For now? Something like infantry climbs the Gargants and throw melts charges into them.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Presumably the blur comes when the planet mind gets involved as it assuredly had a hand in their creation.
Are the Sphinx aspects of the PM or are they something it created from the warp?
Maybe both to an extent.
I've switched out the militia training with "Implement (Testudo-class Guardian Tank): Planning". I picked this because all the Fel/Hel-series vehicles are things that require AdMech actions to build, based on the fact that Fabricator General Britton had to build them back in the day (though if @Durin tells us that's changed I could change to the Hellord for anti-Ork stuff) and because it's something that our enemies will likely have never dealt with before, so could provide us some interesting options. I imagine they'd be especially useful when approaching any fortified position, like an Ork Rok that's been landed.
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- Australia
@Durin, back here you said that we wouldn't get racial gods for 5k years or more, but I don't think you answered my other question. Can we locate minor non-racial Warp deities (such as a theoretical god of scribes or god of plumbing) for us to worship? (None are named in canon so they'd have to be OCs.)
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- madison
is there a reason your doing the guardian not the Harvester? it's a sup super heavy that specializes in horde hunting.
[X] Plan Enjou T103
Harvesters are already in use in the Skimmer Regiments.
- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
It seems the most important difference in the plans is the Divinations, so I gotta ask
Enjou-voters:
Why would you rather Divine on Valinor than the Waaagh?
Valinor's attack depends on and can be estimated from the Waaagh attack.
We have some idea of how much Valinor can throw at us, but no idea of what kind of Waaagh is incoming.
Divining on Valinor tells us what forces they have available, and that helps, but Divining on the Waaagh gives us better chances of entirely avoiding war for another good few turns by diverting the Waaagh toward Turoq.
What is your plan with that particular divination?
Enjou-voters:
Why would you rather Divine on Valinor than the Waaagh?
Valinor's attack depends on and can be estimated from the Waaagh attack.
We have some idea of how much Valinor can throw at us, but no idea of what kind of Waaagh is incoming.
Divining on Valinor tells us what forces they have available, and that helps, but Divining on the Waaagh gives us better chances of entirely avoiding war for another good few turns by diverting the Waaagh toward Turoq.
What is your plan with that particular divination?
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- madison
that is a very good reason.
No it does not. You are speculating and until Durin says different that's all it is.
- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
What doesn't what?
There are only 40 in each regiment, and a whole lot more other tanks that aren't as suited against hordes of ork infantry. We could use more of them.
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You are speculating on that diving the Waagh can help it stop it. We have no data that correlate that. So until we do I am going with Valinor since they have been planning to kill Saint Lin for centuries.
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- The Bayou, Everglades
True, but qualified speculation.
It seems logical enough that you should know what you are dealing with to better manipulate it. Not stop it, but turn it to where it will either attack Turoq, or at least attack us instead of Toguzak's old domain, which we all agree is preferable.
And right now we don't even know if it's an Ork fleet or domain.
But we do in-character figure that they will attack when the Trust is engaged in other conflicts, which makes sense. And the Order of Omens only divined an Ork attack, which indicates quite substantially that the Waaagh will attack before Valinor.
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- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The Orcs are a major unknown threat. We don't know where they're heading, what there plan is... we need to learn about them first, absolutely, because simply where they end up by itself will have *massive* implications on what the next ten years will look like.
Until Durin says something it is just speculation. Has Durin even said we can divert it?
We don't have any clue how big the Crusade Fleet is, because it came from elsewhere. It's not based only on Valinor's forces. The Crusade Fleet is another group they called in for elsewhere, and is likely quite big.
We don't really want to divert the Waaagh unless wherever we divert it will definitely kill it. Turoq's princedom isn't on it's likely path as far as I know and they may not be able to stand up to it (if they aren't then it'll be bigger when they leave), and we don't want it to go to Tugozak's old domain because that will just end up making it bigger when it does hit us. It's probably better if they do hit the Gehenna sub-sector first.
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- The Bayou, Everglades
He said our chances of diverting it toward Valinor were bad. Not impossible, and Turoq is to our side, rather than behind us, from the Waaagh position. So it seems logical that there is at least a chance that we can divert it to Turoq, and probably a better than "bad" chance.
Has he said we can divert it to Turoq? Also I got to say trying to out maneuver a realm beholden to Tzeech, the chances are not high. I don't like Tzeech but he is good at intrigue and plots.
Probably even better for us, we keep our forces on standby, wait for Turoq to fall then descend to kill off the surviving Orks BEFORE they fatten themselves on the loot and clay.
If we can divert it to a chaos polity we should, that way we can swoop in and kill off the survivors.
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- The Bayou, Everglades
Not big enough that they wouldn't rather wait till we're fighting Orks, judging by their current passivity.
Sure, if we give them time to grow stronger. We don't have to do that, we could also attack that Waaagh before they rebuild and repopulate after a Turoq-Ork war, or even before they're done fighting that war. We could potentially get rid of two enemies, here.
Yeah, that.
No, but is my logic wrong?
[edit] We could try asking Durin again? Maybe he just missed my question when I asked. But you guys do it this time!
Won't know if you can if you never try.
Also, I'm tired of writing "unknown Waaagh", or just "Waaagh" like those in Toguzak's aren't also waaaghs. Let's give it a name.
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Just refer to it as the Beast or a Beast.
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- madison
by the way, is their a list of what we have implemented anywhere? I didn't see such a list on the Current Military Forces page, and not every unit type says what they use.
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