The Practice War [Complete]
- Thread starter Snowfire
- Start date
- Original Sci-Fi
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
What 'more' are you expecting, and why?
- Location
- Queensland, Australia
Most or all of the city, rather than parts of it.
Basically? All the towers in perfect, or better, condition (which is basically what Vega's going to give us anyway...) and all of the city... instead of just the parts closest/most involved with the towers like it's said is what Vega will give us unless she rolls really well and defies expectations. If we roll really well... Maybe pull of Skylark 2.0, Bigger and Better? (By which I mean, all the wonders, databases and research files, rather than just the cities...)
Basically? All the towers in perfect, or better, condition (which is basically what Vega's going to give us anyway...) and all of the city... instead of just the parts closest/most involved with the towers like it's said is what Vega will give us unless she rolls really well and defies expectations. If we roll really well... Maybe pull of Skylark 2.0, Bigger and Better? (By which I mean, all the wonders, databases and research files, rather than just the cities...)
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ah, more SL bait. Got it.
- Location
- Boston
[X] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
[x] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
I trust Vega and the circle enough that i value letting them gain this experiance instead of a better miracle. also, i'd agree with the idea that the circle should be able to function at peak without 223 aid.
I trust Vega and the circle enough that i value letting them gain this experiance instead of a better miracle. also, i'd agree with the idea that the circle should be able to function at peak without 223 aid.
[x] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
[x] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
Normally I would go with the other option but, if I understood things correctly, they are already good enough that they won't simply be amazed but actually learn from the first-rate look and experience in participating. And that is more valuable than anything for the goal of accomplish things on this level without someone like Vega or Amanda, because what distinguishes the great from the extraordinary is that vision of what could and will be; which, if you don't just naturally get, the best way is to be shown when you can understand what it means.
And if they aren't yet at that point then it is useful information for Vega and them to know too.
Normally I would go with the other option but, if I understood things correctly, they are already good enough that they won't simply be amazed but actually learn from the first-rate look and experience in participating. And that is more valuable than anything for the goal of accomplish things on this level without someone like Vega or Amanda, because what distinguishes the great from the extraordinary is that vision of what could and will be; which, if you don't just naturally get, the best way is to be shown when you can understand what it means.
And if they aren't yet at that point then it is useful information for Vega and them to know too.
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Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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Alright, let's have a look at the tally.
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##### NetTally 1.9.9
[11] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
[9] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
Total No. of Voters: 20
...huh. That's something of a reversal from this morning. Expect this to remain open through the day, I'll probably pull the trigger on closing it tomorrow morning.
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##### NetTally 1.9.9
[11] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
Total No. of Voters: 20
...huh. That's something of a reversal from this morning. Expect this to remain open through the day, I'll probably pull the trigger on closing it tomorrow morning.
[X] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
It's been my feeling that there have been quite a few choices where Amanda has jumped in when she could have let people grow a bit more.
I suppose the trend makes it a character trait, but it's one I'd like to see reversed. Amanda already made the big step down from letting humanity rely on her, now she needs to practice that a bit more on a personal level too.
It's been my feeling that there have been quite a few choices where Amanda has jumped in when she could have let people grow a bit more.
I suppose the trend makes it a character trait, but it's one I'd like to see reversed. Amanda already made the big step down from letting humanity rely on her, now she needs to practice that a bit more on a personal level too.
Upsides to speaking: +Mars, possible +Mary (because of +Mars).
Downside: probable -Vega/Harmonials (larger minus to learning from doing it themselves than the positive from seeing an expert do it). Possible Mary exasperation due to not being able to keep from jumping in on things.
Hmmm...
Downside: probable -Vega/Harmonials (larger minus to learning from doing it themselves than the positive from seeing an expert do it). Possible Mary exasperation due to not being able to keep from jumping in on things.
Hmmm...
Mizu
Software Developer
- Location
- Victoria, Australia
hundred million souls.
[X] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
Vega's gonna pull off something impressive if we intervene or not, that Miracle roll proves that, but with our aid it'd be even better. And seeing as it's a city which is historically important to almost all humanity, being the first off-world place we made, I say go for full restoration.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Also: Amanda gets tratis: "If I want it done right I have it to do myself" and "I'M the CENTER (of attention)".
Tayta Malikai
200% Space Whale
- Location
- Australia
There's the argument that the rest of humanity needs to figure out how to do things by itself. That Amanda's personal intervention goes against her professed intentions of not becoming the god of humanity. That the pride humanity will feel when it looks back and sees what it accomplished on its own merit will outweigh anything Amanda could give them
But really, I'm just voting this way to be contrary.
[X] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
But really, I'm just voting this way to be contrary.
[X] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
- Location
- Wordcats
*looks in*
Still close? Really?
Fine then, you have until I finish work today. That will be in about five hours. If you want to vote or argue for a side, that's your window.
Seriously though, it's lovely to see this being so contested. Means I did something right with the setup.
Still close? Really?
Fine then, you have until I finish work today. That will be in about five hours. If you want to vote or argue for a side, that's your window.
Seriously though, it's lovely to see this being so contested. Means I did something right with the setup.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Your motivations for voting aside (
), there is a difference between "not holding humanity's hand" and "abandoning humanity".The key part of why Amanda decided to retire, as pertaining to this argument, is that it would let humanity learn to make decisions without Mandy's giving clear directions. Well, Vega has made her decision to reach out to Mandy in this situation. It's not Amanda imposing her will on humanity as a god would (though it says nothing about not imposing her will on reality
), it's her giving help when asked.It's not like she would refuse participating in the next Shiplord Defense event just because she's not a president anymore, after all.
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Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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- Wordcats
And that's a wrap folks.
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##### NetTally 1.9.9
[15] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
[12] Let the moment pass, for only through doing can Vega truly learn.
Total No. of Voters: 27
Voting is Closed.
Please stand by.
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##### NetTally 1.9.9
[15] Join your voice to the Circle and Speak a Word of Restoration
Voting is Closed.
Please stand by.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
And there's two ways she can provide help:The key part of why Amanda decided to retire, as pertaining to this argument, is that it would let humanity learn to make decisions without Mandy's giving clear directions. Well, Vega has made her decision to reach out to Mandy in this situation. It's not Amanda imposing her will on humanity as a god would (though it says nothing about not imposing her will on reality
1) take the reins herself
2) "I trust you."
- Location
- Somewhere.
Whew, that was close.