The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
[X] Plan Incursion A

going to be blunt, I don't think the forces from the favor would make a meaningful difference. so i'm voting plan A.
 
Durin said that the forces are capable of making a difference in this fight because they are the some of if not the best forces for dealing with daemons. That are a far more supped up version of ourselves in that they hit and punch far above their size would say.
 
Durin said that the forces are capable of making a difference in this fight because they are the some of if not the best forces for dealing with daemons. That are a far more supped up version of ourselves in that they hit and punch far above their size would say.
To be blunt if you want to make a meaningful difference you should vote to leave the cities/hives at 2 or even 1.
 
We have another favour coming in already. The whole reason we have these things in the first place is to save extremely valuable assets when they are at a heightened risk which both Lin and Ridcully are at right now. It is not wasting anything it is stacking the deck in our favour as much as possible so we all don't lose several game-changing assets to the wider galaxy.
 
Durin said that the forces are capable of making a difference in this fight because they are the some of if not the best forces for dealing with daemons. That are a far more supped up version of ourselves in that they hit and punch far above their size would say.
Honestly it's just pissing me off that people are outright ignoring the fact the freaking QM pointed out that yes, even if the force is small it would in fact help since said forces are elite and the best at fighting daemons. You'd think people would not go 'but it's fine, we have enough' crap after people said the same exact thing when it was suggested that we send more aid to Ridcully even though people knew he would be a prioty target. Do people remember how that ended up?

For gods sake people, learn from our mistakes and stop underestimating chaos. It's one favor and we can always get more. Though it becomes way less likely if Rids ends up getting killed because people decided to pull the same exact crap as last time by being too stingy.
 
We have another favour coming in already. The whole reason we have these things in the first place is to save extremely valuable assets when they are at a heightened risk which both Lin and Ridcully are at right now. It is not wasting anything it is stacking the deck in our favour as much as possible so we all don't lose several game-changing assets to the wider galaxy.
If you want to stack those decks why don't you leave the cities/hives at 1 or 2? That will free up a great deal of PDF and Helltroopers. Sure, we'll lose Billions more Avernites to the incursion but to be blunt they are worth less than a Major Favor from the Eldar.
 
If you want to stack those decks why don't you leave the cities/hives at 1 or 2? That will free up a great deal of PDF and Helltroopers. Sure, we'll lose Billions more Avernites to the incursion but to be blunt they are worth less than a Major Favor from the Eldar.
Because we need to also be intact enough for the Nid invasion in a decade.
 
Its happens to me that if there a 'bar' equivalent in the warp (and the size and number say is very provable). I would guess that one of Chaos Undivided's bar there will many daemons making fun of the 'angels' for finally seeing that Yeah Avernus is that much bullshit, I mean if they didn't get the 'memo' from one of the previous war (or psykers shenanigans).

Sure they will kill millions of humans at the very last, but all the insults that the 'experiment' daemons will do^^. because there will death by small spider to chaos space marines thousand of years old, some will be devoured by wolves (those ones that multiple inside the cave), some will be stepped on until death, being literally glare to death, dying by a flying fruit? by wasp? by a big rock falling up them? be being insulted (by dragons)? death by really small children bare old enough to leave kindergarten or not even that old. Hell there even a chance of some daemon dying from a limbless human after being distracted. Because I can see a avernite hating chaos enough to use themselves as bait and as a trap.

So yeah, there will be lots of avernites death, but these daemons are not 'familiarize' with this planet eternal war either.

oh yeah, my favorites are the hundreds of death by small bug 'excretion' (super power lasers) after all the bug did absorve light to use as form of energy. And death by cave in general^^.
 
Honestly it's just pissing me off that people are outright ignoring the fact the freaking QM pointed out that yes, even if the force is small it would in fact help since said forces are elite and the best at fighting daemons. You'd think people would not go 'but it's fine, we have enough' crap after people said the same exact thing when it was suggested that we send more aid to Ridcully even though people knew he would be a prioty target. Do people remember how that ended up?

For gods sake people, learn from our mistakes and stop underestimating chaos. It's one favor and we can always get more. Though it becomes way less likely if Rids ends up getting killed because people decided to pull the same exact crap as last time by being too stingy.
Any force would help. The point is not to monofocus on thinking we must spend everything at all costs to minimize damage.

And if we truly believed we had to do that the plan vote would have Cities and Hives at [1], sparing up Helltroopers and Helguard. And also [] Crash down ships to slow down the incursion.
Because we need to also be intact enough for the Nid invasion in a decade.
Spend a Minor favor on the Nid invasion then. It literally gets more forces than Avernus' contribution.

Spend the Favors when they make an important difference.
 
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[X] Plan Incursion B

I view the expected level of support at this time as being well worth the major favor, given the strategic resources that are being threatened. Assuming Vlad succeeds we have three major favors anyway, which means I don't see the need to hold them for only game-over tier threats.
 
[X] Plan Incursion B

I view the expected level of support at this time as being well worth the major favor, given the strategic resources that are being threatened. Assuming Vlad succeeds we have three major favors anyway, which means I don't see the need to hold them for only game-over tier threats.

I thought we only had one at the moment?
 
Any force would help. The point is not to monofocus on thinking we must spend everything at all costs to minimize damage.
We are not spending everything. It's one freaking favor and it's to increase our chances of not using several of the Trusts assets including Lin and Ridcully with the latter responsible for most of the favors if not all that the Trust has in the first place.
Spend the Favors when they make an important difference.
Considering that we are eating a freaking incursion aimed entirely at us with the intent to kill Saint Lin and with Ridcully likely being major prioty target as well it does seem like it would make an important difference since the QM himself noted that they would be really good against something like the exact things we are fighting including the Exalted who could kill most of our heroes including Lin.

Also again, Ridcully nearly died the last incursion because people were being stingy with reinforcements.
 
We are not spending everything. It's one freaking favor and it's to increase our chances of not using several of the Trusts assets including Lin and Ridcully with the latter responsible for most of the favors if not all that the Trust has in the first place.
It is literally one of the Trust's lifelines that we are going to spend incredibly inefficiently.
Also again, Ridcully nearly died the last incursion because people were being stingy with reinforcements.
Ridcully nearly died when an Honoured practically appeared out of nowhere and attacked him during an anti-psyker Incursion. We were not 'stingy with reinforcements'. Lin didn't even get a roll to see whether he would die or not.
 
It is literally one of the Trust's lifelines that we are going to spend incredibly inefficiently.

Ridcully nearly died when an Honoured practically appeared out of nowhere and attacked him during an anti-psyker Incursion. We were not 'stingy with reinforcements'. Lin didn't even get a roll to see whether he would die or not.
Except it is not we asked Durin if anyone in the Trust would be angry if we used the favor and he said no and that the only thing that would piss the Trust off is if we made a stupid mistake that got Lin killed.
 
Need to ask a question of durin first.

@Durin
1. If we send a transport to get the Ancient One and it's shot down with him on it, that's just an inconvenience to him right? It's not like he'll die of it?
2. Will having Rotbart give a speech impair his martial bonus?

1 is kind of a serious concern for me because a combat transcendant dying that way would about as bad for the galaxy as losing Lin here.
1. yes
2. by a tny bit for the first phase
 
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