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A slight misconception I must correct: Robot Masters can learn. They can level up. They just don't have free will, though they fake it really, really well.
Its actually easier to just conquer the world than it is to convince them to support us willingly.
Not to mention that if we start spreading our tech around then they can and will use it against each other and us eventually.
And if they don't, other organizations would crop up that will.
I hope not... theat would reveal way to much of our arsenal
100 combat personnel with effective support personnel and tech to make a single solder wreck entire battalions of first world solders and a single tank wipe out hundreds of equivalent tanks. and tech that allows for mass recruitment of loyal minnionsIt's not. We're a small group with maybe a hundred people? Trying to occupy and control the entire world. The second point? Won't happen in the middle of an alien invasion and ordinary politicians do not think like SV where the first order of business is to murderhobo or conquer everyone else.
I hope not... theat would reveal way to much of our arsenal
100 combat personnel with effective support personnel and tech to make a single solder wreck entire battalions of first world solders and a single tank wipe out hundreds of equivalent tanks. and tech that allows for mass recruitment of loyal minnions
No. It's "50 loyal personnel" from starcraft, along with probably a few dozen soldiers & support personnel from XCOM.
Even if you're not overestimating our military might? We're talking about entire armies with WMDs.
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Here's how it will probably go. A huge invasion of extraterrestrials invade Earth. Something right out of scifi, and probably the one thing that will unite mankind--since it's a singular threat out to wipe out or enslave our species.
Then we come in with a lot of fancy human technology. All we ask is for funding (and personnel) to hire people, build up industry (a lot of our shit is too advanced to really be built off earth industry at the start anyway) and do R&D. We can sell products to first/second world countries' for their militaries while building ourselves up. We can send our own troops out as PMCs when necessary, and probably play the leading role in creating a space fleet.
After we fight off the aliens? Space practically and legally has no territory. We can easily become a megacorp and become a de facto sovereign country in space if we really want to.
You know, it IS possible for you to build your own help.well we will wait and see if we are here first or the aliens .
We NEED the Earths Population though 6-7 Billion people are this rock if we want to eventaily take the fight to the Dirty Xenos Bastards we need a large navy and an equaly large army. both we can only get here on earth.
If we do not have enough time to unite mankind before the aliens show up we can institute an indoctrination procedure on all of our new recruits ( probably while they are doing Gene mods) so we have our large army of Space Guardsmen and an effective Space navy (we have to have chased off the Aliens) so we can just formally unite mankind ( using Shadows and mind control proceduers as necessary) and any Resistance crushed.
well we will wait and see if we are here first or the aliens .
We NEED the Earths Population though 6-7 Billion people are this rock if we want to eventaily take the fight to the Dirty Xenos Bastards we need a large navy and an equaly large army. both we can only get here on earth.
If we do not have enough time to unite mankind before the aliens show up we can institute an indoctrination procedure on all of our new recruits ( probably while they are doing Gene mods) so we have our large army of Space Guardsmen and an effective Space navy (we have to have chased off the Aliens) so we can just formally unite mankind ( using Shadows and mind control proceduers as necessary) and any Resistance crushed.
Step 1: Raid an african prison
If by that you mean: petty tyrants and countries all over will fall over themselves trying to sell out to the aliensHere's how it will probably go. A huge invasion of extraterrestrials invade Earth. Something right out of scifi, and probably the one thing that will unite mankind--since it's a singular threat out to wipe out or enslave our species.
Or... we could do that on paper while also subverting key personnel and pretty soon we are literally ruling the earth.Then we come in with a lot of fancy human technology. All we ask is for funding (and personnel) to hire people, build up industry (a lot of our shit is too advanced to really be built off earth industry at the start anyway) and do R&D. We can sell products to first/second world countries' for their militaries while building ourselves up. We can send our own troops out as PMCs when necessary, and probably play the leading role in creating a space fleet.
I dunno, Robot Masters are pretty loyal to their creators most of the time.True but as Megaman itself shows us AI is a Hell of a crap shoot. there are Good AIs yes but they are more or less out numbered . I would rather have Humans in command with Simplistic AI's doing the grunt work ( No Free will at all, Shakled and all the safeguards w can devise)
If by that you mean: petty tyrants and countries all over will fall over themselves trying to sell out to the aliens
Or... we could do that on paper while also subverting key personnel and pretty soon we are literally ruling the earth.
Its not like we would just announce our intent to conquer the earth ahead of time, we are not a movie villain
That isn't what megaman shows at all, AI in it is extremely reliable. The AI made by dr light that turn "evil" are actually tricked by dr willy who then reprograms themTrue but as Megaman itself shows us AI is a Hell of a crap shoot. there are Good AIs yes but they are more or less out numbered . I would rather have Humans in command with Simplistic AI's doing the grunt work ( No Free will at all, Shakled and all the safeguards w can devise)
Last I checked, china and russia were super powers. And why do 1st world nations matter? most of the raw materials come from 3rd world countries. Not to mention that all manufacturing has been moved out of 1st world countries. If you want to seize the worlds manufacturing you want to capture taiwan, china, and russiaYou can't really do that when they're trying to kill you. And petty tyrants? I'm talking about 1st and second world countries, the ones that matter.
The aliens in xcom are not out to kill humanity, they are out to conquer and assimilate it. Their attacks are meant to cultivate humanity into a useful tool by giving them an incentive and the means to develop. that is the whole point of the plot. but since we took the xcom upgrade that says aliens will fight us seriously then they might skip to conquest instead of cultivation of primitive potential new recruits
We can do that by co-operating with what will be the military alliance of humanity anyway. Really, we're going to be the gift horse and I think in what's to be the biggest crisis to our species to date, they won't look us in the mouth.
Also, I'm just saying but do take note the QM rated my post "insightful", particularly the one where I said earth politicians will not try to murderhobo and conquer for no reason.![]()
Step 1: Raid an african prison
Step 2: Throw all the prisoners in starcraft marine barracks to be neuro programmed and turned into marines.
Alternatively
Step 1: Neuro reprogram world leaders
Step 2: Have them form a world government under the UN, under us.
Alternatively
Step 1: Build AI, we got everything dr wily and dr light can build up to megaman 4
and then we Convert them into Space Guardsmen and murder the Filthy Xenos with themIf by that you mean: petty tyrants and countries all over will fall over themselves trying to sell out to the aliens
I dunno, Robot Masters are pretty loyal to their creators most of the time.
EDIT: I as the QM solemnly swear not to screw you over with a rogue AI unless you do something really, REALLY stupid or an antagonist tries to subvert one.
That isn't what megaman shows at all, AI in it is extremely reliable. The AI made by dr light that turn "evil" are actually tricked by dr willy who then reprograms them
mmm, that is a good point actually. 21st century earth does have plenty of hackers and it would suck to have our robots be turned against us.Okay Easily hacked/Converted AI's are not better we may look into it further but Manned should be our focus
mmm, that is a good point actually. 21st century earth does have plenty of hackers and it would suck to have our robots be turned against us.
You keep saying that, but QM already answered you that we can build a robot armyTrying to take over Africa..maybe. But sure as fuck not with our dozens of people.
Hence why I specified second world countries. And because 1st/2nd world countries are the ones with most of the economy and military that matters.
Trying to take over Africa..maybe. But sure as fuck not with our dozens of people. Just getting funding to do everything & co-operating a little bit is the easier, more time efficient and ethical choice. I'm sure if we really need spare bodies we can't get via volunteering, russia & china will oblige and have the UN turn away if we have countries give us convicts to "resocialize".
You keep saying that, but QM already answered you that we can build a robot army
and I repeatedly pointed out that our starcraft marine barracks can take literally any human we throw in it, reprogram their brain, and build them into a starcraft marine which is stronger than 21st century tanks and airplanes.
we won't be taking it over with our dozens of people, our dozens of people will be doing research while we take over the world with armies of millions of robots and reprogrammed humans.
I think a bigger concern is whatever supernatural powers are currently around
That is the big problem, I said we should have located our base in africa for a reason.How are we going to accomplish these third world soldiers plans if we are located in Europe?
You keep saying that, but QM already answered you that we can build a robot army
and I repeatedly pointed out that our starcraft marine barracks can take literally any human we throw in it, reprogram their brain, and build them into a starcraft marine which is stronger than 21st century tanks and airplanes.
we won't be taking it over with our dozens of people, our dozens of people will be doing research while we take over the world with armies of millions of robots and reprogrammed humans.
I think a bigger concern is whatever supernatural powers are currently around
We could, as a PR move, exclude certain nations from our conquest, publicly congratulating them on being such stellar people that they don't need our help to clean up.Why not? 1 Space guardsmen could remove any number of third world soldiers and warlords and we can then covert them into more Space guardsmen build up enough steam and we can build up one hell of an army realatively quickly. not to mention most people would thank us for cleaning up the place.
We do have the ability to mine on our own, you know.That doesn't matter. You can't build a robot army to conquer everyone else without first using your <100 people to secure the natural resources necessary.