Turn 16 - Second Contact
September 22nd​, 2121

One thing you had to admit, as you considered the screen in front of you. When Adriana wanted something done, her Ministers were just as competent as yours had been. Case in point? The current situation. You'd been given resources last year to pursue the creation of a body for Iris, but not even yourselves had really expected to succeed. When you had, the reaction had been extraordinary, if understandable. She'd put it best herself, although much removed from the moment in question.

'The Shiplords took away the Second Secret with the Sorrows. Humanity's ability to build upon the life you'd been given, and even make it.' What you'd done in creating her avatar had been to reignite the dream of making humanity more than itself, but more than that too. Her skin was a sensory marvel, and the ability of her chassis to simulate the perceptions of a human a vast leap forward. Even more so in that it had been done without Practice being woven into her shell. It was replicable. The response had been predictable.

"Miss Hawk?" A voice tugged at you, but you ignored it. Questions could wait, this was important.

Resources had flooded in, alongside a Home Office led team with backing from the Ministries of Science and Practice. But subordinate to you and Mary, as you'd both demanded. Iris was still young, and she wouldn't be able to stay that way for long. The needs of humanity might support the need for a swift understanding of her frame, but you wouldn't compromise her childhood. Not if you could help it. Fortunately, you could. The work had proceeded according to a schedule created by yourself and Mary, with as little of Iris's time taken up by it as possible.

There hadn't been a single protest, but at least some of that silence was down to the meticulous notes your friend had kept of the design and prototyping stages that led to the avatar that Iris now wore. That and the knowledge of the process you both shared. There was very little reason to involve your daughter in the process, apart from the requests for up to date scans. You were, after all, constantly working to upgrade her frame.

"Miss Hawk?" That voice again. "I'm sorry ma'am, she's not… But I couldn't just do that," the suite of system modifications and software upgrades was coming along nicely, so much so that you hoped you might be able to finish it this year. Without the support you'd been given by the government it never would have been possible, but now?

"Amanda!" You jerked up from the scrolling text that you'd been lost in checking for the nth time, and froze. The workshops were often quiet, but not like this. This was the silence of the slow breath taken before the plunge, and all eyes were glued to the holographic representative of Adriana in front of you. She must have been calling, but why hadn't she gone through Sidra instead of-

"Clear the room." She ordered. A moment later, you were alone.

"Adri, what's going on?" You asked, or at least you started to. You only got the first two words out before she replied, with words you'd hoped and feared in equal measure ever since you'd learned they were coming.

"They're here." Data surged into your mind, courtesy of a sealed data package forwarded to you in the last few moments according to Sidra

Your eyes widened, then widened again as you started to absorb the contents of the packet. "This is live?"

"It is." Adriana looked down at the desk outside of the transmission intake. "Fifteen ships, just as Insight said there would be. They came out at the edge of the system ninety seconds ago, no active stealth systems as far as we can tell. The Lux will give us a readback within the next five minutes."

"They've been in a fight on the way here," you noted softly, Sidra picking out the signs of battle scars on a few of the hulls. "Can't have been anything too serious. Courier craft are long lightly armed, and they made it here intact…"

"That matches the reports I'm getting now." She replied. "We've put a lock on the lagless data, but it won't hold for long. We're too open a society, and I wouldn't be surprised if we start receiving transmissions from them within the next few minutes. They came here looking for us, after all."

"I wouldn't bother with the lock, Adri. It's a waste of effort, and if we're going to talk to them people will find out soon enough anyway." She shrugged at your words, a little helplessly maybe, and you smiled to soften any blow behind the words. Then you took a very deep breath. "Why are you calling me, Adriana?"

"Isn't it obvious?" She asked in return, a weary determination clear in her eyes. "We need you." Her hands came up quickly. "Not for long. Just the initial contact stages, a few months at most. But there's no one else alive that has the same common support, or knows humanity as well as you do.

"Please, Amanda."
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Do you agree to help the Diplomacy Corps with Second Contact?
[X] Yes
[] No Hahaha you thought this was even an option :V


"Of course."

"I'll arrange a," you held up a hand with a chuckle to stop her.

"No. Focus on what you need to do on your end, Adri. The packet you sent has everything I need. I'll clear things here, convince Mary of how important this is," you restrained an artful shudder, "and make my own way. I'm faster than any ship you could send, and you know it. Just make sure I have some clothes for when I get there."

"Thank you." She breathed out, almost prayerfully.

"Thank me when I'm there." You replied. Mary really wouldn't be hard to convince, she'd known this had been coming. Fortunately, the Contact Fleet had been considerate enough to give her most of a year to stabilise after the event. Iris…might be more of a problem. Especially as she was likely to demand to go with you. That was going to be fun.

How do you approach your family about your being needed on Concordia very soon? As fortune might have it, Mary is teaching Iris this afternoon.

[] Write-in

Second Contact mini-turn commencing…
 
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God(s) unspecified, save me from myself.

I know a bunch of you have been waiting for this, and I actually rolled a dice months ago to see when the Contact Fleet would arrive. Another die was rolled more recently to determine the month they'd arrive in. The Contact Fleet is fully intact, albeit with some combat scarring on the hull plating of some of the ships. Before you start panicking, Amanda is entirely correct in her reading of how things would be going down if those were the result of Shiplord interception. So it's not that. Get that paranoia out of your head right now. There's more useful things to be paranoid about now :V

Anyway, I'm aware that you probably are going to have a…um…lot of questions about this. Please ask them, and I'll put together a baseline Status Screen for this mini-turn as part of the answers. Acting as Adriana's envoy in this will put you in a prime position to influence the initial stages of Second Contact and the negotiations to follow, but the policy isn't yours to make – which I think may be a first ever for SV quests. Could be wrong, of course, but I suspect I'm not. That said, Adriana respects your opinion deeply, so if you really want to push a particular point for negotiations down the line, you'll have the opportunity to do so.

Putting it simply, this mini-turn will be about opening relations and the theoretically 'lighter' conversations that precede full bore diplomacy. Not that diplomacy itself.

On the matter of voting, the Tinker vote will remain open until this latest one closes.
 
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How do you approach your family about your being needed on Arcadia very soon? As fortune might have it, Mary is teaching Iris this afternoon.

Wait, why are we going to Arcadia? Isn't the diplomatic corp for second contact on Concordia? Unless our input will be doing research related to the new aliens? From the wording of the request it seems like we'll be more hands on though, as a representative of humanity?

Also, just finished binge reading all the threadmarks for the first time and I only wish I could give this story infinite likes. IT'S SO GOOD.
 
Wait, why are we going to Arcadia? Isn't the diplomatic corp for second contact on Concordia? Unless our input will be doing research related to the new aliens? From the wording of the request it seems like we'll be more hands on though, as a representative of humanity?

Sgahhshsshhhshag. Remember kids, writing when sleepy when your story likes to use similar names can make for amusing accidents.
It's fixed. Thank you.

Also, just finished binge reading all the threadmarks for the first time and I only wish I could give this story infinite likes. IT'S SO GOOD.

Welcome!
 
WELP. Let's hope our op diplomacy doesn't fail us now.

And now you people want to give her a monocle? Is she not classy enough for your tastes :V
Snowfire is being silly, please pay it no mind.

WE NEED ALL THE CLASS! Any and all luxury taxes can now be paid by directly contributing to Amanda's formal attire!
 
Can we bring her? She is a pretty pointed demonstration of both our capabilities (notable) and what we would do with them given a choice (make things to hug).

That's...surprisingly well thought out. I have two questions: does Iris know how to act in a setting like this, and would we count on her to do so?
 
TLDR: If the guiding intelligence behind Practice turns out to be malevolent it doesn't matter because we're already dead, so we may as well not worry about it.

Yep, this.

The GM can't use vague comments to try and ratchet up player paranoia about this, as if there IS an intelligence behind the powers - then Humanity's already screwed if it's hostile. There's nothing they can do about it and the species would be dead and buried now.

So, why worry?
 
Isn't Practice forged from Dragon/Human sacrifices? Or maybe it's something like the Shiplords.. why do they even have the ability to disrupt Practice? How? Did some race use Practice against them?
 
Isn't Practice forged from Dragon/Human sacrifices? Or maybe it's something like the Shiplords.. why do they even have the ability to disrupt Practice? How? Did some race use Practice against them?
I get the feeling that they have their own form of it, though I have difficulty describing how I've come to that.
 
As portrayed so far, Amanda is not really an observer, or someone who has the modern scientific mindset.
The discrete measurements implied by the o-scope don't really work for someone who is more likely to be fiddling with any phenomena and thus changing it's very nature, than passively observing it.
This won't actually be the first time that Amanda has created a Practiced object whose primary purpose is to observe. In fact, we actually saw Amanda and Vega do it before, when Practicing the medical scanner that is (presumably) being used to study the Unison devices in hopes of building more of them:
"All right then," Amanda stepped over to the chair beside Vega, looking down at the burnt out medical scanner that was her first item of the session. It had only been a few months since she'd said Vega was ready for trying to do this with her, and the lead up to it had been very strange, but you were keenly aware of how much your sensors had missed. What Mandy was trying to teach Vega was something that you were still trying to put together a proper theory for, for all that results were relatively easy to follow. Your current problems were the result of not being able to track what came between the two points.

Your scanners registered a sudden build-up of energy around Amanda, currents of strange power swirling in around her as she focused on the deepest parts of herself that she was willing to touch. There were deeper places still, but she'd only been there once, when she'd opened the Elder's Door and had no desire to experience that headache again. Tracking the flow of the Practice energy beyond it being present had, unfortunately, proven frustratingly troublesome. Then her lips moved.

Mend

The word was spoken in the same way as any other, but it didn't feel like one, and it certainly didn't have similar effects on the world. The device in front of her rippled strangely, over a dozen different variables to it shifting imperceptibly towards the goal that Amanda had Spoken, reality twisting in response to the command. In some ways, this was very like what most Potentials did when they used Practice, but there were differences. The most obvious of them was the incredible speed at which the effects of a Practiced Word propagated into material existence, but largest one lay in their utility. Practice was most easily applied to devices, inanimate objects, and was tightly constrained by the Potential's Focus. A Practiced Word had far fewer restrictions, and had been shown to be far more capable of affecting people during the Second Battle of Sol. How exactly, and why conventional Practice found it so difficult, was a mystery you hoped that this observation might help you solve.

There was a lot you were hoping it might help you solve, honestly.

The medical scanner blinked on as the final pieces of it flowed back into place and Amanda pushed it over to rest in front of her pupil, nodding encouragingly as the younger Unisonbound looked up at her. It had been months since Mandy had started their classes, and her continuing failure to reliably Speak was clearly starting to wear her down, but it hadn't stopped her from continuing to try.

"Alright." Vega muttered, and energy surged into existence around her on your readouts, following the spike that was almost familiar by now. It built, levelled out, and she stared intently at the active device in front of her. Mending things wasn't Vega's Focus, although she could twist it to function that way more easily than most. Harmony brought things together, made them function better as a whole, and that's what she was aiming for.

"Har," she stopped suddenly, shaking her head as the first syllable emerged as a word and a word only. But the energy build-up didn't dissipate, and the despondency seeping into her posture vanished as she realised that. Her eyes never moved from the device in front of her, but her mind was far away from what was in front of her.

Harmony

The energy rippled out from her in a tightly packed wave that travelled no further than the medical scanner, wrapping around it and sinking deep into its structure. Changes rippled across the display pane monitoring it, showing a massive increase in its computing capabilities as half a dozen new functions slotted into its memory from nowhere.

"Well done!" Amanda's excited words broke the quiet echo of Vega's Speaking. "That was a definite improvement, wasn't it?"

"Yes," Vega nodded slowly, as if disbelieving that she'd succeeded so easily compared to her first work. A small smile blossomed on her face. "Is it really that simple?" She asked, looking over again at her tutor, and you recited curse words internally as the inability of Vega and Amanda to translate their actions into concepts you could understand reared its head for the nth time. By this point it was a well-polished rant, that you had no intention of subjecting the two to again.
So yes, it is absolutely possible to craft a Practiced object whose primary purpose is to observe; we've done it once already. The difference is that this time we're making a more general-purpose tool of discovery, rather than one of diagnosis.

As for Amanda not being a scientist, we in fact have two Traits directly related to Amanda's scientific background, thanks to Mary's large impact on her early life, and one of the reasons we're in charge of Arcadia at all is because Amanda is dedicating the next part of her life to heading and participating in one of the premier scientific institutions of Humanity 2.0. She actually has a higher Learning score than Vision, the Practiced AI.


And Practice is all about doing; even Insight, the most passive of the lot, still requires reaching out past countermeasures and into the Dark, not looking through a scope. If I was going with a strictly observational artifact for Amanda, it would probably be along the lines of a jeweller's loupe.
Wholly aside from the observational artifact that was created "on-screen" above, Amanda has also use purely observational Practice at least twice that we're directly aware of:
"I want to," power spread across your body, seeping into every cell, waiting for a purpose. And now you gave it one.

To Speak the Word: 27 + 80 (Practice) + 30 (Web of Dream) + 20 (Concert Set) - 15 (Unknown and Unspoken) = 142 vs ??? Success

Understand


The word was only barely spoken, the hardest to have ever passed your lips in the speaking, but you felt the change immediately. Something in the way the way the world was laid out in front of you, and as you stared at the immobile Shiplord you found yourself picking out things that you'd never seen before. Tiny things really, but together they formed an outline, like the edge of a jigsaw puzzle. Was this how Insight Focused saw the world, you wondered.
"I just wish," they repeated, the words melding together in dozens of different tones from only two throats. The two reached out, a hand each extended, and you took them without hesitation. Your fingers might have trembled a little, as you watched the energy signatures build up and up and up, but if there was even a chance…

You could understand.

Vega and Amanda had few memories of their greater workings, but yours remained far more complete, even their Unison Platform records holding onto less than your own mind. In some ways, that wasn't a surprise; Spoken Practice had affected hundreds all at once aboard the Calypso, and their memories of that experience had remained. Yet here it was concentrated down onto one person alone, and with a far more complex purpose, to try and help you understand what had been holding you back for years. To act as a bridge between your own fledgling understanding and a full knowledge that was buried centuries beyond your grasp.

It couldn't give you everything. It wasn't a matter of safety so much as a matter of reality. There were limits to how far even Practice could stretch, limits that you and Amanda and the others of the top-flight Potentials of their Awakenings were still properly feeling out. This, apparently, was one of them.

But if it couldn't give you everything, it could give you a great deal, and in the pursuit of understanding any knowledge, no matter how small, was to be treasured.
Neither one of these involved any sort of active spirit-journey or Thoughtcast: Amanda Spoke the word, and Understanding appeared.

On the other hand, I do agree with you that Practice seems generally more suited to objects that require an active, engaged participant, which is why I settled on the oscilloscope in the first place. I had considered something similar to your suggestion of a jeweler's loupe (a microscope), but I considered it too passive for our purpose. An oscilloscope is a much more "active" sensor than something like a loupe or a microscope, requiring active probing of the surface to be studied; I figured that would be more appropriate for a scientific instrument that was meant to be used, rather than something that merely requires the user to sit back and observe.

I get the feeling that they have their own form of it, though I have difficulty describing how I've come to that.
The big clue here is how the Shiplords reacted to "Purify". Clearly the Shiplords have come up against something similar to Speaking before, and it drives them into a suicidal charge. They may not have their "own form" of it, but they have developed a defense (Essence Disruption).
 
The big clue here is how the Shiplords reacted to "Purify". Clearly the Shiplords have come up against something similar to Speaking before, and it drives them into a suicidal charge. They may not have their "own form" of it, but they have developed a defense (Essence Disruption).
They do. How dare you profane that gift and persist.
"How dare you." You jerked back in shock, eyes widening unconsciously as the Shiplord spoke. The voice was deep, with the toneless edge of a synthesiser, but there was no missing the cold rage burning beneath it. "How dare you profane that gift and persist!"
Shiplords have a much, much greater history with Speaking than humanity, apparently. And it's something they consider sacred, to be driven into fury over seeing it being profaned.

How do you approach your family about your being needed on Concordia very soon? As fortune might have it, Mary is teaching Iris this afternoon.
The irresponsible adult in me wants to pull Adri in a three-way conference call and make her explain why Mandy is needed away.
Then again, this is not how Amanda would do it.

So, the "plan" as it were is something like this (and hey, why am I the first one posting anything on this write-in?):

[X] Plan Why am I the one to make the plan?
-[X] Call up both Mary and Iris immediately. Lead up with the arrival of the delegation of other species. (OOC - since we told Adri not to bother with locking the lagless data we want to be the ones to break the news to them)
-[X] Tell them you're coming home to give them a hug and a kiss, but you'll have to leave for Concordia right after (OOC - this is full of guesses and assumptions)
-[X] Tell them that you invite them to join you on Concordia at their convenience (read - as soon as possible, you'd very much like their support).
-[X] Tell them you are genuinely sorry you cannot take them with you, but Sidra isn't exactly designed for passengers.
-[X] And contact Adri to tell them of their decision to join you or not.
 
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Can we bring her? She is a pretty pointed demonstration of both our capabilities (notable) and what we would do with them given a choice (make things to hug).

You can, sure. If you should is another matter.

That's...surprisingly well thought out. I have two questions: does Iris know how to act in a setting like this, and would we count on her to do so?

These are excellent questions. You think the answer to both of them is yes, but there's the possibility of a larger issue here, in that AIs don't seem to be something any of the Group of Six have access to. VIs and integrated processing extensions? Oh yes. But AIs? No.

Yep, this.

The GM can't use vague comments to try and ratchet up player paranoia about this, as if there IS an intelligence behind the powers - then Humanity's already screwed if it's hostile. There's nothing they can do about it and the species would be dead and buried now.

So, why worry?

:( Mean.

So yes, it is absolutely possible to craft a Practiced object whose primary purpose is to observe; we've done it once already. The difference is that this time we're making a more general-purpose tool of discovery, rather than one of diagnosis.

That was a Practiced object, however. An item restored and made more than it was with Practice. What Amanda is trying to make is quite a lot more than that. It's the difference between an off-the-shelf art piece and the handpainted work of a master.

hey, why am I the first one posting anything on this write-in?

I was going to ask this question to the entire thread, but fortunately someone actually did post a plan. What gives?
 
but there's the possibility of a larger issue here, in that AIs don't seem to be something any of the Group of Six have access to. VIs and integrated processing extensions? Oh yes. But AIs? No.
So we'd need to figure out if they'll see her as a technological marvel or a sign of impending robot rebellion first. Gotcha.
 
I was going to ask this question to the entire thread, but fortunately someone actually did post a plan. What gives?
The translation should be finalized today and about 5 hours ago it was realized that they ordered the translation for the wrong deployment mode.
Aka work in real life fu the fun parts ...
 
Well I for one am not sure how this is going to interleave with the other cute that's still going on. Are we supposed to be combining them, or waiting until one closes?

Ah! I put in a little section on that at the end of the AN post, but it wasn't bolded and there was a lot of text there. At this point...yeah, you can consider the previous vote closed.

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[X] A Mender's Forge (Write-in) - DC varies depending on write-in.
-[X] An oscilloscope
--[X] An ordinary oscilloscope is used to measure voltage waveforms, and can be adapted to observe other signals. Amanda's Practiced oscilloscope can observe... somewhat more esoteric phenomena.
No. of Votes: 6
[x] World's Remedy (Multitool)
No. of Votes: 5
[X] A Mender's Forge (Write-in) - DC varies depending on write-in.
-[X] A pantograph
--[X] Sometimes, it's necessary to work at a different scale than you're used to - with unsurpassed control and attention to detail, or with sweeping motions that set out a pattern greater than yourself. A normal pantograph allows creating the most delicate of engravings and the most faithful of enlargings - what better for you, now that you are free to focus more closely than the Presidency ever allowed, on studies which may yet have a greater impact than any before?
No. of Votes: 1
[X] A Mender's Forge (Write-in) - DC varies depending on write-in.
-[X] A compass.
--[X] The compass is a simple device, allowing one to find their way with the barest of reference points. No matter what lies ahead, this will keep Amanda true.
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 13

So you'll be getting your Multitool back together, Vote was counted in error. Please ignore. The construction process won't be finishing until after the mini-turn resolves, however. Second Contact is acting as an interrupt, and it's a doozy.

Latest interlude voting is open. Don't worry about reposting, @Faraway-R, I'll be running the vote from the last threadmark.
 
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Isn't Practice forged from Dragon/Human sacrifices? Or maybe it's something like the Shiplords.. why do they even have the ability to disrupt Practice? How? Did some race use Practice against them?
No, Humanity's ability to use Practice is forged thus. Practice itself appears to be a fundamental property of the universe.

I thought concert set is already integrated in Sidra, isn't it?
I think "integration" in this case means that it's linked via Practice, not that it's physically melded into her Unison platform.
 
@Snowfire Aw dangit, man, I was about to switch my vote to Oscilloscope and you closed the vote WHILE I WAS TYPING MY POST!

:rofl: Sorry, I can't help finding that funny. What would you have been changing from?

I think "integration" in this case means that it's linked via Practice, not that it's physically melded into her Unison platform.

Not really (OMG Coda actually getting something wrong in their reading of the universe!). The Concert Set is part of the Platform, as shown by how she was able to access it without having carried it around with her during the Pantheon interlude.
 
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