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The Firestorm: A crossover invasion game. Looking for a 40k faction player.

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ChineseDrone said:
Would the Technocratic Union from Mage the Ascension be an acceptable faction? It's going to involve some number fudging given that the nature of the organization doesn't led itself to the organization chart in the OP (MUCH less civilians and infantry, MUCH more elite infantry.)
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We're going to get along just fine. . .I basically use Superscience for my stuff which meshes well with your paradigm
 
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Dieselpunk is basically using WW2-ish tech for weird sci-fi effects. Just like how in steampunk steam engines can solve everything in dieselpunk internal combustion engines often have similar role, thought not so exclusively.
If you want me to describe it in one sentence:
"Dieselpunk is a sci-fi work deliberately made in design style, ideas and scientific theories popular from 1920 to 1940s."
 
Estro said:
What about living underwater? And fish men! Made entirely by surgery, no stupid magic involved.

Diesel doesn't have enough energy density to do half the stuff you make it do. Tsk, tsk.
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That's because we don't use diesel. You see in 1907 a meteor crashed into tunguska russia, bringing with it previously unknown elements that allowed for numerous technologies to be developed. These elements were studied over time and we can now synthesize them. One of them can be fed into a diesel engine and produce 10 times the energy of diesel for example
 
KnightofTempest said:
That's because we don't use diesel. You see in 1907 a meteor crashed into tunguska russia, bringing with it previously unknown elements that allowed for numerous technologies to be developed. These elements were studied over time and we can now synthesize them. One of them can be fed into a diesel engine and produce 10 times the energy of diesel for example
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Then the Technocrats hate you for using non real elements. You see, we know all the elements up to 118, and any ones past that gave half lifes so short that it doesn't matter.
 
Estro said:
More bleeding Etherites, probably.
Unless you have some really convincing about nanotech and energy stored in chemical bonds. I only really know Tyberium by osmosis though.
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What about elements that are changed via exotic radiation (IE Fel Energy) into a previously unknown form (IE turning normal iron into the stronger Fel Iron)
 
Sinsystems said:
What about elements that are changed via exotic radiation (IE Fel Energy) into a previously unknown form (IE turning normal iron into the stronger Fel Iron)
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Well, if it is done with enough reasoning into the consensus... Like: "This radiation enables the transformation of the usual d-phase crystal structure into the vastly stronger ä-phase. Only this type of radiation works as it creates covalent bonds within the normal delocalized macrostructure by reducing the enthalpy of formation in atoms it hits, by utilizing the properties of spin and aligning the spin of each electron to create a covalent bond."

But, probly not! Technocrats be hating anything with destroys their consensus... Which means they'll like my faction, a nice stable base of consensus to utilize. Heh.
 
KnightofTempest said:
It can all be explained via regular physics though. Which is within the Consensus. . .
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No, regular physics says "these are the elements, more exist but will never exist in quantity at all, due to the fact that a gram of them will take about ... Oh, use 118 as base.... Less than a second to decay. Roughly. " which means that you don't get any special elements.
 
KnightofTempest said:
That's because we don't use diesel. You see in 1907 a meteor crashed into tunguska russia, bringing with it previously unknown elements that allowed for numerous technologies to be developed. These elements were studied over time and we can now synthesize them. One of them can be fed into a diesel engine and produce 10 times the energy of diesel for example
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Yep, definitely RD.

Estro said:
What about living underwater? And fish men! Made entirely by surgery, no stupid magic involved.
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Oh, yeah, sure that's fine. It's basically a middle school Progenitor science project

Estro said:
Then the Technocrats hate you for using non real elements. You see, we know all the elements up to 118, and any ones past that gave half lifes so short that it doesn't matter.
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Eh, the Union has some elements beyond 118. But Knight has the wrong elements beyond 118. So it's wrong.

MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
How would they feel about Tyberium, and it's bullshit?
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Something something exotic matter something something metamaterial nanobiotech something something acceptable, if meriting further examination.

Some elements of the GDI's tech are questionable, but nothing is inherently reality deviant. You can be shown the light
 
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ChineseDrone said:
Yep, definitely RD. Prepare to crush.



Eh, the Union has some elements beyond 118. But Knight has the wrong elements beyond 118. So it's wrong.



Something something exotic matter something something metamaterial nanobiotech something something acceptable, if meriting further examination.

Some elements of the GDI's tech are questionable, but nothing is inherently reality deviant. You can be shown the light
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You like us though. Only odd surgical techniques that are totally possible...*in fifty years, coughs* and lots of people to make a nice friendly consensus you can base yourselves of.

And also, since the entire 'Cracy would be OP as jack, you can just be a medium sized group separated from the rest by the avatar storm.
 
Estro said:
You like us though. Only odd surgical techniques that are totally possible...*in fifty years, coughs* and lots of people to make a nice friendly consensus you can base yourselves of.

And also, since the entire 'Cracy would be OP as jack, you can just be a medium sized group separated from the rest by the avatar storm.
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The entire Technocracy is... not that large, actually. 10K Enlightened scientists at most, three times that Extraordinary Citizens and about 100K sympathizers, max. Doing Technocrats in a particular umbral realm would give me a really small population.

I should note that I'm going for the Revised-era Technocracy here, so the really powerful Technocratic assets in space are not going to be brought along.
 
ChineseDrone said:
The entire Technocracy is... not that large, actually. 10K Enlightened scientists at most, three times that Extraordinary Citizens and about 100K sympathizers, max. Doing Technocrats in a particular umbral realm would give me a really small population.

I should note that I'm going for the Revised-era Technocracy here, so the really powerful Technocratic assets in space are not going to be brought along.
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Yeah, but each actual enlightened bastard is far too powerful. *Changeling salt increases* I jest, that seems to be a fine tier A.
 
Okay I am back now and will be examining sheets and answering questions.

@ChineseDrone

Sure, just use the ratios to increase elite infantry slots at the expense of civilian and basic infantry slots.
 
Notice to everyone, added the unit category of chaff infantry for those of you fond of horde factions.
 
Everyone's discussing whether a certain fictional element would be considered heresy by the Technomacy, and I'm just chilling here with a faction that routinely plays havoc with the laws of conservation of energy and matter. And that's just some of the Elite Troops.

Good ol' Mario-verse.
 
MrEgret said:
Everyone's discussing whether a certain fictional element would be considered heresy by the Technomacy, and I'm just chilling here with a faction that routinely plays havoc with the laws of conservation of energy and matter. And that's just some of the Elite Troops.

Good ol' Mario-verse.
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That's cause with you it's the simple matter of wether you are a Reality Deviant or a Reality Terrorist.

... Probably the latter.
 
Estro said:
That's cause with you it's the simple matter of wether you are a Reality Deviant or a Reality Terrorist.

... Probably the latter.
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Define Reality Terrorist. I know that Reality Deviant is code for a Mage that doesn't buy into the Technocracy's message, but the other term escapes me.
 
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