian Order 55 years before she gets home. A lot of it will be based on a ship class that's reaching end-of-life.
Three part response to this...
First, If I remember right, constitution class refit is still in service during the dominion war (could be wrong) and that is something like a hundred forty or fifty years after it was first launched, so I doubt federation 'as stupid as they are about reality' just declassifies things like core ship systems straight outright.
Second, lets discount everything actually part of Voyager, it's computer core WILL have a large amount of heavily classified and encrypted stores of information that federation would probably never want released, she has decades where she is on the inside for ship upgrades and security procedures, other then Tuvok everyone else are morons about Maquis members being around and part of the crew, wait a couple years and she would be completely trusted.
Third, how about any information and technology from the delta quadrant? Yea, even the most innocuous stuff would take years of federation analysis scrubbing before it was released. She would be canonized by the order JUST for passing over a limited flight log and report.
Cardasians are pretty much all about the family and the state (both being aspects of the other) so she would probably set up a personal record, a 'incase of my death' will that might hide some files she could keep adding to, and federation are too trusting to properly vet anything like that so she could be sure at least some data got passed on.
 
Seska's smartest move would be to be upfront about being Cardassian and go right to Janeway as soon as she could. "Hello, you had an embedded spy, I was the embedded spy for Cardassia. I would like to formally apply for asylum."

But nope, she has to go do spy shit.

I want to see a story where there is a SI into Seska.
 
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Seska's smartest move would be to be upfront about being Cardassian and go right to Janeway as soon as she could. "Hello, you had an embedded spy, I was the embedded spy for Cardassia. I would like to formally apply for asylum."

But nope, she has to go do spy shit.
Well... If the Cardasians believe half the stories about Starfleet, in particularly the 'Enterprise', she'd almost certainly have waited until after the Caretaker's array had blown-up. And, it was clear there wasn't a convenient wormhole leading straight back to the Alpha quadrant.

After that? Yeah. She would've been smart to ask Janeway for asylum. She might have even offered her assistance in finding any other embedded spies on board!

This is, of course, assuming any embedded programming she has allowed her. I'm inclined to think she had at least some programming. Maybe hidden from her in her Bajoran cultural bits?
 
First, If I remember right, constitution class refit is still in service during the dominion war (could be wrong)

Considering there were at least two *Daedalus* class (ships built before The Federation officially formed, they had big spheres instead of saucers) still in active service as of the 2380s, it wouldn't surprise me if Starfleet was running Constitution IIs during the 2370s.
 
Considering there were at least two *Daedalus* class (ships built before The Federation officially formed, they had big spheres instead of saucers) still in active service as of the 2380s, it wouldn't surprise me if Starfleet was running Constitution IIs during the 2370s.
No reason not to keep using a perfectly good spaceframe. Even if they're just being used for training and moving people and supplies around the core worlds.
 
Considering there were at least two *Daedalus* class (ships built before The Federation officially formed, they had big spheres instead of saucers) still in active service as of the 2380s, it wouldn't surprise me if Starfleet was running Constitution IIs during the 2370s.
I mean, they were still using Excelsior-class ships in the 2370s, and that class was something like 80-85 years old at that point.
 
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I waited, watching the readings of the comm diagnostic in my visor.

"Sir?"

I turned my head, spotting a crewman. I'd seen him around, painfully young with short red hair. What the hell was his name? He's in security.

"Yes?"

"Message for you?" he asked in a questioning tone, holding up a rolled piece of paper. It was actually sealed with a red wax seal.

I felt a surge of amusement. It seemed Janeway had embraced the ridiculousness and just rolled with it.

"Thank you," I said and took it between two claws. Putting it on the floor, I broke the seal and unrolled it. It only had a single word written on it.

'Quarters'.

Well, seemed clear enough to me. Picking it up with my muzzle, I dropped it in the closest replicator to be turned back to its spare carbon atoms, put Carey in charge before leaving engineering for the captain's quarters.

I had never seen the Captain's quarters before.

Okay, I had, I had toured the entire ship as she was getting finished, but I had not seen it since The Captain took it over, and I had no idea what Janeway had done to it since she took it after him.

Reaching the door, I touched the button next to it with the back of my claw.

"Enter."

I did. It was actually pretty nice inside, Janeway had it in the same style as her ready room. Mostly stock, but had added small items on some surfaces, the random plant, small knick knacks.

The door closed behind me and I curled my tail so it could do so as I shifted to sit down, "Captain. Captain Chakotay."

Janeway and Chakotay were standing close to the window, Janeway holding a PADD in her hand. She looked at me, "I already told him. Now I want you to tell him."

I nodded and Chakotay turned to me, "I was suspicious that somebody was working with the Kazon. So I went investigating. I discovered that somebody was infiltrating my systems and tracked it back to Seska."

Chakotay nodded slightly, "How sure are you that she's working for the Obsidian Order?"

"Eh," I admitted, "Conjecture to be honest. I'm ninety percent sure she's a Cardassian and not a traitor Bajoran, and her being Obsidian Order comes naturally from that. I suppose she could be a member of their military, they do have some sneaky divisions as well."

He sighed tiredly and took the PADD when offered by Janeway, "Damn," he said quietly, "And she's working with the Kazon?"

I shook my head, "I have found no proof for that. I have actually found no proof anyone is working with the Kazon, that was simply a theory to explain how they keep finding us. That's why I started looking."

"I've been wondering about that too," Chakotay agreed, "But I can't see a motive for any of our people to do it. Even if Seska is a Cardassian agent, she still wants to get home."

I snorted, "I thought about it," I said, "And there is one motive I can see. If whoever is doing it truly thinks they will never get home, that it's better to build a home here, find allies, build a powerbase..."

"And you're certain it's nobody on Voyager?"

"As sure as we can be," Janeway agreed.

I nodded as well, "I don't see how they could, even if they wanted to. At least without me discovering it. I have analyzed every kind of emission we do, down to ions from the drive."

"Didn't Seska sneak her signals past that for months?" he asked, one eyebrow raising.

I bared my teeth a bit, "That's different. They're piggybacking on legitimate ship to ship comms. There is no way they could possibl- son of a bitch," I then finished as a thought struck me, "If there was a repeater on your ship, that could work."

That would even explain why the attacks stopped when the ships separated.

"You think someone on Voyager is working with the Kazon?" Janeway asked.

"...I had ruled it out, but now I can't," I admitted and glanced at the timer, "ten minutes. I have a suggestion. We deal with the Seska issue first and then we go over the Val Jean with a fine toothed comb. Trusted personnel only, working in trios. If we find a repeater installed, we know what's happening."

"We'd need to do that anyway, we have no clue what Seska has left on the ship," Chakotay agreed and rubbed his eyes, "...Damn. Taking her into custody will be difficult."

"I have an idea," Janeway supplied, "If you think you can keep her from discovering the truth. I'll invite your entire senior staff for dinner tomorrow. We grab her in the shuttlebay."

I snorted, "If she's an Obsidian Order agent, she would be good at spotting lies. Even this meeting in a coms blackout is bound to be making her extra paranoid. When you head back, just bring a stun grenade. Walk to her quarters, open the hatch, toss it in, close the hatch. Let's not complicate things."

Janeway smiled a bit, "Well, that certainly has simplicity on its side. What do you think?" she asked Chakotay.

Chakoitay looked tired but he nodded, "It seems like it would work," he agreed, "we're going to need to put her in your brig. Even if we had one, we have no idea what she's done on my ship. And if she is under arrest, we can figure things out. I'm not convinced she's not being set up by someone else, but we have to be sure."

"Agreed," I said, "may I recommend you bring a pair of security personnel in the shuttle?"

Chakotay shook his head, "No, it has to be my people. Seska is... at least pretended to be... one of us. We're… were close. We'll capture her and bring her to your brig. We need to know if she's responsible or not. I'm not completely convinced yet, but… we should still act on this."

"Five minutes left until com outage runs out," I warned, "I should not be here when it runs out."

"Thank you, Lieutenant," Janeway said.

I nodded to them and left her quarters, heading for the brig. One place I had actually also only visited once.

"Uhm, sir?" the crewman assigned to the empty brig said, quickly putting a PADD he had been playing a game on out of sight.

It kept playing the music of the game.

"Don't let me disturb you, Martinez," I said, happy to remember somebody's name, "You keep doing you, I'm just inspecting the cells."

He turned the PADD off, "Any special reason, sir?"

I shook my head as I looked at the little metal boxes, open ended with one end only meant to be closed with a forcefield, "Not really, just had a random thought last night. You know how we've beefed up our security armaments with some projectile weapons?"

"Yes, sir, those are awesome," he agreed with a grin.

"Thank you," I said, pleased he liked my design, "Same idea about the cells. Forcefields are good, but just as there are species resistant to phasers..."

"...there may be those that can get past a forcefield," he agreed, slowly nodding, "You're thinking bars?"

"Actually, I'm thinking of a solid metal mesh," I said, "With a door and a lock. Mechanical, not electronic."

He slowly nodded, "Unconventional, but would certainly cover all bases," he agreed, "But why not solid doors?"

"We still want full insight into the cell," I pointed out, "I'll assign someone to get them installed when we get some time over. It should be a fairly straightforward procedure. Only take a couple of hours."

"Sounds good to me, sir."
 
"Unconventional, but would certainly cover all bases,"
Janeway: "Since when do we have turrets with railguns?"

Zephyr: "Our shields are oriented towards energy weapons. Kinetic energy such as generated by a crash isn't well-handled by them. Launching a small chunk of metal at relativistic speed is still a bad day for the target."

Janeway: "And the ram on our nose or that Jolly Rogers emblem on our hull?"

Zephyr: "Err... I was a little enthusiast with our low-tech upgrades."

Tuvok: "And technically, since we are scavenging everything we can along our way, we are space pirates."
 
I have been thinking about how the threats in the delta quadrant may react to zephyr and I have two things to bring up with two races.

Vidians
To them zephyr will be a goldmine, an immune system that destroys everything which probably includes the phage. This will drive up their priorities to capture voyager than prime timeline.

Hirogen
They're hunters if I remember correctly, they once invaded and then hunted the crew in holograms for sport yes?. Zephyr is the apex predator for them.
 
Also it makes it so a power outage doesn't mean an automatic prison break. Always seemed so weird to me when that happens.
 
Also it makes it so a power outage doesn't mean an automatic prison break. Always seemed so weird to me when that happens.
Remember Star Trek Discovery?

During one episode, Michael survived the vacuum because a small section of her jail still protected her with a force field.

Star Trek tech is very redundant and biased towards protection... Which is almost absurd considering the number of OSHA violations anywhere else.
 
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