huh. could rhaenyra study a bit in the citadel if she wanted? it would certainly be easier now than it would before. what would we even want links (or at least their equivalent level of knowledge) for.
warcraft? i liked the Johanna suggestion more tho.
more law, somehow?
stewardship, to help with the RTA or other finance ventures?
 
Alicent might have an easier time as a septa and Hightower. I'm not sure if you can check out books maybe have copies made for Rhaenyra. Maybe Alicent can figure out paper and a printing press at the very least Yi-Ti would have their own version she start from.
 
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Alicent might have an easier time as a septa and Hightower.
Former Hightower, and even acknowledging that in any capacity is sketchy. Septons, Septas, and Maesters renounce their names and connections to their families.

Anyway, if we need a catspaw Maester to check out, copy, or smuggle something of the Citadel's, we have one: he lives on Dragonstone and while we haven't met him yet we have been told he is loyal to House Targaryen.
 
They're supposed to leave their names yes but I have no doubt they don't do so completely. You know type of thing where those with noble backgrounds end up in noble household. It's not blatant but like if there's an option between equally talented maesters the one with the noble background is going to be chosen to serve a noble house. Also house Hightower gives a good deal of money to the Citadel and the faith.

I don't think Rhaenyra needs a catspaw to get books copies from the Citadel. It would probably just be easier to have Alicent to do it. Besides the Crone convent she's going to is all about knowledge they probably have some really interesting books squirreled away.
 
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They're supposed to leave their names yes but I have no doubt they don't do so completely. You know type of thing where those with noble backgrounds end up in noble household. It's not blatant but like if there's an option between equally talented maesters the one with the noble background is going to be chosen to serve a noble house. Also house Hightower gives a good deal of money to the Citadel and the faith.
This is also something commonly speculated in universe, with Manderly worried about his master who was born a Lannister of Lannisport, or Barbrey Dustin complaining about "grey rats". We see the same social dynamics in the night's watch, which even selects its leaders democratically, yet somehow almost always land on someone with a notable name and/or notable lineage.
 
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If even in the Wall people can't escape nepotism, it's curious how LC election formed as institution. And how it doesn't exclude lowborn explicitly anywhere.
 
If even in the Wall people can't escape nepotism, it's curious how LC election formed as institution. And how it doesn't exclude lowborn explicitly anywhere.
My guess is that was initially more analagous to an elected monarchy back when the Watch recruited from all seven kingdoms, was seen as honorable and necessary, and was massively more filled with nobility. That means a lot of nobles, often from opposite sides of wars and feuds, who all need to set aside their differences to protect everyone fron the Others. It's easy to imagine early knights and lords hammering out the Nights Watch bylogs as a compromise to keep things stable, never imagining that it would eventually mean Hobb the cook having a legitimate shot at becoming Lord Commander.
 
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I'm finally caught up at last, I can vote, and contribute. This is such an amazing quest, most burn out in less than a thousand words. Kudos! Anyway, I think that a moderately extensive literacy campaign is a solid idea, off the top of my head.
 
If even in the Wall people can't escape nepotism, it's curious how LC election formed as institution. And how it doesn't exclude lowborn explicitly anywhere.
It should be noted that noblemen who go to the Watch mostly come in two types: disgraced failures on the one hand, and idealistic Northmen who actually care about the Night Watch's mission and joined the Night Watch even though they could have chosen not to.

The latter are really good candidates for Lord Commander, for two main reasons:

1) Unlike most lowborn people, they probably benefited from training not only in personal combat but in military strategy and administration in their youth.
2) They have specifically given up a probable life of prestige and privilege if not necessarily extreme wealth (as they are often younger sons and the North is not a rich reason)

It isn't surprising to me that nobles win most of the elections among the Night Watch even if they aren't the only ones who can run.
 
As for where the voting came from, I'll point out that many First Men cultures we've seen included some degree of democracy/group consensus. It's entirely plausible that it has it's roots in such cultures.
 
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