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I believe Joanna as a new mother wouldn't want any dragons near her newborn twins. But yes, from that perspective baby dragons are better than big dragons.
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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
Somic
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On the other hand, this is Westeros. Dragons are THE SHIT. Sure, from a safety standpoint, fire-breathing lizards near infants are bad... but those lizards will grow into some of the awesomest status symbols, weapons, fastest known mounts, and devoted partners. Surely Johanna will want them for her children?
Although she wanted a daughter to bond with over womanly things... I wonder if her being a cat lady would help relate to someone who's raising a baby dragon at all.
Although she wanted a daughter to bond with over womanly things... I wonder if her being a cat lady would help relate to someone who's raising a baby dragon at all.
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Maybe until the baby dragons starts breathing fire, so a month or two.
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It does bear remembering that Johanna voluntarily married a Targaryen king.
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have done that if she didn't have the aspiration that one day her children would be dragon-riding princes and/or princesses, and the hope that maybe one of them would be a king. It's very rare for someone to willingly approach a royal marriage without that kind of ambition.
And while we can say several things against Johanna, she has a fierce streak, too.
So she may be less against this kind of thing than we'd expect.
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have done that if she didn't have the aspiration that one day her children would be dragon-riding princes and/or princesses, and the hope that maybe one of them would be a king. It's very rare for someone to willingly approach a royal marriage without that kind of ambition.
And while we can say several things against Johanna, she has a fierce streak, too.
So she may be less against this kind of thing than we'd expect.
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...how is it a matter of culture? This is a time when dragon eggs still hatched, and the hatchling would bond to the child. So in other words, whose mother wouldn't want a dragon for their child? Especially a politically astute mother thinking about the future status of their child, so, basically, all the intelligent ones.
And having an egg in the cribb is even the safer way to do it - approaching an adult dragon in order to bond with it has way more risks. As demonstrated by Aemond.
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In fairness, I can easily imagine some intelligent mother who (for instance) doesn't understand dragons well or doesn't trust the know-how of people who say they understand them, and who just sees a fire-breathing reptile with sharp teeth and claws and doesn't want that near a baby because normally you would NOT let a not-yet-properly-tamed animal near a baby.
We generally think of dogs as quite well-behaved and domesticated creatures compared to, say, a firebreathing dragon.
But babies and toddlers are killed every year in the United States by dog attacks, and anyone with sense is going to make sure there's close supervision of both the dog and the child if the two are together in the same space. Because the dog is still an animal and may not react with perfect predictability.
It's not inherently 'stupid' to think that it's dangerous putting a baby dragon in with a baby human.
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Somic
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Also, a bonded dragon is probably the only source of hard power that isn't male-coded. People look down on women who try to fight for themselves or command troops, but female dragonriders aren't seen as strange at all, even though they command immensely powerful warbeasts. I don't know if that's something Johanna thinks of or cares about, but if I were in her place, I would.
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That's something people keep forgetting. Even getting those eggs requires Viserys permission. Also eating the stress gained from willingly interacting with Johannas kids
Somic
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Just curious, is it stressful because Rhaenyra can't bring herself to see them as siblings yet and pretending to is a constant effort, because Johanna the raging homophobe is gonna be there with them, or something else?
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The first one mainly. Even beyond any male children, if Johanna has any, being a massive threat to her position. Rhaenyra is gonna start off very much not thinking of any of her half siblings as family and changing that will require stressful work. This is one of those character traits from canon that would always be part of Rhaenyra no matter what route you took . Canon Rhaenyra held aegon in contempt even as a baby
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Ugggh.
I'm just going to say it:
If we don't find some way to make a very solid alliance with the Velaryons despite Daemon being more against us than for us unlike in canon, and if we don't invest the effort to come to some kind of positive arrangement with Johanna's kids, we are screwed, because we're going to get hammer-and-anviled between the two factions in a civil war. The Velaryons will figure out something like marrying one of their grandkids to one of Johanna's kids, back the resulting royal couple, and squeeze us off the throne by sheer bulk and dragonriders.
I'm just going to say it:
If we don't find some way to make a very solid alliance with the Velaryons despite Daemon being more against us than for us unlike in canon, and if we don't invest the effort to come to some kind of positive arrangement with Johanna's kids, we are screwed, because we're going to get hammer-and-anviled between the two factions in a civil war. The Velaryons will figure out something like marrying one of their grandkids to one of Johanna's kids, back the resulting royal couple, and squeeze us off the throne by sheer bulk and dragonriders.
Well, then lets eat some stress, befriend our half-siblings and then de-stress by doing some courtly romance with our lady.
It would be good if the relationships between the family don't reach the levels of abject hatred than they reached in canon.
It would be good if the relationships between the family don't reach the levels of abject hatred than they reached in canon.
Somic
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I'm all for making a sincere best attempt to bond with our half-siblings. Allies are necessary, good vibes in family are important, and I'll be happy if we stick it to the prophecy by not rejecting the girl we named. The Stress is worrying because we just got Diligent, which (apologies if I got it wrong, I'm not familiar with the CK system) would make relaxation less relaxing for us, so we'll only have other people's support and an occasional achievement as a source of Stress reduction. So far we never needed to take an action off though...
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Yeah that's something people sometime forget about Sunfyre. Despite being little more than a baby during the Dance he ends up having more kills than any dragon during the dance other than Vhagar: Grey Ghost, Moondancer, and depending on how you split Meleys may even equal Vhagar. That's on top of being the most beautiful and steadfast of all Targaryen dragons. He's even noted to be large for his age. Had he managed to live past the Dance he would have eventually grown into a dragon to surpass even The Black Dread.
If our kids can't bond with one of the older, larger dragons I'd definitely want Sunfyre for them.
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Though I'd be surprised if our GM would allow such metagaming. There might be a good chance that all the dragons hatched after the game has started (coming up soon or already hatched at this point in canon: Sunfyre, Tessarion, Vermax, Tyraxes) might be different as part of the different fate we have weaved or whatever - or indeed to avoid metagaming.
We should definitely make an attempt. But we should always plan on the assumption of our plans not working out, and besides, just because we are working on that doesn't stop us from also engaging the other front.
I.e., just because we try to make nice with the little Targlings doesn't mean we shouldn't also try to make nice with the Seahorsies.
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I feel that we have been kinda neglecting syrax. Especially with the wall, we might want to spend an action with her soon, if nothing too interesting or too important comes up.
Agree, if there isn't anything too important to take priority, we should invest some actions in Syrax and studying dragonlore.
A question, why isn't our Shadowcat cloak in our character sheet? It seems like the type of item we should have there.
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Somic
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My main priorities at this time are:
- social: scouting out the whole marriage thing, especially Alicent's opinion, and preferably get to know Qoren if it's possible at all, maybe through letters (I'm just really curious about him)
- actions: get on with the law training with Lyonel that we had committed to, especially since we're now Diligent
- social: scouting out the whole marriage thing, especially Alicent's opinion, and preferably get to know Qoren if it's possible at all, maybe through letters (I'm just really curious about him)
- actions: get on with the law training with Lyonel that we had committed to, especially since we're now Diligent
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Hey teen spirit, I think it's reasonable to assume that bonding with Syrax each time should lower rhaenyra's stress around by maybe -5 on her total stress levels. As dragon riders love flying and bonding with their dragons. 
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Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Eh. You don't need metagaming to be able to note that Sunfyre is a juvenile dragon without a bonded rider who grows quickly for his age and is incredibly beautiful. Depending on things Sunfyre might not even be as good a fighter or be as steadfast a dragon if our child doesn't bond with it as well as Aegon II did in canon.
A question, are the Golden Dragons really that important to keep track of?
We are the Princess of Dragonstone, and i imagine that the income from our fief will be much higher than the prize from the Tourney. So we aren't exactly lacking in money, our budget should be big enough that keeping track of it would be rather abstract.
Or at least, that is what i imagined.
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Eh, Dragonstone's value lies mostly in the in-kind taxes its smallfolk provide, the service those lords sworn to it provide, and the dragons that may be found there over the income in coin it can give us—especially since we could basocally only get coin from port tolls and these are being hoovered up by Driftmark in preference to Dragonstone. Even after Isembard's schemes start bearing fruit, that silver will come from King's Landing. So I'm happy our liquid assets are being tracked separately.
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CharlieKing
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speaking of money, i would like to put forward my idea of getting Alicent and Rhaenyra matching jewelry ☺️
they don't necessarily need to be the exact same, it can be a matching motif or engraving. i particularly like a silver falcon as a theme, so it's also a commemorative of both of them achieving a childhood dream together.
my only doubt is how obvious that would be. we can prooooobably pass it off in a "matching jewelry with my bestie 😇" way, right?
they don't necessarily need to be the exact same, it can be a matching motif or engraving. i particularly like a silver falcon as a theme, so it's also a commemorative of both of them achieving a childhood dream together.
my only doubt is how obvious that would be. we can prooooobably pass it off in a "matching jewelry with my bestie 😇" way, right?
Firefly and Dragonfly jewelery set.