The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
@Durin
1. Is the Trust aware of the Vestri League's existence? I know it's in our Segmentum, but that ultimately means little considering how big it is.
2. If not, are we or the Urberti aware of any imperial era squat worlds? Whether it turns out to be the League or not, Squats are a reasonable place to look for tech considering their divergence from the norm.
1. They know that there is a polity of that name that includes squats. Nothing more including weather it is chaos or not.
 
@Durin could we get more help with Pysker Knights if we bring it up as a joint planet project with the High council? I.e the initial training for them would happen on Asgard (black ships for actually getting the rookies there), finishing school on Avernus and have them deployed all over?
 
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[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
 
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
 
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[X] Arrange meetings between Syr and suitors
-[X] Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir
-[X] Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty

Signumd gets us knights, Uberti will get us a fifth of the Dragon's merchant marine and a tenth of its military production, both are extremely good personal options.

Syr time to harem up :)
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
 
[X] Arrange meetings between Syr and suitors
-[X] Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir
-[X] Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty

Signumd gets us knights, Uberti will get us a fifth of the Dragon's merchant marine and a tenth of its military production, both are extremely good personal options.

Syr time to harem up :)
Ya I can live with getting more info

[X] Arrange meetings between Syr and suitors
-[X] Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir
-[X] Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.

Alfons is my number 2 choice (+10% to thrones income?) but I want those knights!
Adhoc vote count started by Void Stalker on Mar 2, 2019 at 8:40 AM, finished with 305 posts and 14 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Void Stalker on Mar 2, 2019 at 9:36 AM, finished with 318 posts and 24 votes.
 
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.

OK Alfons is a genius at the economy whcih we need. I am one of the few people who tries to keep abreast of Avernus economy. I am not the only one with @Void Stalker stalker essentially using google docs to keep track of the trade, which has been a tremendous help that i can not put into words well enough other than my most heartfelt thanks. We have a huge throne deficit. Now we can grow out of our problem but the thing is we will never truly grow out of it as things are now. WE chase every shinny new tech to equip, which cost not just Am but thrones too permanently. We double down when we do not need too to try to get a crit. We expedite things becasue we can. There are several actions we have currently that cost a tremendous amount of thrones. We can do alright economic wise without hm but any help we could get would be boon in the future. While we are about to get a huge boost to our econom how much of that is going to be eaten uo by Am,Em, and some extent Rm production? The answer is alot since we will keep our forces at the cutting edge of technology in the galaxy.

Things also to consider is that we gain access to a merchant marine fleet and will one day get the whole fleet. Also we can send new Son in Law to explore the galaxy. Knight titans can also be trained but not as well if we had the Baron. So not choosing the baron does not get rid of psyker titans. My hope for that is to get the High council to help with not only the cost but also the training. It just makes sense to go to the high Council. we don't even need for them to be based on Avernus as long as the trust has them.
 
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
 
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.

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We have a huge throne deficit.
Well, first, we won't after we integrate the STCs, which is next turn. Second, there's literally nothing wrong with having a throne deficit we can easily compensate for by selling Midgard of Byzantium some of our insane metal income.

Now, that's not to say that getting more thrones is a mistake or anything, but I will specifically state that it's not super needed either.
 
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
 
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
 
Alfons has a fleet, Syr is an admiral, they can geek out on fleet command together. It'll be cute.
He has a fleet, we have shipyards. It'll be profitable.
Rogue trading is a source of novelties, oddities and artefacts, we have the best R&D in the Trust. It'll be fruitful.

[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
 
Well, first, we won't after we integrate the STCs, which is next turn. Second, there's literally nothing wrong with having a throne deficit we can easily compensate for by selling Midgard of Byzantium some of our insane metal income.

Now, that's not to say that getting more thrones is a mistake or anything, but I will specifically state that it's not super needed either.
We have a small fleet (compared to other Trust members and dragons nest merchant marine fleet) in comparison to everyone else. We had to buy cargo space in order to sell what we sold last time. If we want to sell even more we will need to actually spend actions increasing our merchant fleet (which we never do) or spend credits to buy cargo space.

Truthfully I think the boost we are going to get will be gone as we upgrade our forces to the full extent we can. We still have to upgrade the Hellguard, helltroopers, militia, ships and whatever else that will be huge cost.
 
We have a small fleet (compared to other Trust members and dragons nest merchant marine fleet) in comparison to everyone else. We had to buy cargo space in order to sell what we sold last time. If we want to sell even more we will need to actually spend actions increasing our merchant fleet (which we never do) or spend credits to buy cargo space.

Truthfully I think the boost we are going to get will be gone as we upgrade our forces to the full extent we can. We still have to upgrade the Hellguard, helltroopers, militia, ships and whatever else that will be huge cost.
Once the repairs are done though we can start building mass conveyors (last time the action would give us 9) leading to a huge increase in cargo come the next trade session. Also maybe we just need to learn to stop outspending what we can produce on projects. Ideally we want to be able to cover all upkeep without trade and use trade to help stockpile resources.
Adhoc vote count started by Void Stalker on Mar 2, 2019 at 9:41 AM, finished with 320 posts and 25 votes.
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
 
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.

+10% Throne Income is not game-breaking, even if multiplicative and nice to have. Thrones are a basic resource. Also am rather concerned about risk of dying.
 
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