The Eldritch One (Celestial Forge)
- Thread starter Optimal Robotics
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I'd laugh my ass off if Coil ended up dead through this. Piggot thought the attack was through her. Cauldron thought Coil was the person protecting that rouge so he needed to be killed. Piggot was purposely left alive though. Killing everyone is was more of a distraction though.
Now, lets work through things if Coil is dead. All those outside agencies will be coming looking for evidence to try going after the group that arranged this. Nearly everything local that they'd come across would be Coil plots/agents. Without him around, all that would be hanging in the wind to find.
Now, if Coil survived, he will be busy trying to preserve what he can of his network when every one else comes calling and does their massive audit/mole hunt.
I love it that all this is a side effect of one of Taylor's powers that she has little to no clue about.
Thinkers might be blind to her. But from what they know of her. She's a teen that can be talked into things by those she trusts. It wasn't that Lisa was a thinker. It was that she trusted her advice and just went with it.
Hmm, I could see Coil being killed as a method of cutting off the Undersider's support system. She might see without Coil around that the team implodes. Not taking into account that Taylor exists and all that.
Without Coil's money, the Undersiders might implode and merely scatter after a month or two. Then again if Tattletale had any idea that Coil was actually dead, she'd go after his money and loot what she could. I doubt she'd be able to control his setup, but she ought to be able to fund her team.
Now, lets work through things if Coil is dead. All those outside agencies will be coming looking for evidence to try going after the group that arranged this. Nearly everything local that they'd come across would be Coil plots/agents. Without him around, all that would be hanging in the wind to find.
Now, if Coil survived, he will be busy trying to preserve what he can of his network when every one else comes calling and does their massive audit/mole hunt.
I love it that all this is a side effect of one of Taylor's powers that she has little to no clue about.
Thinkers might be blind to her. But from what they know of her. She's a teen that can be talked into things by those she trusts. It wasn't that Lisa was a thinker. It was that she trusted her advice and just went with it.
Hmm, I could see Coil being killed as a method of cutting off the Undersider's support system. She might see without Coil around that the team implodes. Not taking into account that Taylor exists and all that.
Without Coil's money, the Undersiders might implode and merely scatter after a month or two. Then again if Tattletale had any idea that Coil was actually dead, she'd go after his money and loot what she could. I doubt she'd be able to control his setup, but she ought to be able to fund her team.
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KleverKil'Vanya
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I would like to point out that Piggot knows that this came AFTER she reported up the chain, so she can likely infer that it happened BECAUSE she reported it.
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- Earth
More proof that age doesn't always equal up to maturity. Though, I guess if I'd had to lean far too heavily on my powers giving me so called super intelligence, I'd be a pissy baby when things go wrong too.
Isn't she kept a permanent teenager thanks to her power? She literally can't mature past that since I'm pretty sure her neuroplasticity (ability for the brain to change) is shot, she is in effect just a very experienced teenager.
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- RS,brasil
This also is very bad if he doesn't get killed as now he is under massive scrutiny for "miraculously" not being there for the mass murder
This is also going to be a massive shit storm politically, as a police office being attacked is going to be news in the whole country, Piggot is now politically untouchable and RBC HAS to give her resources else she will look suspicious
Doubt that Emily would be that willing to give up on controlling a Parahuman, she's kind of even worse about being a collector then Heartbreaker, or punishing someone for messing with her Department's PR; controlling others and looking good are kind of her only two priorities.
That's got to have coincided with a bunch of other shit right?
You know you're really good at this if you're making me feel pity for the woman who arranged for a bombing run to take out allies under the truce against the Slaughterhouse Nine.
Would probably have been easier to shift blame onto some other patsy in the chain of command.Unfortunately, no chaos for you
We don't actually get to see all that much of the paper pushers in the PRT after Tagg. They're all just faceless assholes after that. So I'm gonna have to say that given how active Contessa is, the upper levels already know about her(or should). They just stick their heads in the sand about her and hush any news when she pops up because they can't do shit about her.
The only practical effect on Contessa's path is that Piggot's survival shifts all the blame onto her instead of having it disappear entirely. Nothing the path can't handle when she's already being covered for.
As for Taylor, who cares? She's just another brute really. Much less complicated than Eidolon to plan around. At least for now.
Easier to frame someone for the hit on them then to frame someone for the conspiracy they found?
The problem with the corrupted pathing is that had Contessa & Rebecca done nothing, there wouldn't be any problems. Piggot wouldn't have enough info to connect any dots, and she'd continue to be hung out to dry without having a clue as to how or why.
Now Piggot needs to figure out that her conversation with RBC directly led to her losing all of her senior staff to a sniper that could shoot through walls, and barely surviving herself. I'm waiting to see how she puts the info together and what result she gets. It'll be interesting no matter what direction she ends up going in.
Since Armsmaster was calling her, and he likely heard shots, he knows the timing and Piggot could never had predicted his call so she'd miss getting shot herself (ie: her hiring the sniper is now an impossibility). This puts her in the clear at least, but she's still got a lot of shit to figure out, and I'm afraid RBC is gonna force either crap people with no skills, or ones with enough skills to oust Piggot somehow.
Fun fun fun.
Now Piggot needs to figure out that her conversation with RBC directly led to her losing all of her senior staff to a sniper that could shoot through walls, and barely surviving herself. I'm waiting to see how she puts the info together and what result she gets. It'll be interesting no matter what direction she ends up going in.
Since Armsmaster was calling her, and he likely heard shots, he knows the timing and Piggot could never had predicted his call so she'd miss getting shot herself (ie: her hiring the sniper is now an impossibility). This puts her in the clear at least, but she's still got a lot of shit to figure out, and I'm afraid RBC is gonna force either crap people with no skills, or ones with enough skills to oust Piggot somehow.
Fun fun fun.
Path To Victory's Paths are rather glass-cannon-esque like that; Mantellum could fuck her up pretty hard.
Path was a quick one. Just to eliminate anybody who knows that PRT ENE is being sabotaged. The one survivor here is a problem, but not that much of one. Piggot still can't really do anything, and blame has been shifted to Contessa. This is not a loss condition for Contessa. In fact it is super easy to deal with. Barely an inconvenience.
Now there probably will be knock on effects there. I will not be going into them because this is a Taylor centric story. The consequences explored will be from Taylor's perspective.
No, it was an accident. Armsmaster called her with information about Taylor, but because Taylor is a blank space, that call could not be predicted, and Piggot managed to survive.
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- RS,brasil
I've been thinking that she really would benefit from a martial arts roll
Plenty mounts are still as strong as any other mouth she has, and human jaws are the strongest muscle in the human body
since she is capable of spawning hand anywhere she can make hands in her hands and feet and transition every strike into a bite, imagine an oblique kick with a jaw that is 20x stronger than a human one, it will literally bite your patella off your leg
that should be about the strength of a gorilla bite
I'm not certain how strong the mouths are, either as strong as her or a borderline annihilator power, like if she ate a piece of lung would the shard lose that piece because it was fused with something else? Like they definitely can't deal with the conceptual bulshit that is haroun and the sea of stories
She also has extra arms which make fighting her a nightmare already, no martial arts work when your target isn't human shapes
acid attacks mean that she can use slaps offensively better them most people, as you are switching direct force for acid spread
she would also be really good at learning martial arts as Stone Age Otaku, Librarian, One man Industry and Time Flies
in fact, it would stack very nicely, she would find the best martial arts teacher available, be incredibly receptive to repetition until she gets the moves perfect, and learn about it 50x faster she can get a black belt in two months
and she can probably learn it about it online if she managed to learn about calculus from a book, which with inertia of self she is not forgetting, as muscle memory is still a form of memory
a good use of her sleepless nights
Also, since she can make ANY fuel, does that mean she can make any liquid that can be used in an engine? Kerosene, alcohol, Ammonia? Promethium?
Like that goes for even stuff like canola oil, or bacon grease, or expensive butter and bone marrow, what is considered fuel varies WILDLY and can serve a ton of uses besides being fuel
fun fact silver powder is very flammable, which is a nice thing that Taylor would probably have liked to know
hell, diamonds are flammable now that I think about it
the Taydenite perk explicitly said it could be used to power spaceships, so it should also count, especially if she gives a sample to the machine
it's effectively a replicator for anything you could conceivably run an engine with =, which is a WIDE category
Plenty mounts are still as strong as any other mouth she has, and human jaws are the strongest muscle in the human body
since she is capable of spawning hand anywhere she can make hands in her hands and feet and transition every strike into a bite, imagine an oblique kick with a jaw that is 20x stronger than a human one, it will literally bite your patella off your leg
that should be about the strength of a gorilla bite
I'm not certain how strong the mouths are, either as strong as her or a borderline annihilator power, like if she ate a piece of lung would the shard lose that piece because it was fused with something else? Like they definitely can't deal with the conceptual bulshit that is haroun and the sea of stories
She also has extra arms which make fighting her a nightmare already, no martial arts work when your target isn't human shapes
acid attacks mean that she can use slaps offensively better them most people, as you are switching direct force for acid spread
she would also be really good at learning martial arts as Stone Age Otaku, Librarian, One man Industry and Time Flies
in fact, it would stack very nicely, she would find the best martial arts teacher available, be incredibly receptive to repetition until she gets the moves perfect, and learn about it 50x faster she can get a black belt in two months
and she can probably learn it about it online if she managed to learn about calculus from a book, which with inertia of self she is not forgetting, as muscle memory is still a form of memory
a good use of her sleepless nights
Also, since she can make ANY fuel, does that mean she can make any liquid that can be used in an engine? Kerosene, alcohol, Ammonia? Promethium?
Like that goes for even stuff like canola oil, or bacon grease, or expensive butter and bone marrow, what is considered fuel varies WILDLY and can serve a ton of uses besides being fuel
fun fact silver powder is very flammable, which is a nice thing that Taylor would probably have liked to know
hell, diamonds are flammable now that I think about it
the Taydenite perk explicitly said it could be used to power spaceships, so it should also count, especially if she gives a sample to the machine
it's effectively a replicator for anything you could conceivably run an engine with =, which is a WIDE category
- Location
- The Void
Who leaked the audio tapes and other information that the McCormicks tried to kidnap Taylor? Was it Faultline?
- Location
- RS,brasil
Some more implications:
all precious metals aside from gold are flammable and thus could be generated in powdered form as a fuel
Foods count as a Fuel for humans and other biological agents, or at the very least basic fat and sugar do
Alcohol production especially has a ton of potential, dilute it in water, let it sit with Flavorings and microwaved Oak chips and you have whiskey production
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4gjqQ-e-XQ
she can make those in 5 hours, or 73 days by simply leaving in a barrel
she can age other foods too, simply by letting them sit
cheeses also benefit from it, she can make the most aged cheese in just 70 days
she can age beef in 13 hours
she can make real balsamic in 90 days
she can make aged ham legs in 11 days that match Jamon Iberico
any wine she buys instantly becomes a vintage and can multiply in price
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_nvNZbn6Y
make kimchi in 2 hours
age soy sauce to increase its value
he can actually make GOOD money out of it, and make in large quantity, all she has to do is prepare the food, make the cheese, buy the wine, hang the meat, etc.
Especially since the process, with her perks, is entirely passive and just happening in the background
it's an entirely legal form of getting money
if she lived in NYC, the elite would have already gotten her in contact with several restaurants
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWauZQcv2U&t=38s
a lot of passive projects should also take her here, tree cultivations can take she can grow cabbages in 2 days, radishes in 20 hours, Corn in 44 hours
she can grow an apple seed into a fruit bearing tree in 50 days!
She can also bypass seed dormancy by waiting, so she can sprout back nearly immediately
like this woman's ability at agriculture is insane
Common magic also helps with this, she can combine plants into new crops, like bananas that taste like apples and vice versa
she can balance the PH of the soil manually, can fix any damage to nutrition of a crop suffered from agriculture, since as the magos biologis puts it organics are also machinery
Glove of the East can make the food tastier and more nutritious and make trees grow better
Factorio does have agriculture built into it, so she could definitely set up an automated farm, it's also one of the few things that she has that are entirely renewable
this also applies to Tractors from the Fast and Furious perk, especially since tractors are super easy to work on
honestly i would be entirely happy if Taylor opens a farm to table restaurant in BB, she really does deserve the ability to chill
all precious metals aside from gold are flammable and thus could be generated in powdered form as a fuel
Foods count as a Fuel for humans and other biological agents, or at the very least basic fat and sugar do
Alcohol production especially has a ton of potential, dilute it in water, let it sit with Flavorings and microwaved Oak chips and you have whiskey production
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4gjqQ-e-XQ
she can make those in 5 hours, or 73 days by simply leaving in a barrel
she can age other foods too, simply by letting them sit
cheeses also benefit from it, she can make the most aged cheese in just 70 days
she can age beef in 13 hours
she can make real balsamic in 90 days
she can make aged ham legs in 11 days that match Jamon Iberico
any wine she buys instantly becomes a vintage and can multiply in price
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_nvNZbn6Y
make kimchi in 2 hours
age soy sauce to increase its value
he can actually make GOOD money out of it, and make in large quantity, all she has to do is prepare the food, make the cheese, buy the wine, hang the meat, etc.
Especially since the process, with her perks, is entirely passive and just happening in the background
it's an entirely legal form of getting money
if she lived in NYC, the elite would have already gotten her in contact with several restaurants
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWauZQcv2U&t=38s
a lot of passive projects should also take her here, tree cultivations can take she can grow cabbages in 2 days, radishes in 20 hours, Corn in 44 hours
she can grow an apple seed into a fruit bearing tree in 50 days!
She can also bypass seed dormancy by waiting, so she can sprout back nearly immediately
like this woman's ability at agriculture is insane
Common magic also helps with this, she can combine plants into new crops, like bananas that taste like apples and vice versa
she can balance the PH of the soil manually, can fix any damage to nutrition of a crop suffered from agriculture, since as the magos biologis puts it organics are also machinery
Glove of the East can make the food tastier and more nutritious and make trees grow better
Factorio does have agriculture built into it, so she could definitely set up an automated farm, it's also one of the few things that she has that are entirely renewable
this also applies to Tractors from the Fast and Furious perk, especially since tractors are super easy to work on
honestly i would be entirely happy if Taylor opens a farm to table restaurant in BB, she really does deserve the ability to chill
Probably best that she need to have a engine capable of accepting new types of fuel before the Facility is willing to produce them.
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- RS,brasil
gasoline engines work with Alcohol already, so at least basic alcohol is possible immediately by getting any car
most vegetable oils work with a diesel engine
bacon grease is also possible because I have video of it working
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWZKbEETgXY
honestly, the amount of Fuels you can use in an internal combustion engine is kind of insane
Pretty much all combustible gasses, almost any flammable liquid with minimal change
Toyota announced an Ammonia engine in 2023
almost anything that burns can work on a small sterling engine
so two different car engines and one you could easily buy as a toy
I'm pretty sure that you need to be careful about the octane of the fuels you put into even a Diesel Engine, even if most oils can be blended with the right amounts of alcohol and possibly a few other additives to become a fuel with those octane levels, but if you really want a wide range of fuels you should go with a turbine engine; one adapted to use a Conical Screw Compressor is at all possible given the increased efficiency that is apparently inherent.
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- RS,brasil
True, but you are still loosing some solids, meanwhile a Stirling engine will literally run on any source of heat, technically you can make candles into the fuel maker, like full on beeswax
A wood powered car also could produce any wood, including exotic ones like ebony
Camel fat is technically usable in diesel engine and costs a fortune, like 50 bucks per pound
Metallic powders alse don't work on turbines I don't think, which would be a big source of income
A turbine engine is also kinda rare for a civilian vehicle her most economical option would be a RC model engine for that
Those are definetly watched for by Tinker detection tho, and potentially get in a fight with chariot for one as a plot hook
View: https://youtu.be/8Uuuv3XAn2c?si=3WiFDSxehZ0YjBOY
meanwhile a car will offer every fuel it can run with, even if it's bad for the engine, alcohol runs on gasoline cars, even of nor very good, and you can make it work with alcohol by changing one piece, she can modify any normal car to run on any fuel it can technically run with easy due to the fast and furious perk
A wood powered car also could produce any wood, including exotic ones like ebony
Camel fat is technically usable in diesel engine and costs a fortune, like 50 bucks per pound
Metallic powders alse don't work on turbines I don't think, which would be a big source of income
A turbine engine is also kinda rare for a civilian vehicle her most economical option would be a RC model engine for that
Those are definetly watched for by Tinker detection tho, and potentially get in a fight with chariot for one as a plot hook
View: https://youtu.be/8Uuuv3XAn2c?si=3WiFDSxehZ0YjBOY
meanwhile a car will offer every fuel it can run with, even if it's bad for the engine, alcohol runs on gasoline cars, even of nor very good, and you can make it work with alcohol by changing one piece, she can modify any normal car to run on any fuel it can technically run with easy due to the fast and furious perk
At first I was thinking he got killed, too, but unless Contessa killed him in his other timeline first (or immediately after), yeah, he likely survived.
Of course, if he did, that will likely bring up more questions, because at least a few of the others were killed in corridors, restrooms, cafeterias, and here's this bullet with his name on it, but he wasn't even in the building?
I hope that, if Calvert's not dead, Piggot has enough time to think about what's going on, and as soon as he shows up again, she gets him into an MRI. (And when his power lets him get away from that situation, he's probably going to end up as a wanted parahuman with a burned civilian ID, because even with the Unwritten Rules, there are still things you can't get away with.)
Environmental Protection Perk
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So I have misread the environmental Protection Perk, and it has caused some confusion in the thread. I thought the stupid thing rendered Taylor immune to any temperature/radiation/etc, and any magical versions thereof. It instead just renders her immune to environmental sources of damage from tier 3 and up.
Normally I would just roll with it and incorporate it into the story. Unfortunately I already used my interpretation on screen with the electric guy and I refuse to do a rewrite. I will instead just change the perk description where applicable. Not the perfect solution, but it's the only one I'm willing to contemplate. And a 400CP price tag for such an immunity isn't all that unbalanced IMO
Also sorry about the delay, I was busy for the holidays.
Normally I would just roll with it and incorporate it into the story. Unfortunately I already used my interpretation on screen with the electric guy and I refuse to do a rewrite. I will instead just change the perk description where applicable. Not the perfect solution, but it's the only one I'm willing to contemplate. And a 400CP price tag for such an immunity isn't all that unbalanced IMO
Also sorry about the delay, I was busy for the holidays.
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- mission viejo
It's not a published novel, so thou are excused. More seriously, if slapping a band-aid on works, why bother with stitches?
I thought the electricity was part of the environment because it was the byproduct of a shard and as an organism the entity is larger then stars thus any byproducts or effects will always be environemntal effects and only if the power is reduced and given completly to the parahuman is it not environmental.
(i didn't notice or care because there are a lot of perks there that could negate the effect anyway just the slime form could be an argument or the mouths could be able to swollow the electricity and merge it into something else or used the speed effects of making stuff perks to increase user speed so when the lighting is hitting you the pass through rate is different from the current amount also negating the damadge)