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The Power(Harry Potter/The Gamer)

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Enjou said:
Looking at our experience this turn we only have 20/80. That's rather disappointing. I'd think we'd have killed enough zombies to get further than that, especially given we earned 4xp from Flobberworms really quickly.



James Potter had the same wealth, and he didn't use the potion. Neither has Dumbledore to remove his need of glasses, and he's not likely poor by any stretch of the imagination. As to knowing how to brew it, wealthy people can pay others to brew potions for them.

The effect of the potion is likely that it just removes any visual impairments not natural to the user. It restores the drinker's sight, so if they're naturally nearsighted it will restore them to that state.
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That's because... Forgetful. It should be higher. Specifically 72.
 
Ok, we've got the option to pick spells now as well.

[X] Stinking Cloud
[X] Mirror Image

Stinking cloud will cause most people to be briefly useless from nausea. That's pretty good in a fight.
Mirror image creates one to four clones of the user that are indistinguishable from the user and mirror his actions exactly. Again, useful in a fight.

Two other useful spells would be Darkness, 15' Radius and Detect Invisibility. The first creates a cloud of darkness that can't be penetrated by any light, effectively rendering those within blind. The second detects invisibility. Both useful.

[X] Meet with Dumbledore first.

Trondason said:
Does someone have a list of D&D spells that are available at LVL 2? I'm not sure what edition we are going off of.
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Two level 2 mage spells from here.
 
[X] Meet with Dumbledore first

[X] Strength
[X] Detect Invisibility

Constant Vigilance! Moody will definitely approve of us learning these, especially if we can teach them to him.
 
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Trondason said:
It is advancing, but not at the same rate. Hogwarts, for example, is still a marvel of the magical world. It is one of a kind, and feats of such magic has not yet been recreated.
Apparition has been around for who knows how long, there is no indication of when it was made. Same with the memory charm.
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Just off the top of my head, that's incorrect. The memory charm was invented in the late 1500's, early 1600's. I'll see if I can dig up when apparition was invented when I'm not on my phone.

Hogwarts being a marvel means absolutely nothing about the "rate" at which magic is advancing. The Philosopher's Stone is a marvel as well, and was invented centuries after Hogwarts was founded. Hell, Wolfsbane is a marvel. Damocles technically did what the Founders and Merlin all couldn't when he invented something actually able to interfere with Lycanthropy.

You have absolutely nothing backing up the claim that magic is somehow advancing more slowly than before...but even if it was, that doesn't make the past some sort of magical "HayDay" - precisely because magic has improved since then.

It went up to, and THROUGH the skull, along with the scales on the other side. Again, said scales capable of blocking the cutting curse.
You can't use "sufficently skilled" as a qualifier. A sufficiently skilled wizard could blink a Basilisk out of existence, lift Hogwarts off it's foundations, and turn it into a giant swan.
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No, it didn't. All we know is that he stabbed up, was drenched in blood, and got stabbed in the arm. Given how short the sword was and how the large snake was, I'd go so far as to say it likely didn't penetrate out - not that such a thing is relevant anyways, given it would be from the inside out.

The entire "oh, but it counteracts magical resistance" is a weak argument to begin with. We know sufficient magical power can overcome such limitations anyways, and of course I can use sufficiently skilled as a qualifier when the conversation is about spending time creating and then using a glorified toothpick instead of gaining skill.

But even ignoring that, I will note you said nothing about this not being accomplished by just shooting a spell at the roof of its mouth.

It was not a novelty item. It was a item of such worth, that the Goblin King himself wanted it (it's made of silver and ruby, but so what, goblins have plenty of those, it wouldn't be worth as much effort as he put into trying to get it, the value had to be the magic enchanted in it).
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Nah, its absolutely a novelty item. A novelty item of such relative worth that the Goblin King himself wanted it, greedy little fuck that he was. But lets assume that the magic was somehow the reason he wanted it (and he couldn't replicate said magic despite being the guy who made it in the first place) - so what? What does this have to do with wasting our time learning to wield a sword, when anything it can do can be accomplished otherwise using skills we would want to be training anyways?

And while Dumbledore could cast charms to open almost any lock, do you not think that if he took the time, hours, days, maybe even weeks, to create the best unlocking device he could, said device isn't better than something he can cast at a moments notice?
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Yes, I doubt it would be better.

But even assuming it was better, his time would be better spent improving himself in general and just opening a door with his incredible magical skill whenever he needed to. That is the point.

Trondason said:
The only thing we really know is that they are found naturally on Azkaban island, where a Dark Wizard built a fortress a long while ago.
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We also know they were "breeding" after being unleashed at the end of Book 5, and the chilly fog was a byproduct of such.




[X] Meet with Dumbledore first

[X] Mirror Image
[X] ESP
 
[X] Meet with Minister Fudge first.

[X] Rope Trick
[X] Mirror Image
 
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[X] Meet with Dumbledore first

[X] Mirror Image
[x] ESP

Since we have no real risk of being detected and most wizards don't practice Occlumency, no reason not to

Is ESP detectable by occlumency?
 
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Dr. Bob Doom said:
[X] Charm Person
[X] ESP
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Van Ropen said:
[X] ESP
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1. We should refrain from spells that affect people's minds/personalities/thoughts, I think. Tends to range from illegal to frowned upon.
2. ESP's function can be done through leglimency. We should probably avoid spells that have equivalent spells in the Harry Potter universe, unless they are specifically lower level and more efficient to use.

Halpo133 said:
Detectable, no. It's too passive for that. Blocked, yes. ESP is too weak to penetrate even beginner occlumency barriers.
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In other words it would be useless against pretty much anyone important. However, does it go under Leglimency? The only use for it given we already have that would be a passive way to grind it, but since it's a spell I could imagine it could go under Charms just as easily.

Goldfish said:
[X] Benign Transposition
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Not on the spell list. here
 
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Enjou said:
1. We should refrain from spells that affect people's minds/personalities/thoughts, I think. Tends to range from illegal to frowned upon.
2. ESP's function can be done through leglimency. We should probably avoid spells that have equivalent spells in the Harry Potter universe, unless they are specifically lower level and more efficient to use.



In other words it would be useless against pretty much anyone important. However, does it go under Leglimency? The only use for it given we already have that would be a passive way to grind it, but since it's a spell I could imagine it could go under Charms just as easily.
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1. Agreed but knowing what spell our opponent will cast is very helpful. Even nonverbal spells can be countered easily.
2. ESP can't be detected, which sounds far superior to Legilimency as of right now.
 
Enjou said:
In other words it would be useless against pretty much anyone important
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But massively useful against everyone else, given the rarity of Occlumency. You have a point about ionizing overlap though...but doesn't that apply to Stinking Cloud too? That's an effect we should be able to duplicate as well.
 
Enjou said:
In other words it would be useless against pretty much anyone important. However, does it go under Leglimency? The only use for it given we already have that would be a passive way to grind it, but since it's a spell I could imagine it could go under Charms just as easily.
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It goes under charms. It's also different, as it picks up on the surface thoughts of everyone around, with the ability to focus on a single person's surface thoughts. Legilimency doesn't. Legilmency is the process of navigating through a person's mind, and interpreting the memories they see there. It can also be used to implant visions(as in the 5th book.) It doesn't grant passive mind reading, though it can be, eventually, cast wordlessly and wandlessly. So legilimency can get a much deeper scan, but only of one person at a time, and you have to see them. ESP can pick up surface thoughts of everyone around, but there's no gaurantee what is picked up on would be useful. It also doesn't need you to see the target, but can be blocked by various materials(2 feet of stone, 2 inches of any metal but lead, a thin sheet of lead).

ESP is weaker, but more versatile. Legilimancy is far more powerful, but limited to a single target.
 
Van Ropen said:
No, it didn't. All we know is that he stabbed up, was drenched in blood, and got stabbed in the arm. Given how short the sword was and how the large snake was, I'd go so far as to say it likely didn't penetrate out - not that such a thing is relevant anyways, given it would be from the inside out.
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That is through. And even from the in out, it is having to cut through the scales.
Van Ropen said:
The entire "oh, but it counteracts magical resistance" is a weak argument to begin with. We know sufficient magical power can overcome such limitations anyways, and of course I can use sufficiently skilled as a qualifier when the conversation is about spending time creating and then using a glorified toothpick instead of gaining skill.
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Didn't say it counter-acted it, said it was cutty enough to over-come it.
And you can't use sufficiently skilled when both directions are equally limitless. A sufficiently powerful tool can do anything a sufficiently powerful wizard can. The argument is entirely about the time needed to do it, not how far it can go.
Van Ropen said:
Nah, its absolutely a novelty item. A novelty item of such relative worth that the Goblin King himself wanted it, greedy little fuck that he was. But lets assume that the magic was somehow the reason he wanted it (and he couldn't replicate said magic despite being the guy who made it in the first place) - so what?
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Because it's a sword of such masterwork, that it is unlikely they could recreate it. Atleast not without sinking a huge investment. Griffy's (his whole name is a hassle to spell out) sword already exists, and was already pay for. If he could just get it, it's money made.
Van Ropen said:
But even assuming it was better, his time would be better spent improving himself in general and just opening a door with his incredible magical skill whenever he needed to. That is the point.
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At the level he's at, with decreasing returns, it would take months or years to get better, while making the better tool only took days or weeks. THAT is the point.

Halpo133 said:
ESP is weaker, but more versatile. Legilimancy is far more powerful, but limited to a single target.
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Can we mix the two, when we learn them, to become a greater form of mind-reading?
 
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Trondason said:

That is through. And even from the in out, it is having to cut through the scales.

Didn't say it counter-acted it, said it was cutty enough to over-come it.
And you can't use sufficiently skilled when both directions are equally limitless. A sufficiently powerful tool can do anything a sufficiently powerful wizard can. The argument is entirely about the time needed to do it, not how far it can go.

Because it's a sword of such masterwork, that it is unlikely they could recreate it. Atleast not without sinking a huge investment. Griffy's (his whole name is a hassle to spell out) sword already exists, and was already pay for. If he could just get it, it's money made.

At the level he's at, with decreasing returns, it would take months or years to get better, while making the better tool only took days or weeks. THAT is the point.
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That's the movieverse. I'm going by the books. That said, not really important. None of this really is. If there were a choice of books and one of them was sword fighting, sure. If you had stat points to allocate, again, sure. But right now you're picking spells(2 from 2nd level or lower mage spell list in AD&D), and deciding if you visit Dumbledore or the Minister first.
 
@Halpo133 question - if we were to dedicated an action to interacting with the menu non-verbally, would the Gamer's skill creation ability make a meta-skill that allows for telepathic control of the menu, or is that too out there?
 
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