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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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jjffjhjf said:
Is what he said, 2 was about if scott thoughts on MoS STC and revealing it.

I'm... not sure what 0% you are referring to...
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Yes, given her detailed knowledge of the admech I trust her.

Its a reference to the Quest Callamus is based on Deus Ex Mechanicus.

In that quest the MC finds a DAoT VI and instead of blasting it studies it. Eventually she creates lesser copies of it, but the quest came to an end before they got used.

They are the Calculators we have no chance of getting in Embers.
 
Power Armor switched out for Shadowbat Division.

For ministorum, I don't see the need to triple down on the Chaos action. We likely only got a trait for Nurgle because of that added bonus the Eldar gave us, so I don't see us getting one here.
 
Enjou said:
SLOT A - Year 2 (Explorator)
-Y5: Hyper Heavy Cruiser Design: Graviton
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So why are we spending Tranth's time on this? A short-range glass cannon is a very niche design with our present fleet and usual opponent (Orks). There are so many things Tranth could be doing. Designing Titans, getting the Gravitic Array working, figuring out stealth vehicles and if all else fails doing personal study with Technology Fundamentals. Pretty sure we could come up with a Basic tech for him to spend four years doing. Servitors or vox-casters perhaps.
 
Enjou said:
For ministorum, I don't see the need to triple down on the Chaos action. We likely only got a trait for Nurgle because of that added bonus the Eldar gave us, so I don't see us getting one here.
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Eh, maybe maybe not.

A relatively complete understanding of chaos in its entirety seems trait worthy, but eh.

Though for the future I'm wondering maybe asking Areatha if she can give us some means of contacting the local Deep One.

Basically a way of ensuring that instead or randomly eating millions of our peeps we can come to some kind or arrangement...probably not, but worth considering.
 
@Enjou it is just not the chance for a trait but the chance for a critical success which would give us even more information about chaos. With his new trait Saint Lin would only have a 10 points less than when we did the Nurgle triple down. Even with not having the Eldar bonus.

We have 132 with a triple down. Minus 30 we have a 102 chance of success. Which would give us a better chance of getting a critical.
 
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Enjou said:
Not really sure what to do with that last slot. Maybe some basic science?
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we could do an advanced Ramilies design maybe? it's an extra 2 years, but it seems like it would be really useful.


Durin said:
Advanced Ramilies Design: Type- Archmagos Tranth has recently finished reverse engineering the Ramilies Starfort and has sketched out a few different ways that it could be improved with current technology. Both Fabricator-General Scott and he are able to turn these simple ideas into complete plans, though given the size of a Ramilies it will take some time. The current suggestions for a design are pure fortress, orbital defence station, forward operating base variant, and orbital artillery, though there maybe other possible purposes.

Time: 5 years.
Chance of Success: 10% (99% after bonuses)

Cost: 150,000,000 Thrones, 29,800,000 Material, 1,540,000 Promethium, 350,000 Advanced Material, 8,900 Exotic Material.
Reward: Designs for selected type of Advanced Ramilies Starfort
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I do really like the idea of advanced Ramillies designs. Though, I wonder if having Tranth do a study on nutrition/food would be worthwhile. I mean... everyone needs food. Its a basic staple of literally everyone and everything. Could potentially have Biologis help out with it too?
 
Doomed Wombat said:
The tech sharing in and of itself isn't really indicative to anyone, but the locals though.

It's more reasonable to assume that the Eldar just have big caches of STC tech and made everyone share, not that most of it came from some random polity out in the boonies from the backside of nowhere on the edge of the galaxy.

Bigger players can probably figure it out of course.
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It might be a good idea for someone to write an Omake about the Eldar anti-divination measures surrounding the conference.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
It's in the webway and only a few people are involved.
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I have rather strong doubts that the webway is somehow divination proof. resistent? sure....but I feel like it would still be worth it since it wouldent even cost us anything except the time taken to write it.

honestly...why does it seem like security is so underestimated in this quest? I don't care that we have good security, every *hint* of help is a very good thing, failure in the slightest way when it comes to info-sec is immediate insta-fail. it only takes the slightest leek in the slightest way for people to get interested in this whole thing....and the thing about security is that the offence has the advantage, period.
 
Tom Smith said:
I have rather strong doubts that the webway is somehow divination proof. resistent? sure....but I feel like it would still be worth it since it wouldent even cost us anything except the time taken to write it.
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It can keep gods out, it's hard to get better than that.

Rids can just about see in with permission, but yeah...permission.
 
huh, so i've been looking over the history of the ramiles option to try and find the description of the types, and it used to take 10 yeasr. we've gotten a lot better at tech since then. or does that represent tech priests picking away at it passively over time?
 
random_npc said:
huh, so i've been looking over the history of the ramiles option to try and find the description of the types, and it used to take 10 yeasr. we've gotten a lot better at tech since then. or does that represent tech priests picking away at it passively over time?
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No, we found R&D Super-Cognator STC in the lunar ruins.
Durin said:
R&D Super-Cognator STC (+10 to all Mechanicus research and design rolls, reduce Mechanicus research and design time, increase Mechanicus research and design costs)
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@Enjou I agree that Graviton HC is bad choice, anything other is better IMO. I personally would like Impaler fundamentals since it's only 4 years and anything that improves the main weapon of humanity is godsent.
 
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Okay administrative shake up flavor text is inconsistently recorded, so anyone choosing that might not know where we currently stand with that. started at 62.5% efficiency with a 40% success chance, decreasing 5% per success, in turn 103.

103, 1 success, and 1 crit success for 64% and 30%.

104, 1 success for 64.5% and 25%.

105, 1 success for 65% and 20%.

106, 1 crit success for 66% and 15%.

115, 2 successes for 67% and 5%

119, 1 success for 67.5% and 0%.

This should be where we stand currently. With 67.5% efficiency instead of 62.5% with a 0% natural success chance. With bonuses, we have a 30% chance on the first roll. No rerolls this turn, but 45% on a reroll.


@Durin
1) is our admin bonus currently 67.5%?
2) how high can it get?
 
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dragon said:
Okay administrative shake up flavor text is inconsistently recorded, so anyone choosing that might not know where we currently stand with that. started at 62.5% efficiency with a 40% success chance, decreasing 5% per success, in turn 103.

103, 1 success, and 1 crit success for 64% and 30%.

104, 1 success for 64.5% and 25%.

105, 1 success for 65% and 20%.

106, 1 crit success for 66% and 15%.

115, 2 successes for 67% and 5%

119, 1 success for 67.5% and 0%.

This should be where we stand currently. With 67.5% efficiency instead of 62.5% with a 0% natural success chance. With bonuses, we have a 30% chance on the first roll. No rerolls this turn, but 45% on a reroll.


@Durin
1) is our admin bonus currently 67.5%?
2) how high can it get?
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I bet as high as it wants to...its a soft-cap not a hard cap since its limited by the dice.
 
Tom Smith said:
I bet as high as it wants to...its a soft-cap not a hard cap since its limited by the dice.
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with double downs and rerolls,and triple downs(rotbart and signe doing the same project at the same time with a double down) that could be up to 76% before success isn't possible. even most of the trust governments have an admin bonus of 30%. they'd spend nearly 3 times as much resources on the same project. What magic is this?! does every functionary on midgaard take a bribe before filing a form? or maybe they file a dozen forms in triplicate and have a week long review process for every decision.
 
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dragon said:
with double downs and rerolls,and triple downs(rotbart and signe doing the same project at the same time with a double down) that could be up to 76% before success isn't possible. even most of the trust governments have an admin bonus of 30%. they'd spend nearly 3 times as much resources on the same project. What magic is this?! does every functionary on midgaard take a bribe before filing a form?
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No, but the forms probably go through a lot more people before reaching the right destination.

There's also probably some corruption, but not as much.
 
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