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The Firestorm: A crossover invasion game. Looking for a 40k faction player.

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KnightofTempest said:
No. You don't understand, 9.72 square kilometers is the blast wave for a nagasaki type bomb, all buildings in that area would be flattened.

As to Radiation, magic is not a guaranteed protection, you don't know how they are running it, it could actually be MORE harmful in that it's the same type of radiation the Sun puts out. . .
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Okay first I wasn't talking about the Nuke in that post, that was for cannons which is a different subject. Besides the radiation bit the only part relating to nukes is the bit asking if my doom fortress would count as a hard target.

Also while the destructive power of the Nagisaki bomb is impressive we should keep in mind that a vast majority of the buildings destroyed were civilian structures that weren't designed to withstand any sort of blast. Now i'm not saying that odds are things at the center of the blast would be destroyed i'm just saying that we should keep in mind the things that were hit by the bomb, like @willyvereb said nukes aren't that good against hard targets.
 
willyvereb said:
Bunkers, tanks and so on.
24-pounder cannons are actually quite heavy caliber in general. Sure, not the strongest gun you can bear but these were used to pierce thick stone walls.
Well, in that case I guess you can withstand a multi-megaton blast from a kilometer away or so. Perhaps from a bit further to be safe.
As for radiation your daemons are still kinda organic so they would feel it but you have superhuman toughness combined with healing factor or restorative magics. I think you can handle any but the worst dosage.

No, it didn't. It didn't just level all buildings. It did leave a sizable crater (maybe a hunded meters wide?) and also melted steel in the vicinity but at 1.5 kilometers away you would at worst be knocked on the floor and suffer some internal injuries. And if you are lucky the blastwave was long dampened by some other objects along the way.
Seriously, you should do some research on this thing. You spout a lot of crap without understanding what are you talking about.
Just because nukes use nuclear energy that doesn't give them magical sunlight-based powers. Nor the Warcraft-verse demons are weak against sunlight in particular.
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I did, I looked up the various ranges on nukemap. . .

Also as I said, you don't know how the mod is running radiation, it could very well interfere with magic. . .
 
Fortresses are kinda hard targets albeit it depends on the design. I suppose magic-enhanced stone walls are at least on par with reinforced concrete. So yeah, those things would resist overpressure at least ten to hundreds of times more than what an average building can take.
A modern bunker can withstand as much as 2000 PSI or above.
 
KnightofTempest said:
I did, I looked up the various ranges on nukemap. . .

Also as I said, you don't know how the mod is running radiation, it could very well interfere with magic. . .
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Nukemap is the equivalent of learning the ABC on this subject.
Let's just say that the overpressure values over the range are kinda optimistic and also it's less about flattening buildings and more about a "strong gust of wind making buildings collapse" at the end of the said range.
Inverse square law while don't exactly apply for nukes detonated in the atmosphere they seriously lose their power as you get further away from the epicenter.
As I said any even remotely decent post-WW2 tank can withstand the blastwave of the nukes at some hundreds of meters away, depending on the yield of the weapon.
 
Oh no. We're not back to the nuclear topic are we?

I will let MUTO's sort you if you guys are.
 
I can't remember the name of it right now, but wasn't there a fictional world where a alien race basically watched over earth, and if any force tried to use nukes they would just be precision sniped by orbital alien drones?

Does anybody know what I'm talking about here? Google's turning up nothing. Must have been obscure or something.

Maybe I just dreamed it....
 
I don't know guys. The legion is pretty badass.


I mean, He's basically got stealth titans. I can't even begin to count the amount of times I've been snuck up on and one shotted by a skyscraper sized Fel-Reaver.
 
He may be boasting, but it's not idle boasts, from a fluff perspective or from a game mechanics perspective. If every side has a roughly equal chance of winning, that the legion, which has traded in the ability to make friends and most of its research ability, does have a reasonable chance of steamrolling everything with it's starting techs.
 
mr_stibbons said:
He may be boasting, but it's not idle boasts, from a fluff perspective or from a game mechanics perspective. If every side has a roughly equal chance of winning, that the legion, which has traded in the ability to make friends and most of its research ability, does have a reasonable chance of steamrolling everything with it's starting techs.
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Then why play?

I took a downgrade to play to something @Mental Omega and myself could have more fun with...

Being steamrolled isn't fun...
 
The Legion has its own disadvantages. If it took any of our factions now, one on one, no outside factors, it'd probably win, by virtue of sheer, overwhelming force. But none of us are next to each other(except for groups that are allied) so that's not a factor.

But the tradeoff for all that force is that the Legion really cannot do diplomacy like a non-Only War faction can. It can't go around, asking neutral powers to join in, it can't call for help from bigger powers it might have befriended, and everyone in the general area is gonna hate them on principle. It can manipulate, certainly, but it can't do open diplomacy like other groups can.
 
MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
Then why play?

I took a downgrade to play to something @Mental Omega and myself could have more fun with...

Being steamrolled isn't fun...
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Why play an only war faction if any of the major powers will squash you flat?

I'm not running this game, but i'd think that whatever approach you want to take with this game, the GM's won't demolish you for trying to play to your faction's gameplan. I'm sure at this point anyone within three dozen hexes of Sinsystems knows exactly where they are and what they signed up for.
 
I tend to think that Sinsystems is going to do well enough for himself before running into Sylvanus or the Lizardfolk Empire and getting swatted back. Apparently the major NPC's are no joke. . .
 
Dust and echoes said:
I can't remember the name of it right now, but wasn't there a fictional world where a alien race basically watched over earth, and if any force tried to use nukes they would just be precision sniped by orbital alien drones?

Does anybody know what I'm talking about here? Google's turning up nothing. Must have been obscure or something.

Maybe I just dreamed it....
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That sounds like the plot of one of the NRPs I play on a different site.
Basically some world war or whatever devastated Earth but civilization gradually rebuilt in thousands of years. Yet there are still a network of intelligent anti-nuke satellites out there which destroy any nuclear bomb before they'd detonate.

KnightofTempest said:
He keeps boasting about how badass his guys are and we are trying to tell him that there are factions out there that would take him out with no trouble. . .
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Well, it's mildly annoying and it's interesting how some players even actually bought his propaganda but as others said he's just one player with a particular set of perks/drawbacks.
It doesn't hurt to be careful but really the only way he can become a threat is long term.
He's just a "kid" excited at what kind of things his new toy can do. I also tend to do that in certain games, especially when I crunch numbers and try designing technologies for my NRP faction.
 
Mwah hah hah! None of you can beat me! For I have fuel Air explosives that work underwater! (No, seriously. My "natch" perk means I actually can do that. It's hilarious.)

But more seriously, I would be steamrolled by the... Anyone who has enough underwater forces. Which is none of the PCs currently, but still. If the legion started invading we would probably die, due to the fact we would start with negotiations. *shakes head* It's too funny.
 
Estro said:
Mwah hah hah! None of you can beat me! For I have fuel Air explosives that work underwater! (No, seriously. My "natch" perk means I actually can do that. It's hilarious.)

But more seriously, I would be steamrolled by the... Anyone who has enough underwater forces. Which is none of the PCs currently, but still. If the legion started invading we would probably die, due to the fact we would start with negotiations. *shakes head* It's too funny.
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As its nbame implies you can't use fuel air explosives underwater.
Albeit you may have developed a strictly underwater variant which mixes explosives into the water prior to detonating over a larger than normal AoE.
 
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