The Eldritch One (Celestial Forge)

My interpretation of Blank is that she can falsify information with something that would be possible, but not turn it into complete nonsense. The real question when it comes to interacting with Coil is if we're going with the dual simulation meat puppet model or if he actually splits and collapses reality. If it's the former, then Taylor will probably become completely unpredictable to Coil. His power wouldn't be actively sensing her, just predicting her, so it would auto-fail due to incomplete information. If it's the latter than Taylor gets to play merry hell with Coil's perceptions.
 
Does nobody read the informational thread marks?
I think it's more that we thought blank would change things. As my take on it is that as it's meant to stop precog/postcog it works via fiat to do what the perk says. In fact it was added specifically in the worm cyoas to deal with Coil/Contessa and mentions them no longer getting data from you. On the otherhand it's your story and you are running what seems to be a very loose use of perks to interact with powers in the rule of cool manner. People that specifically only allow for notifications for main story threadmarks won't know to read the info posts either. I'm actually one of those and don't check until after I read the story posts.

Edit for clarification: Not saying to stop doing so, or even meaning for that to happen. I'm just explaining why (IMO) people seem to be theorizing it doing something to coils power.
 
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Does nobody read the informational thread marks?
Well I just did and the Threadmark for Coil's powers didn't go into enough detail to resolve the topic of a lot of conversations.

Speaking of which:
If you read in details, you can see that Taylor sees "fakeness" of timeline from start, it means that there is only ONE true timeline (main body of tree) with fake could-have-been branches.

Coil thinks that his both timelines are real, while in reality true timeline is always one and only...
Technically speaking, I think in this story he is actually making new timelines. If he was just a pre-cog being given a vision of the "fake" timeline, then Taylor shouldn't notice the effect at all. Her perk keeps her safe from timeline changes, which is activating to Coil's power, therefore he is actually messing with timelines here.
Timeline creation is outside Entity abilities. They are purely materialistic beings and need to use appropriate amount of energy for everything. So Coil IS precogs with bizarre user interface.
They have time travel.
The Entities specifically compiled a bunch of possible universes in one of the Interludes of Worm; I think that we can conclude from that that universes can be in Superpositions or that different universes are just a single universe that's in a Superposition or something to that effect.
 
Abilities which gather information about your past, present, or future do not work on you.
Lol, lmao even. The dice apparently decided that Coil deserved a heart "fuck you" this chapter, sweet.

Depends on if his power actually does create different timelines. If it alters physics around her it should still work. Blank doesn't block teleporting or a fire spell either.
As per WoG, Coil's power does not actually split reality, it functions just like any other precog power with regards to being a really, really accurate shard-powered simulation. Coil's power doesn't simply give you any future information directly the way that most precog powers do, which is probably why it's exempted from the usual blind-spots with regards to Eidolon, the Endbringers, Scion, Trigger Events and the like, but those restrictions are artificial anyways. Thus, seeing as Coil's power is mechanically just another form of precog (binary precognition, to use a specific term), this means that Blank Tier 2 will block it just like anything else, whether you consider Shard powers to be supernatural or just clarketech BS.
 
It feels really weird that she doesn't have a single crafting perk yet. I mean, that's like 90%+ of the perks in the Celestial Forge. Is this RNG at work, or are you intentionally avoiding crafting perks for some reason? If the latter, is this a permanent thing, or just a early story thing?

That aside, I am liking the story, even if none of the characters actually feel like themselves. I just hope this doesn't decide to go grimdark all of a sudden the way almost all stories in this setting do.

On a side note, I wonder if Behemoth can even do anything to her with the extensive nature of her various immunities and slime body. (This is a "topic of discussion" type question, not a "request for info from the author" question. Please don't answer if you're not speculating ;) )
 
Chapter 12: Team Shenanigans
"I see some new shoes here. Alec, is the new girl here so I can finally scare her off?" I look over to Lisa.

"Just don't hurt her dogs, okay? She loves them and we all use them as getaway vehicles."

"You seem remarkably unbothered by this."

"I also figured out you're a brute of some kind. You know, when you grabbed me lightning quick, and lifted me up like it was nothing." I roll my eyes in annoyance. Yeah, that was probably my fault. Stupid thinkers.

I hurry up and power walk over to the living room to see a heavyset butch girl with three big dogs just making it past the couch. She looks a little bit startled before steeling herself again.

"Hello-"

"Brutus. Hurt." As she lets go of one of the leashes. Oh my God, this bitch! Who sics a dog on their prospective teammates like this? I watch as that vicious looking pitbull snout comes flying towards me. I dodge to the side and shove it into the couch. Was that too easy? No matter, the other two dogs are on their way. I shove them apart to get to the lady behind them. She tries to punch me, but I'm able to flow to her side and hug her close to me with my arm around her back.

"Alec, get the fuck off the couch! Me and Bitch here have to have a talk." He valiantly pauses his game and starts stowing the remote out of the splash zone, and generally removing himself from the situation. An ordeal to be sure considering that Brutus and one of the other dogs already recovered and are currently trying to bite into me. I try to rectify that by flowing to the other side of her next to the couch while fending the dogs and not shifting my grip on Bitch. Doesn't work though. All that changes is where the dogs are coming from. Then I flip Bitch over the back of the couch and jump on top of her.

"Call off your stupid dogs before I'm forced to hurt them." She tries punching me as a snout bites at my arm. I catch the jaw and start to lightly squeeze on his tongue. He whines as I use him as a shield against the other two.

"Heel!!" They immediately calm down. Quick response time. I let go of the dog.

"There, was that so difficult?" She punches my face. I guess it was. I shift her first to my arm, twist it, and use that to wrench her into a sitting position beside me.

"I gotta say, you're really living down to your name Bitch. Care to tell me why you sicced your attack dog on me? That generally leaves a little bit more of a mark on someone than the sweet fuck all it did to me."

She mumbles something under her breath.

"What was that? I couldn't quite hear you."

"I said I didn't wanna split the money again!" Oh. Was it that simple? It's about this time that Alec comes back into the room with pants on. "And where were you!?"

"Hey, I voted to recruit her. Besides, I couldn't help you if I tried. She doesn't have a nervous system." I give him the side eye. Did they ever tell me what his power was? I look back over to Bitch.

"Are we going to have any more problems?"

"...No." I pat her on the back.

"Good!" I get up and go back over to Lisa. "What were we doing again?"

"Limited power testing." With a blank almost lost look on her face. "We can take a small break from that though. Wanna go get some ice cream?"



I'm sitting down in a small mom and pop shop enjoying a vanilla cone when Lisa suddenly gets all up in my face.

"What the fuck Taylor?!"

"Excuse me?"

"Why'd you suddenly start blocking my power?" I look around to see if anybody heard that. "Nobody's listening to us here. That wouldn't be the case back in the loft."

"Oh, uh... I didn't?" She stares at me very unimpressed.

"Hilarious. Now pull the other one."

"But I didn't."

"Hmm, then you wouldn't mind trying to retract any anti-thinker effects you have on you, would you?" I roll my eyes and made the barest effort to let her in to my non-existent defenses. She immediately goes crosseyed.

"See? You're delu-"

"Holy crap, you have no idea, do you?" I give her a flat look and then move to get up.

"No no, not like that. I wasn't trying to insult you honest. You just have no idea how your powers work, do you?" I stare at her for a second.

"Exactly, you have no idea how your powers work!" She looks around, probably to make sure we're still not being listened to, and whispers. "You're a Trump."

"...How so?"

"You're developing powers in response to tactics and powers used against you aren't you?"

"..." Well, maybe?

"I knew it! You got an anti-thinker defense! As soon as I started trying to analyze your power, mine stopped working on you. Probably got the slime form from the locker, seeing Coil's timelines from just living in the Bay, and the mouths from the trash talking bitches in school."

"..." But I didn't get the slime from the locker. And how in the everliving fuck would I have gotten the anti-matter factory under this theory?

"Okay so it's not perfect. Working theory, whatever. We can test it later. On that note will I ever have to worry about that thing you don't want me knowing about?"

"Never. I won't be using it."

"Well you say that now, but these things have a habit of coming out at the most inconvenient of times..." I roll my eyes.

"If we ever run into a situation where using it is the sensible option, we're already fucked, and I won't be able to do it anyways."

"Hmm, well let's go back to the loft. We have testing to do." I glare at her.

"I'm finishing this ice cream cone."



So apparently there's a lot more to my acid than meets the eye. What happens when I dissolve something is that I replicate the acidic properties of Hydrochloric acid with the chemical energy required to break up molecules appearing ex nihilo, and without any of that pesky need to wait between chemical reactions for the molecules to align. Most of the mass is released as carbon dioxide and water, with the remainder either being absorbed into my body, or excreted in some fashion. Any metal I gouge out with this technique is just displaced, same with most minerals. Lisa had me try and consciously shape the material I deposited with my chemical processes, and well... I made a few diamonds. Entirely on accident, I swear. Did it with a plank of wood Lisa got for testing purposes.

Apparently making crystal lattices is incredibly easy. We tried making a few other gemstones with a small chemical lab, but introducing impurities to the crystal lattice to make rubies or sapphires required finesse that needs more than a half hour of practice we had to achieve. One of them did come out slightly red though.

Next up was figuring out my mouths. As incredibly mortifying as it is to be effectively naked in front of another girl and living a twisted mockery of yourself is, she is correct in insisting that I need to be informed about everything my body is capable of. We started out testing with some food. I ate it from one of the mouths in my foot, and it dissolved like a sandwich usually does in my acid. We tried this with a lot of things. Then I tried eating two things at once from different mouths. Strawberries and pancakes so it wouldn't taste all that weird. Unfortunately things got weird regardless. They turned into some strawberries with the shape and consistency of pancakes. Looking at my belly while this happened gave her a headache. Also felt kinda weird while it was happening. Then she had me eat two cell phones. They merged into one. After she had me expell it she called it twice. Apparently it has both numbers now. Her headache grew worse when she looked through the menus.

The last thing she had me do was eat that same cell phone and a whole banana. Peeling and all. The phone worked afterwards. Still had both numbers. Then she peeled it and ate it. She collapsed into a heap a couple minutes after that. I thought she got food poisoning on account of eating an actual phone, but she insisted it was 'just' a crippling thinker headache.

Had to call Brian and explain the situation to him after she kicked me out. He was not amused. Apparently we were supposed to be sharing our powers and brainstorming new tactics to go with my addition to the team. Eugh. Settle down guy, a day or two isn't going to kill us.


AN: Sorry for the wait guys, was dealing with some personal issues
 
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Holy crap, you have no idea, do you?" I give her a flat look and then move to get up.

"No no, not like that. I wasn't trying to insult you honest. You just have no idea how your powers work, do you?" I stare at her for a second.

Oh, hey, a confidently wrong instruction manual powered by alien hyperdimensional ChatGPT! Nice find Taylor, she's definitely an upgrade over Literally Nothing(tm).

She collapsed into a heap a couple minutes after that. I thought she got food poisoning on account of eating an actual phone, but she insisted it was 'just' a crippling thinker headache.

Looks like she has a cooldown timer, though. ;)
 
An actual banana phone...

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
Banana phone
Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
Banana phone
I've got this feeling, so appealing
For us to get together and sing, sing!
 
Boop boop be do bo-boop!

Anyway, this continues to be one of the most fun Forge fics, mostly because of how unique it is, and how you don't ignore perks that don't fit the generic crafter theme.
 
"Brutus. Hurt." As she lets go of one of the leashes. Oh my God, this bitch! Who sics a dog on their prospective teammates like this? I watch as that vicious looking pitbull snout comes flying towards me. I dodge to the side and shove it into the couch. Was that too easy? No matter, the other two dogs are on their way. I shove them apart to get to the lady behind them. She tries to punch me, but I'm able to flow to her side and hug her close to me with my arm around her back.

"Alec, get the fuck off the couch! Me and Bitch here have to have a talk." He valiantly pauses his game and starts stowing the remote out of the splash zone, and generally removing himself from the situation. An ordeal to be sure considering that Brutus and one of the other dogs already recovered and are currently trying to bite into me. I try to rectify that by flowing to the other side of her next to the couch while fending the dogs and not shifting my grip on Bitch. Doesn't work though. All that changes is where the dogs are coming from. Then I flip Bitch over the back of the couch and jump on top of her.
I feel like I personally would have gone for the dogs necks, not to choke them but rather to just hold their heads so that they couldn't bite, and possibly shifted Rachel's legs into their mouths while they were going for mine; sort of try to trick them into biting her instead of myself.
"Are we going to have any more problems?"

"...No." I pat her on the back.

"Good!"
Probably the best way that Rachel could be handled.
"Hmm, then you wouldn't mind trying to retract any anti-thinker effects you have on you, would you?" I roll my eyes and made the barest effort to let her in to my non-existent defenses. She immediately goes crosseyed.
Ah so it can be deactivated. That or she's just projecting that she doesn't have Thinker-proofing; I think that that might do the job?

Edit: I honestly thought that Taylor was going to be locked out of crafting until she got [Queen] to do it for her.
So apparently there's a lot more to my acid than meets the eye. What happens when I dissolve something is that I replicate the acidic properties of Hydrochloric acid with the chemical energy required to break up molecules appearing ex nihilo, and without any of that pesky need to wait between chemical reactions for the molecules to align. Most of the mass is released as carbon dioxide and water, with the remainder either being absorbed into my body, or excreted in some fashion. Any metal I gouge out with this technique is just displaced, same with most minerals. Lisa had me try and consciously shape the material I deposited with my chemical processes, and well... I made a few diamonds. Entirely on accident, I swear. Did it with a plank of wood Lisa got for testing purposes.

Apparently making crystal lattices is incredibly easy. We tried making a few other gemstones with a small chemical lab, but introducing impurities to the crystal lattice to make rubies or sapphires required finesse that needs more than a half hour of practice we had to achieve. One of them did come out slightly red though.
I think that she might have just made pink diamond instead of ruby; Aluminium has three free bonds while Oxygen has two, which means that a Aluminium Oxide molecule is two Aluminium atoms with double-bonds to a Oxygen atom each and a single bond to a shared one, but the crystallography of Aluminium Oxide is kind of a bitch and a half to visualize. Oxide crystals in general, even Quartz, is probably a pain in the ass to assemble atomically.

Crystalizing pure elements like Silicon or Aluminium and Carbon and whatnot should be easy enough though.

Adding inclusions shouldn't be difficult though; they should be able to slot right into the cages of the molecular matrix.

Also I'd have expected her to have gotten some Lonsdaleite out of her experimentation; it's a crystalline Carbon allotrope after all. Lonsdaleite and some Graphine.

All in all diamonds produced this way wouldn't be too valuable anyway; artificial diamonds go for a lot cheaper then natural ones. Should be fun for her to bedazzle things with them though. That and to make some windows and shit out of; may as well if it's so ridiculously easy.

If Taylor really wanted to make some dosh though there's the road-Platinum from catalytic converters; apparently that stuff comes out to about six or seven grams of Platinum, a few hundred dollars worth of it, per ton; I recon that Taylor could get herself a decently sized ingot of the stuff.
Next up was figuring out my mouths. As incredibly mortifying as it is to be effectively naked in front of another girl and living a twisted mockery of yourself is, she is correct in insisting that I need to be informed about everything my body is capable of. We started out testing with some food. I ate it from one of the mouths in my foot, and it dissolved like a sandwich usually does in my acid. We tried this with a lot of things. Then I tried eating two things at once from different mouths. Strawberries and pancakes so it wouldn't taste all that weird. Unfortunately things got weird regardless. They turned into some strawberries with the shape and consistency of pancakes. Looking at my belly while this happened gave her a headache. Also felt kinda weird while it was happening. Then she had me eat two cell phones. They merged into one. After she had me expell it she called it twice. Apparently it has both numbers now. Her headache grew worse when she looked through the menus.

The last thing she had me do was eat that same cell phone and a whole banana. Peeling and all. The phone worked afterwards. Still had both numbers. Then she peeled it and ate it. She collapsed into a heap a couple minutes after that. I thought she got food poisoning on account of eating an actual phone, but she insisted it was 'just' a crippling thinker headache.
This, on the other hand, means that Taylor could pull some bullshit now that she's aware of the possibilities. Nanotubes combined with fabrics should be fun.

Fucking ate the composite phone. Weird-ass Thinker. She's going to give herself telephonesis or some shit.
 
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I think that she might have just made pink diamond instead of ruby; Aluminium has three free bonds while Oxygen has two, which means that a Aluminium Oxide molecule is two Aluminium atoms with double-bonds to a Oxygen atom each and a single bond to a shared one, but the crystallography of Aluminium Oxide is kind of a bitch and a half to visualize. Oxide crystals in general, even Quartz, is probably a pain in the ass to assemble atomically.

Crystalizing pure elements like Silicon or Aluminium and Carbon and whatnot should be easy enough though.

Adding inclusions shouldn't be difficult though; they should be able to slot right into the cages of the molecular matrix.

Also I'd have expected her to have gotten some Lonsdaleite out of her experimentation; it's a crystalline Carbon allotrope after all. Lonsdaleite and some Graphine.

All in all diamonds produced this way wouldn't be too valuable anyway; artificial diamonds go for a lot cheaper then natural ones. Should be fun for her to bedazzle things with them though. That and to make some windows and shit out of; may as well if it's so ridiculously easy.

I'm running it so that any uniform crystalline structure is easy to make due to how crystals form. What's throwing her off is purposely introducing impurities in a consistent manner. Or inconsistently depending on the crystal.

Local pawnshops will take a while to catch on to her diamond making scheme. And even then won't care as much as they would here considering how the international scene screwed with trade.

Finally, I'm not a chemist. I will make mistakes in that field. That said Taylor not making Lonsdaleite wasn't one of them. Diamond is an extremely simple crystalline lattice. Easiest to make out of carbon if you have magic chemical powers like Taylor here.
 
I'm running it so that any uniform crystalline structure is easy to make due to how crystals form. What's throwing her off is purposely introducing impurities in a consistent manner. Or inconsistently depending on the crystal.
Yeah those things do tessellate; it's just pinning down the tessellated shape that's the tricky part.

I don't believe that gem inclusions need to be inconsistent though; I'm sure that there's a pattern that Taylor could apply them in relative to the lattice.

Amorphous solids, glass of various kinds for instance, could be a pain in the ass if randomness is a issue; she might need to come up with a pseudo-amorphous repeating pattern instead.

Metals might also be a bit of a problem, because of the grain of/dislocations in their structure, but it'd probably be less of one; a pseudo-random pattern in a polycrystal is probably a lot easier then a pseudo-random pattern in a amorphous solid.
Local pawnshops will take a while to catch on to her diamond making scheme. And even then won't care as much as they would here considering how the international scene screwed with trade.
Any pawnshop taking jewelry at all is liable to be able to take a look and notice a unnatural lack of impurities; she'd be better off marketing them as synthetic diamonds; it's not as if people aren't buying those as well. Synthetic diamonds go for hundreds at the lower end and quickly get into the thousands.

Pearls might be a better way to do it if she can use Plentimaw mechanics to turn some low-quality ones into high-quality ones. Ain't nobody going to accuse you of synthesizing those.

Edit: relatedly the largest synthetic diamond is about the size of two fingers so Taylor could probably make a synthetic diamond more valuable then her entire city, probably would before learning of the more common sizes of the things, and the most that she'd be able to do with it would be to use it as a door-stop. I bet that Alec would get a kick out of a transparent gaming controller made out material more expensive then most houses.
Finally, I'm not a chemist. I will make mistakes in that field. That said Taylor not making Lonsdaleite wasn't one of them. Diamond is an extremely simple crystalline lattice. Easiest to make out of carbon if you have magic chemical powers like Taylor here.
Well, rather, the mistake was Taylor's since she thought that she was making a ruby.
 
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