The Lost Primarch Quest

Lightning_Strife · Oct 2, 2020

[X] Do you know what we will do when the Crusade ends?
[X] What do you think is the greatest [fixable] problem with the Imperium?

Kamangr · Oct 2, 2020

[X]Topic: Present and Future
-[x] Why are you sending so much support? Won't it hinder your own operations?
-[x] Do you know what we will do when the Crusade ends?

It's Malcador's rare rest time. It's prudent to take a light but meaningful talk, I think. Other than these, we all know what his answers would be one way or another through discussion among us or omakes.

argenten · Oct 3, 2020

Negaverse Roboutte

Pisonvery said:
...WHAT WAS IN THAT COCO?!?! Okay, I'm calling it, the friggin Twins have drugged us!

Geria said:
*sigh* And here we go

Pisonvery said:
What do you mean? This is clearly some kind of drug trip.

Nightmarehunter said:
To avoid derailing, gonna ask why you think you got drugged. Far as you know Kear, Jaghatai and Perturabo are on the level, and promised nothing like that would happen.

Tritonsgreat241 said:
Me too, I thought this was what we were waiting for?

Pisonvery said:
Perturabo admitted he was WRONG! About THE major point of disagreement between he and us canonnically, either we were drugged or he was, so I shall reiterate: WHAT WAS IN THAT COCO, AND WHERE DID THE TWINS GET IT?"

gOOBer said:
Dude, I have one word for you: Kesar.

Vull5555 said:
Wait...you mean that rumor was TRUE?! I thought that was just a story our marines made up, like the thing about Solarus being insane. Still don't know why a that was a low roll result.

Iwannaboatub598 said:
Hey, after Konrad asked for our help with VULKAN'S human rights reforms...I'm willing to believe anything...and it'd fit with this Kesar's angle of being the huggy little brother.

Geria said:
There we go, something that isn't "The twins are around every corner, good grief that's gotten old. Honestly, this is big progress for Pert and all and its great...but I'm happier for something else entirely.

Tootootoosmall said:
The final lifting of our self imposed exile?

Geria said:
YES! FInally someone has asked us for help in a big enough project that we can finally make connections and stop sitting around because we keep flubbing our 'get over ourselves' roll

Tootootoosmall said:
Yeah, I know I pioneered the idea of not being a pushy putz like canon Roboutte but damn if it didn't bite us in the ass going the opposite direction, although that stuff with Corax was interesting. Roboutte is canonically hinted at having more in common with Lorgar than just building up compliances into being productive.

Vull5555 said:
Yeah, we got invited...to insanity, why are we agreeing to take on a project this massive when we won't even be in charge? At best we'll be glorified imperial guardsmen, and at worst we are on the ground floor for a chaos invasion when this flops.

Nightmarehunter said:
I won't say this is a sure fail, although the dice do seem to be having fun, as you're going to be getting a whole host of Malcador agents to help you clean up and build up the area. To the point where he's losing an action point.

Vull5555 said:
...What?

Iwannaboatub598 said:
And now *I* get to say I told you so, Kesar gets WHATEVER he wants. He's heading this invasion thing, so Malcador's pulling all the stops...let's ride this pony!

Geria said:
Seriously, considering how close the Maelstrom is to our realm, we can at best extend Ultramar massively, at worst we can work closely with Malcador and help unfuck things in the budding Administratum. Cause holy crap did the Nobles start hoarding fast.

Nightmarehunter said:
Yeah, Malcador's living in perpetual busy times. If you do good and aren't too obvious helping Vulkan or Corvus with more...side projects, you could finagle yourselves pretty close to Malcador like that

Pisonvery said:
NO! Nononono, NO! Working with Malcador means working with the twins, that is bad.

gOOBer said:
Can we not dude? Even if it did mean working with the twins, all that would mean would be pranks, not sabotage, that was cultists, we found them and got them and it gave us a boost to catching Tzeentch's minions which is a huge boon so can we stop treating the twins like the plague?

Tritonsgreat241 said:
Yeah same, we should have apologized when we had the chance. I mean, we got to make peace with Perturabo, that's friggin HUGE right there, and we got a reasonable in for IC stuff about chaos.

Nightmarehunter said:
Yeah, Jaghatai rolled very high on his trusting you with that, and Kesar failed his save spectacularly to stop him, so I figured better to make a funny out of it. Although you still gotta take actions to learn about Chogoran culture and mysticism to get further along there IC.

Tritonsgreat241 said:
Yeah that's fair, it's still an in which is more than we had for awhile. So...who's gonna come up with the plans this time?

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And there's my first Negaverse post, the thread flipping out about the meeting and some kibitzing about past bobby G stuff.

Hope you enjoy @Daemon Hunter

Brogatar · Oct 3, 2020

[X] Plan Timing is everything

RandomDwarf · Oct 3, 2020

@argenten that was bloody wonderful, we need more negaverse omakes out for each of the primarchs!

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

Waist Deep

Lion'el Johnson had not expected to hear from Magnus so soon, let alone be asked to meet in person again. On the one hand, it was good to be able to confirm the various rumors and stories their other brothers had shared...on the other hand, Magnus was a legitimate enough wildcard that Lion was feeling a sense of...unease at what this could portend. So as Magnus's shuttle drew closer to the Invincible Reason, Lion indulged in wondering just what it would be this time...he was not disappointed.

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"And just how did you come by this information." Lion asked Magnus with a deeply suspicious look on his face, after they had made the usual greetings and walked to a suitable meeting room with a map projector that Magnus had been quick to use to illustrate his request. He wasn't sure what the problem was, but he was starting to get concerned that his knightly brother's default state made Kesar's first captain look complacently unconcerned, "In the course of my investigation of the Eldar Card and related artifacts, I came across evidence that there is a cabal of nobles in this sector that have convinced themselves that they will not only be able to take Eldar as slaves but that it is a beneficial thing to do."

"Did you get this from the Eldar themselves?" By my missing eye he's just as tenacious as Leman Magnus mentally groused, "The most the Eldar said was, and I quote, 'The bond of chains would be forged in this sector.' so I used some of my Rogue Trader contacts to feel out the Xeno trade in the region. Nothing untoward was done in your domain, I made sure to get copies of the paperwork and travel logs they used for you here for verification purposes but for work such as this I did want to give a subtle hand. At worst they'd just engage in little to no trade and move on, as it was, we have proof there is a conspiracy to introduce Eldar to the highest elements of the sector's nobility."

Lion took the proffered paperwork with a skeptical raised brow, which Magnus had to resist rolling his eyes at, but after quickly reading as was the norm for any primarch, Lion reluctantly nodded and handed it back, "In the future, I would ask that you approach me first about such matters, Rogue traders can be unreliable agents and I would not have disruptions in what is my domain." Magnus nodded in a conciliatory manner before Lion continued,

"And with that being said, I am deeply concerned about your cooperating with Xenos, even a known factor as the Eldar. Our loyalties and focus should be to the Imperium first and foremost, any benign interactions should cease and be considered most unwise." Magnus raised the brow over his good eye and resisted the urge to translate that to 'Stop that, it's dumb and the Imperium comes first.' but then he came up with a response that had him putting on the most innocent smile he could (which would have made anyone who knew him well enough duck and cover...in the next sector...in the nearest necron tomb...in the center of a bunker made of the bones and skin of blanks...) and asked,

"You are absolutely right, which means that these Nobles trying to get Eldar slaves and possibly leaving themselves open to being influenced by the incredibly long lived xenos' influence is a bad thing, yes?" Magnus had to use biomancy to prevent himself from breaking into a category-5 shit eating grin as Lion's face puckered as if the Lord of the Dark Angles had bitten into the quintessential essence of lemon. Magnus could see the wheels turning in his brother's head, trying to find something wrong with Magnus's logic, yet Magnus's mental timer that he had started didn't get past '5' before Lion growled out with supreme irritation, "Your logic...is...correct...but your application...is...impertinent."

'Translation: You got me with my own words and I hate it with all the fiber of my being.' Magnus mentally snarked with aplomb but bowed his head, "I meant no disrespect, and neither do I intend to betray or allow myself to be influenced by the Xenos as these nobles have, I merely wish to see if they have anything that might be of use in my research. I was actually hoping coordinate how the matter would be dealt with, naturally I would be coming along to help in the search, my abilities and growing experience with Eldar artifects would be quite useful. But this is your realm and I would never seek to interfere in it, let alone in such a disruptive manner. It would be your sons at the fore, I would be an advisor at most."

Magnus wasn't surprised that Lion still looked hesitant to accept so he decided to push a bit, "Look Lion, I know you've probably heard a lot of...unkind things about me from Leman, but I do want to help. I owe you a favor and this is something I can effectively help with to balance the scales...and yes there is my own interest in it, so that checks off the box of what I get out of it, so you don't have to look at triple angles. Is it so strange that earnestly want to help?" Lion did not respond long enough that Magnus was beginning to feel a little insulted before letting out a sigh,

"No, and you have been upfront as to your interest, which makes sense considering the matters Sanguinius verified...very well, I shall send my sons to investigate and you will accompany them as I have been given certain orders by the Emperor and need to remain focused." Magnus gave a sigh of relief only for Lion to raise a finger, "Any artifacts that you find go through me first. I have heard how you tend to leave campagins mid battle to pursue items or knowledge that catch your interest."

The Red King didn't wince but it was a near thing as he gave a long suffering sigh instead, "Oh I am not that bad, you and Leman make me sound like a bleeding magpie distracted by anything shiny." Lion cracked a thin smile at his brother's histrionics.

"Yes well, if the power armor fits." Magnus narrowed his eye in mock anger before laughing, "Fair enough. You will send me an astropathic message when you are ready for the investigation?"

"Indeed, now...if there is no other business?" Lion said, getting up to leave with Magnus joining him, "Sadly no, I have a number of matters to see to as well. Thank you for your time and cooperation Lion."

The two brothers said their goodbyes and Magnus returned to his shuttle, whistling a little tune that the Harlequin had been playing when Magnus had been busy solving the riddle and thought to himself, 'Well brother, you are not completely wrong...but books and tomes are not precisely artifacts so I did not lie. Still, hopefully this pans out or else things shall get quite awkward.'

Magnus blanched a moment when he imagined the reaction Lion would have to things going south, that would definitely quality as being waist deep in a river of shit.

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And thus Magnus is off on more adventures...I wonder what will be the result >.>

Now to do more Negaverse stuff, those things are addicting.

Hope you enjoy @Daemon Hunter

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

Roboutte Negaverse 2

gOOBer said:
Ya know, speaking of Kesar, this is arguably the best group to help fix our *horrendous* CR problem.

Tritonsgreat said:
Good point, ever since we got lucky and Al Caponed the shitbird cultists with friggin TAXES of all things, been really wishing we had an in to get that fixed, but aside from Kesar are the others really that good with CR?

Nightmarehunter said:
Out of the three, the White Scars are the lowest at 135 CR and that is before Kesar catches them up with his runes and other techniques.

Tritonsgreat241 said:
https://i.imgflip.com/t29ll.jpg

Vull5555 said:
...Okay, I rescind my complains, if we can get even a third of the way to that close, then this will be worth it.

Geria said:
Yeah, it really reinforces just how vulnerable we are at this point with Chaos being much more active.

Nightmarehunter said:
I am now hesitant to tell you the Eternal Warden's CR if this is how the whitescars made you feel.

Tootootoosmall said:
Hit us now, otherwise everyone's gonna be freaking out forever.

Pion43 said:
Mhm, we know it's gotta be high, maybe 175?

Pisonvery said:
Nah, I'm thinking more like 160, that's strong but still leaves them vulnerable which would fit with them being the Lamenters, friggin using the same battlecry even.

Nightmarehunter said:
..........+260 With max bonuses added through Heroes and Kesar himself.

Tritonsgreat241 said:
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/onepiecejawdrop.jpg

Vull5555 said:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/80fae08fe31e7aa019df98ddbb837b97/tenor.gif?itemid=5610220

Pion43 said:
..........How? That is, what, nearly twice as much as the Iron Warriors...waaaait, is this why the Iron Warriors are so high?

Geria said:
I knew we were low on the totem pole but that is just obscene. Are they angling to replace the Grey Knights or something?!

Nightmarehunter said:
You say that...and Malcador has actually considered the Grey Knight Project redundant at this point. Guess your Primarch focusing on fighting corruption to help his planet with an 8 millennia war can have that effect.

Iwannaboatub598 said:
This would explain that whole being the favorite thing I mentioned before, holeee sheeet. I mean, I really hope we can take notes now, especially after Jaghatai spilled the beans about the Chaos gods, sorry, I mean the 'Yaksha Kings."

Tootootoosmall said:
Yeah, and I love how he points out the canonical issue of the WS never having been censured for their beliefs, I wonder if the Emperor even knew, he was so absent from the Great Crusade unless he needed to be in the battle personally it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know.

Feginlives111 said:
Okay, so! Got a plan, title is 'How to make friends and to influence people...'

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And there we have it, another negaverse entry with the Bobby G crowd getting a hint of just how out of their depth they would be if they were in the actual Ritual invasion.

Enjoy @Daemon Hunter and the thread.

RandomDwarf · Oct 4, 2020

i will laugh once you do a negaverse on just fucking bullshit the wardens are, and what their AD is like. Of course Kesar being nice gives them basically three separate plans:
1) Your sons will live but minimal experiance will be gained to fight chaos. (5-10 CR)+(low AD)
2) your sons will be injured but gain valuble experiance against chaos (15 CR)+(Mid-AD)
3) Your Sons will die...there will be death and suffering, but it will be worth it. (25 CR)+(Max AD)

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

Negaverse KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

Allhailspeedwuiiid said:
Say it!

TooLoosetolive110 said:
You were right and we're not doing the bit. Let's just focus on how friggin lucky we were that Papa Smurf decided not to push because we rolled a nat 100 on how much we wanted to trust him.

Baddreamhunter said:
Oh yeah, Roboutte rolled a 91 on a 90DC to not go full "I will do better and loudly proclaim it" when you told him that, he's actually going to be discrete and follow along to learn of your culture and Stormseers.

Lisasssuru585 said:
Oh thank the speedforce, lucked out by 1, let's not do that again shall we? We already took enough risks prepping for this

Ihascheeseburgar said:
No kidding, but this is friggin huge, Kesar inviting us on what is basically another Ullanor. Seriously, 3 legions, endless waves of the IA, and the Emperor being there too with full regalia and Custodes, this is a chaos Ullanor and WE will be one of the three getting to march in Triumph.

Lisasssuru585 said:
Let's not get carried away, we're looking at massive casualties even if we do well, although us getting an extra year to train was a big bonus. Our best Stormseer boi has earned his speedweed brownies.

bikerLORD468 said:
No kidding, on both counts, but this will definitely set the record straight about our legion and maybe even get us some training from the Iron Warriors, on setting up quick forts for us to hold and attack from. I am tired of rando orks and other crap getting to kill us cause we either go fast or DIE.

Allhailspeedwuiiid said:
That and the CR bonus will be sweet, I know we're pretty high on the scale but with CR enough is never enough. Speaking of the Iron warriors, talk about some heavy stuff between Perto and Ultrasmurf supreme, I didn't know they had history.

Baddreamhunter said:
Yeah, that was what those mystery rolls were for, and I will say, if Kesar wasn't there, Perturabo wouldn't have opened up. I wasn't kidding when I said the offscreen connections between them were causing butterfly ripples.

LerOYJ said:
That's putting it mildly, we're approaching the hurricane at this point of the effect they've had. Actually, that reminds me, what's our plan for imparting our Librarian knowledge and such to the Iron Warriors? Even if they've massively mellowed out, we still gotta deal with the fact a good half our stuff is steeped white tea level in our culture and won't translate well.

Baddreamhunter said:
You're lucky, cause Kesar being here means his psykers can essentially 'translate' your more culture focused aspects into Iron Warrior absorb-able information. So that will help smooth things along

Ihascheeseburgar said:
YUS! Kesar is the gift that just keeps on giving...Hot chocolate! But seriously, this is huge, I think Perty was one of the guys that outright told Magnus that he was being sketchy as fuck, so the shared connection of being friends with Magnus and believing in strong caution with FUCKING CHAOS, that will help us keep in touch and him away from chaos

TooLoosetolive110 said:
I'll drink to that, and I really hope we roll well on that, it isn't going to be easy keeping Magnus on the straight and narrow. What should we start with teaching the Smurfs?

Khan_of_kings said:
We start them in the kiddy pool and let them stay there until we get the clear that they are allowed to know more. At this point just giving them safe basic biatch librarians will be a step up should they get someone like that psyker general again

Allhailspeedwuiiid said:
Works for me, hopefully Chaos is caught off guard, we've seen how attacking the chaos version of IW right now is going to kill us twice over.

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And here we have the Khan Gang, looks like they're excited, and got some big plans.

ANother omake for the Omake throne @Daemon Hunter

Crake · Oct 4, 2020

I laughed at that omake more than I thought I would.

It's worth pointing out (again) that the White Scars were never censured for any beliefs they held specifically because... nobody asked. That's the thing with the White Scars. Nobody fucking asks. And all anyone had to do was take interest.

Failure to realize the nuance behind their actions (or inaction) generally leads people to believe the White Scars are the "I'm a simple man, I see speed and I go zoom zoom" meme.

The only ones who's subtlety is more lost on the plebs than them is (unsurprisingly) the Alpha Legion, who doesn't exist.

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

Crake said:
I laughed at that omake more than I thought I would.

It's worth pointing out (again) that the White Scars were never censured for any beliefs they held specifically because... nobody asked. That's the thing with the White Scars. Nobody fucking asks. And all anyone had to do was take interest.

Failure to realize the nuance behind their actions (or inaction) generally leads people to believe the White Scars are the "I'm a simple man, I see speed and I go zoom zoom" meme.

The only ones who's subtlety is more lost on the plebs than them is (unsurprisingly) the Alpha Legion, who doesn't exist.

Pretty much! It's one of those things that the more you look at it, the more impact the lack of communication *had* in canon and the changes here will do the same.

Really glad you liked the Omake :3

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 4, 2020

That omake was hilarious. Hah! Subtlety wins again!.

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

Negaverse KHAAAAAAAAAAAN 2!!!

Irwinlfan! said:
Chaos can't be taken by surprise, that guy who's a rip-off of the door guards from Labyrinth, Kairos, he'll see it coming.

Baddreamhunter said:
See now that's the thing, I think I can give you this hint...he can't.

TooLoosetolive110 said:
Hang on...is that why we've been able to get regular divination without that massive malus anymore...hang on, you flipped a table awhile back due to a nat 1...WHAT HAPPENED!?

Baddreamhunter said:
You'll find out later if things roll out that way, but I will say you won't have to worry about him for the duration of the Ritual

LerOYJ said:
Okay, so that's something we don't have to worry about. The mollusk is still a problem but without the 'best oracle ever' to cheat off of, I think we should focus on teaching the Iron Warriors something similar to Sanguinius's ability to see a lot of future options to choose best strats

Allhailspeedwuiiid said:
We don't know that ourselves but I see what you mean, we do thing about collecting our divination knowledge and let Kesar and the EW translate it for us so the Iron warriors end up with it?

LerOYJ said:
Basically, the IW already think in terms that would make any RTS freak blush, so I'm banking on their divination being similar as they aren't the type to look to or care much about the subtle stuff. "How do we get through this as efficiently and effectively as possible." seems to be their theme with Kesar having worked on Perty.

Lisasssuru585 said:
That and all our biomancy knowledge. Luckily we're not dealing with the Iron Handsuptheass so they aren't obsessed with being cyborgs, with the casualties they take the Iron Warriors can use all the help in that front they can get

Baddreamhunter said:
That's a good idea, but I will say each discipline will be its own action unless you can get Kesar to agree to join you and then it becomes a joint training op and doubles progress at half speed.

Ihascheeseburgar said:
WOOHOO! Kesar is actually pretty quick in this department, well, with us he is. Heh. How many training actions did Kesar roll for? I assume he went all in?

Baddreamhunter said:
Believe it or not he didn't. He rolled well enough to stop his research and pull himself from the crusade, but not enough to ignore Maclador and the Emperor's warnings about secrecy to pull himself from the socials or his legion from the Crusade

Ihascheeseburgar said:
Really?! How high was the DC for mr "CHOAS MUST DIE!"2.0 didn't pull out all the stops?

Khan_of_kings said:
I can see it actually. Kesar and his legion are pretty big anti chaos, if both he and his legion tried to pull what we did, it would be an instant hunt for the Bismark for chaos right?

Baddreamhunter said:
Gold Star! Kesar is trying to balance secrecy and keeping things looking as normal.

Ihascheeseburgar said:
Aaaah, Kesar would have been better off nixing the socials imo, they help but training could mean a planet won or lost.

Allhailspeedwuiiid said:
Maybe, but one of Kesar's biggest strengths from what we've seen is the impact his socials have had, especially with people like Perturabo, so I'm okay with that going in the background. We're the ones that have to catch up the most so us taking advantage of being 'mysteeeerious mongols' to pull a AAA game dev crunch works for me

Lisasssuru585 said:
Fair point, we're only 5 points short but this really is going to make or break us, especially with us needing to keep in contact with all our Khans. We don't have one First Captain, we have friggin 6!

LerOYJ said:
It's not THAT bad, oh, speaking of Pert, think we can get him to open up about the whole "I see Slaanesh's butthole 24/7." issue?

Baddreamhunter said:
Have to put a kibosh on that one, the only one he's going to be willing to open up about that is Kesar and his sister I can tell you that. You're basically an unknown to him that Kesar's vouched for and made a good first impression, with a bonus for agreeing on Magnus.

LerOYJ said:
Ah frammitz, i mean that makes sense, but still a bummer we can't get rid of that. That was basically a major contributor to him going full asshole right there.

Irwinfan! said:
Yeah, and it doesn't help we got that 'content in obscurity' raising the DC for anything we want to reach out to others about. I HATE THAT TRAIT!

TooLoosetolive110 said:
You and me both. Hopefully this whole thing will knock that off, we don't want to be gloryhungry like Fulgrim but I am SICK of having to be passive cause the DCs make anything proactive too ruinous to attempt outside of 'we can't take this ME planet without help.' requests.

Baddreamhunter said:
That is a possibility but that will require the right rolls and actions at the right time I will say. Now...I think that's been long enough, the moratorium is lifted so feel free to lay out your plans.

Allhailspeedwuiiid said:
Awesome, lets get learning and teaching!

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Khan gang strikes again, this time showing they don't have it all easy street when it comes to diplo actions but lots of potential help for the ritual.

@Daemon Hunter enjoy

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

Iron Salt of the Negaverse

tweedletwad said:
...We're all gonna die, but we're all gonna die doing something EPIC!

Iamdiggy69 said:
Doing something epic? We already did, we friggin owned up to *the* Decimation. Holy crap the malus on that was something I didn't see coming

Soulhunter said:
I did warn you getting Perturabo to get better with Kesar's help would have consequences.

Iamdiggy69 said:
Oh I get that, I just wasn't expecting it to have such specific conditions. Then again the ciphers have really been melting my brain.

holesgoodmovie said:
Dude, please don't remind me, even the friggin enigma stuff I looked up to get this was less convoluted than some of the stuff soul's tossed at us.

Soulhunter said:
Hey, you guys got really good at them, I had to up my game!

holesgoodmovie said:
My ego thanks you, my brain hates you...where's the fountain of aspirin?

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
I got it, been trying to work the PP numbers for Cadia's fortification foundations.

Reavperor@3 said:
Ah fak, i knew I forgot something in my plan before we came here. I don't suppose @ SoulHunter i can adjust my plan?

Soulhunter said:
Suuure, if only because I love watching you guys make the numbers dance to try to find the pylons

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
LET US HAVE OUR DREAM!!!

redbun474 said:
I mean, we're already getting to farm Cadia for CR, it might take longer but at least the side benefit of turning the entire planet into an Iron Cage version of an Ecumenopolis is that we will be like the Robouttian Heresy Iron Warriors and good for fighting against Chaos.

Treestache said:
Weren't the Iron Warriors in RH slowly getting canon through sheer chaos exposure and everything going to lesser shit behind them?

Iamdiggy69 said:
Yeah, but the overall point remains, with Kesar's runes and support, we'll avoid that AND keep getting boosts to our CR until we are just as able to middle finger the warp tumors as Kesar and his sons are.

tweedletwad said:
Yeah, back to Kesar, I think him being there was the only reason we beat that DC for responding to Big smurf boy.

ubeRLIft said:
I really don't see the big deal, we haven't cared about smurflord until we got that malus and now that its gone we don't have to care again.

holesgoodmovie said:
Mainly because it helps clear the 'Burdens of the past' trait and all the diplo-malus that applies. And Roboutte is arguably our match when it comes to logistics and setting up nations. If we can get a lot of his techniques and such, we will really be able to speed up the uplifting we're doing in our garrison worlds.

ubeRLIft said:
But that's not what we do, we're not the smurfs or the word bearers, we build and destroy fortresses.

Iamdiggy69 said:
That's not what *canon* IW or Pert did, we are doing things a weee bit differently, now, back to Kesar. He is our fav little best boi...but he's also insane. Let's be honest, without us and the White Scars he would be furked.

Soulhunter said:
If it helps, he wouldn't have attempted this if he didn't have you. You guys were basically the bonuses to the roll that pushed him past 'go max for a solo legion' to 'i will ram my boot-toe blade into chaos's taint and wiggle' in terms of plans.

Reavperor@3 said:
That is...a description...and now i need brain bleach, gaaah!

redbun474 said:
I really wish we could recall our legion to do wholesale training, but the 'remedial' trickle training should work, especially if we put them in to cooperate with the smurfs once they're done

Soulhunter said:
That's possible but unfortunately you guys didn't alter the garrison situation in time.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Our sons were having fun playing building planets, how were we supposed to see ALL THIS *points to Ritual plan like the will smith picture* coming.

tweedletwad said:
Yeah but that reform the garrison structure has been on our to do list for forever and we kept putting it off cause it was a 'safe' option for when things slowed down...and then Kesar decided that boring needs to die along with chaos!

ubeRLIft said:
This is why we should have stuck to our roots.

kingly1333T said:
Yeah, no, I like that Caliphone is actually starting to like us again. I'd rather not go back to being the avatar of depression and rage.

Treestache said:
Yeah, who's have thought that hugs, hot chocolate and friggin TALKING would help? @_@

Reavperor@3 said:
Speaking of talking, what's the deal on us getting our own librarians? We need battle psykers and biomancers and everything else we can get our grubby iron hands on.

holesgoodmovie said:
Wrong legion but good point, i know it's going to be subject to some rolls cause coordination is never easy, but will we get psykers before the ritual?

Soulhunter said:
That's not something I think will be easy to happen, your legion really doesn't have high numbers of any psyker talents that you know of, so assuming you do go for the knowledge you'd need to check for that as well. So that's a few DCs to get through i will warn you.

redbun474 said:
Worth it! We got that free construction/creation action, might as well build something that can scan for psyker abilities over large populations of humans and space marines.

tweedletwad said:
Whoawhoawhoawhoa, can we even do that?

redbun474 said:
Dude, canon Perty backstory is our guy built a..." psychic sextant device ", in the book "Magnus the Red.", I think something to check for psycker abilities is within our grasp.

Soulhunter said:
Before this gets out of hand, yes that's a possibility. No that is *NOT a low DC invention, even with all your traits and bonuses. You'd basically be spending time chasing a really long shot.

redbun474 said:
What about smaller ones?

Soulhunter said:
Slightly lower DC, much smaller range, and you'd have to build them by hand. Advantages of the big ones would be scope, range and ability to have your Trident work on creating more.

tweedletwad said:
Fak it, I'm in. Go big or go home, that's pretty much our path now. This could help other legions too assuming we pull it off in time.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Speaking of pulling things off...how likely is Kesar to die? I know this seems obsessive but a lot of our positive progress has been through him, and you mentioned that if he died we'd basically break like canon Perturabo did after killing his sister.

Soulhunter said:
No primarch deaths are likely since Kesar kept the limit at 3 primarchs including you, since Roboutte will be staying in Imperial space and working with your marines to keep logistics from getting too funky.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Random stuff goes here

Iamdiggy69 said:
That's a relief! Although I guess that means we gotta worry about our heroes potentially dying?

Soulhunter said:
Oh yeah, all of 3 of your legions are at risk, but if you guys prepare right you might be able to keep the big names alive. I gotta head out, will end the moratarium when I get back.

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And now it's time for the minds behind our fav building bro. I cannot imagine all the math cyphers that they have to go through for bonuses in that negaverse, that would melt my brain really quickly.

@Daemon Hunter behold! More tribute!

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 4, 2020

argenten said:
Iron Salt of the Negaverse

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And now it's time for the minds behind our fav building bro. I cannot imagine all the math cyphers that they have to go through for bonuses in that negaverse, that would melt my brain really quickly.

@Daemon Hunter behold! More tribute!

This was awesome. Also exactly how badly broken would pert be if we died? I don't remember much from the books. especially ones with pert in them.

argenten · Oct 4, 2020

That was about when he went to choas, he had basically crashed and burned and killed his sister with his own hands, so id say not *as* bad as canon but close

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 4, 2020

argenten said:
That was about when he went to choas, he had basically crashed and burned and killed his sister with his own hands, so id say not *as* bad as canon but close

Oh now I remember. Thank you.

argenten · Oct 5, 2020

Iron Salt of the Negaverse 2

purplePIG# said:
Just caught up and wow, talk about butterfly effects left and right. Although I do have to ask if anything's been decided about adopted daddy dearest and his imminent rebellion? Last thing we need is that bit of canon to repeat itself

holesgoodmovie said:
We've put that on the back burner since that rebellion and dumpster fire was originally orchestrated by, you guess it, Lorgar. Without mr "I WILL MAKE PLANETS FLOG THEMSELVES TO DEATH IF THEY DON"T WORSHIP DADDY ENOUGH!" to send chaplains to coerce Olympia into rebelling, the runes we're gonna place there will keep it chaos free.

purplePIG# said:
Oh wow, I forgot that Lorgar has laid the seeds for that too...Kesar russian step dancing on Lorgar's triggers really shook things up. I do think we should take more of a direct hand in ruling Olympia and shaping it up. Dammekos is NOT doing well and the hints from Cali as I call her, they're getting worrying.

Reavperor@3 said:
Oh yeah, personally I'm hoping the prestige from pulling off the Ritual with the others will give us the clout we need to essentially start pushing to actually gain proper control over the planet. Dammekos is useless imo and a middleman we don't need for our homeworld.

tweedletwad said:
I won't argue that...but we don't have the actions to pull it off any time soon, so it's ironic that the losses we'll most likely take will give us the free recovery time to pull off a bloodless coup to get douche daddy D out of the way. Seriously, at least the Emperor had to be millennia old and emotionally and soul gutted to reach the level of bad choices and people interactions he's had...Dammekos is just an asshat.

kingly1333T said:
I still think we should put our sister on the throne, we don't want to rule, that's something we spent weeks solving a cypher to figure out, that Perturabo essentially wants that little house he had in RH canon before the Emperor got to him. So putting Calliphone as Queen/Tyrant would be best.

ubeRLIft said:
1: That's really out of character for Perturabo to do, and 2: We'd have to station at least one of the Trident on Olympia full time to protect her. Why make her a puppet if we're just going to have to cover her back all the time?

redbun474 said:
Because, Calliphone is far from a weak ruler, we've solved a cypher well enough to get that she would do well out of daddy's shadow with her other brother at her side, and because we'd need to leave someone there anyway to properly uplift the planet. I fail to see why letting one of our Trident look after Calliphone and build up Olympia couldn't be a reward for any that do well following the ritual.

Iamdiggy69 said:
That would be a nice way to get rid of that "Father's doubts" malus they have. Holy frak did Perturabo do a number on his own legion. Letting his sons stay on Olympia and protect his beloved sister would be a huge show of trust.

Soulhunter said:
You are right about that, but you still got at least 2 more cyphers to get through before you can do that, there are some requirements that you need to take care of first.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Must...resist...urge to scream...

tweedletwad said:
No despair guys, we can do this. He has to run out of them sometime.

Soulhunter said:
As far as you know >.>

purplePIG# said:
I have to admit I went through on reader mode so I missed the cypher discussion. How does that work mechanically and narratively?

Soulhunter said:
Be happy to explain. Narratively it is basically Perturabo's brain going full cylinders trying to solve all the equations and such that he is known for doing all the time, the bigger the task or plan the thread wants to pull off the harder the cypher is to show how much mental effort Perturabo has to use to figure out how to pull it off, since the primarchs are by and large superhuman thinkers this is the best way to meet that gap.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
And he has become fiendish with them, FIENDISH I SAY!

Soulhunter said:
Hey, you guys managed to get a few really good rewards for easy ones when i started out, but they couldn't stay that way forever...

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
I know, just worried we're missing stuff that will prove vital.

Soulhunter said:
I won't put stuff behind a cypher wall that would leave to quest over, I am not that heartless.

purplePIG# said:
That's pretty neat! And I will say as a newcomer I think helping out Calliphone will be a good idea. If only to minimize weaknesses down the line.

Reavperor@3 said:
Yup, but first we gotta survive this ritual war. Which, I'm really hoping we can boost stuff up that will make our sons survive, yeah we got a really wide compatibility that Kesar's research has boosted, but we need to make them last longer or use this time to basically spam new marines.

holesgoodmovie said:
We do the spam, we risk negating a lot of the bonuses from training and CR they'd get. They'd essentially be as bad as Ultramarines.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
*Wow*

redbun474 said:
The SHADE

holesgoodmovie said:
Hey hey, heyheyhey...am I wrong?

tweedletwad said:
No but still, that was harsh.

holesgoodmovie said:
Eh, fair, still annoyed Ultraprimarch.

kingly1333T said:
Okay, okay, salting at the smurfs aside, I feel like trying to come up with rapid-deploy fortifications is a good move for us. We're not going to be fighting alone so we won't have to have our Iron Warriors pull another Cadia and sacrifice themselves to built the fortifications this time, so we need to be able to deploy and quickly get things set up so the WS and EW have bases to work out of.

ubeRLIft said:
We need to get mobile heavy artillery finished already. Artillery is king in space world war 2 and enough firepower was able to take down Daemon Primarch Angron.

redbun474 said:
Let's not forget that we need to set things up for getting librarians too...

tweedletwad said:
Welcome Purple...to Perturabo action tetris, the quest. Where there's so much time and so little to do...wait, strike tht, reverse it.

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There we go, that's the second Perty Negaverse set around the Meeting...now on to other things. One with lots of *salt*

@Daemon Hunter here ya go

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 5, 2020

argenten said:
Iron Salt of the Negaverse 2

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There we go, that's the second Perty Negaverse set around the Meeting...now on to other things. One with lots of *salt*

@Daemon Hunter here ya go

Where can I find the "Perturabo action tetris"? Also this bloody hilarious.

argenten · Oct 5, 2020

Criminalpidgeon said:
Where can I find the "Perturabo action tetris"?

That's the negaverse's nickname for TLP Perty's quest, they have a lot of options but spend hours trying to maximize the amount of stuff they can do

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 5, 2020

argenten said:
That's the negaverse's nickname for TLP Perty's quest, they have a lot of options but spend hours trying to maximize the amount of stuff they can do

Where can I find it if that's possible? That sounds hilarious because I complete tasks and read so quickly I get bored very quickly. I need something to break the monotony.

argenten · Oct 5, 2020

sadly it doesn't exist excempt as negaverse omakes. I am far from mathy enough to lead a quest that Pert would require.

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 5, 2020

argenten said:
sadly it doesn't exist excempt as negaverse omakes. I am far from mathy enough to lead a quest that Pert would require.

Ah gotcha. How long do you think a pert quest would last..I'd give it a few months at best.

argenten · Oct 5, 2020

Criminalpidgeon said:
Ah gotcha. How long do you think a pert quest would last..I'd give it a few months at best.

I'd like to think anyone Questing for or running a pert quest would have the iron will to keep going until the bitter end

Criminalpidgeon · Oct 5, 2020

argenten said:
I'd like to think anyone Questing for or running a pert quest would have the iron will to keep going until the bitter end

Maybe. But I bet alot would just give up.

The Lost Primarch Quest

Flagship Name

Spirit of Fire

Vigilance

Stella!!

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING