I think the Instigator is thinking along the same lines Lisa is:
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Not if none of the chains have the property of being armor she can't.
Probably not unless she had access to Super things to combine with a bike and a mouth large enough to swallow a bike with.
Not unless she had access to something that could split into two other things and, again, a big enough mouth.
They can't signal a lack of cooperation with Taylor against a Endbringer if Taylor isn't operating against a Endbringer.
Most of this is correct, some off points here.
First off is plasma. Am I missing something here? From my reading it wouldn't do jack against her. Environmental resistance gives immunity to temperature, radiation, any kind of pressure, and any magical versions of those too. Helluva drug
Next up is Chariot. Any normal slime you splatter to a sufficiently small mass would get a mindwipe ala Wolverine getting an adamantium bullet to the brain, but inertia of self removes that particular weakness. Taylor would have to be entirely smeared into a paper thin paste for this to work. A difficult proposition, but technically possible.
Taylor can be killed by electricity, but not in any amounts likely to be taken into battle by any human, para or otherwise. It can still stun her though. That paired with the combat software Armsmaster has will be very effective. At least until she speeds up, or starts refining her style mid fight.
Taylor can effect metals with her acid, but not in any timeframe likely to be relevant in a fight. Unless it's super delicate nanomachines. That said the nanothorns would be almost enough to kill her on their own.
All in all slime gives incredibly good physical resistances when Taylor's entire body is a seamless blend of neural, muscular, structural, and digestive tissue, while giving a vulnerability to most energies. And then environmental resistance 4 gave immunity to most energies.
I might be misremembering, but didn't Taylor as Weaver specifically take out some dickweasles that liked to start shit with local cops during Endbringer fights?
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Taking action against those already breaking the truce is perfectly ok IF you have proof.
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If you want to make some kickass armor, eat a comfy shirt, some nice thick kevlar, then follow that up with some hull plating from the boat graveyard, and spit out a super armor. IIRC, plentimaw will keep the shape and main properties of the first item eaten and apply beneficial properties to any other objects consumed after. This means she'd end up with a nice shirt that could probably stop sniper rounds.
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I was not clear enough, apologies.
My point being that anybody fucking around during an Endbringer fight is gonna find out real quick once the heroes come home. It makes no sense for the scope of the Truce to begin and end at the fight itself. Such would be catastrophic for society as a whole
Taylor would be immune to the effects of plasma; you're on point there.
So the Aegis-method of dying then?
I'm not sure why a Nazarickian Slime wouldn't regain memories given the way that neural networks, which is how memories are stored, work; it might take a bit to reassemble damaged sections but as long as the damage is obvious enough it shouldn't be impossible.
For reference sea sponges can reassemble themselves.
Taylor could probably reabsorb any Nanothorned mass.
I'm convinced that Taylor could have figured out, and can still figure out, methods of removing that energy-vulnerability.
I think that it can be pretty easily argued that the place you're fighting in and/or civilians are as under Truce as you are and/or that if you're starting shit then you're not under Truce protection.
They just need to know that they can arrive, fight, and then get back home, all without being deterred from doing so, and that doing so gives them bargaining power so that they're encouraged to show up; Taylor didn't show up so there's no point in removing deterrents.
Like it should be known that they would be unwilling to pay out the bounty for someone taken in or taken out at the fight, during the time and at the place or in the course of getting there, but since Taylor didn't show up that doesn't really matter.
Slimes would be able to reassemble themselves yes, but if there's less than a fist worth of mass from them that's ego death. It would effectively be a new slime if there's not enough of the brain/slime matter to reconstruct the personality from. Something along those lines.
Like, almost always once the heroes were away to fight the Endbringer, these guys would fuck around in the city they're currently in. Not the city the Endbringer is trashing.
That's very damaging for the heroes' ability to attend Endbringer fights
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Plasma at its simplest, air with a lot of extra energy in it. We find it easiest to add heat, or electromagnetic radiation when making our own.
So yea, she'd be immune to plasma. It's just an 'environmental hazard'.
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Interestingly, this means that fire attacks like flamethrowers or fireballs, cold rays, lasers, nuclear weapons, and physical force should be useless, as they're merely directed versions of those phenomena. Dancing on the surface of the sun is absolutely possible. It's one of those weird things where it's almost certainly iffy - It's an effect versus affect situation. My understanding? Usually - And I need to stress that this is JUST in my experience - if it's just something that exists, a condition of the environment, it's an effect, and easily ignored. Some fics differentiate between that and an AFFECT however, which is directed attacks at a person, or location, or whatever. An effect exists. An affect alters.
And yeah unless you're incredibly confident you can weather whatever, you don't fuck around at ALL during the Truce. The Nine don't respect it, but then Jack WANTS societal collapse and is an
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...I'd be iffy about most of those examples - but, ironically enough, less so about Sundancer's suns, since those are specifically suns and AFAICT only directed in terms of being movable.
But yeah, environmental protection =/= everything protection, if nothing else then because it would be too OP otherwise. But it would probably protect her from stuff like having the building she's in set on fire.
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Yeah, that sounds just as extremely deliberate as you would think.
Sounds like the birdie found some way around the Blank. No way that was random.
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she is a slime, probably can eat a bike
but not cars, or she will be stuck halfway like karby
Taylor: HAUMM HSTUCHK (IM STUCK)
Alec: *Laughing his ass off*
Plasma is composed of loose electrons and atomic cores, meaning it is incredibly corrosive even without its temperature, and it will destroy organic molecules on contact, and at such high temperatures it would instantly evaporate any acid or water inside her body, she can survive high temperatures but not having her water forcibly boiled out of her
at over 2200 degrees water vapor itself actually becomes flammable, and so she can dehydrate by force
not this would not happen if you just dunk her into salt, but she can lose enough water to die
Microwave lasers especially would be very effective, as she is 99.9% water, and explode her into steam, even if it doesn't directly kill her you cooked 90% of her body mass, and she isn't recovering it
at best have a 10 inches tall Taylor walking about, she becomes so light she can fly under her own power by shapeshifting wings
she can cause semi-permanent damage to weld, enough they probably won't deploy him against her
she can also escape traps and break into and out of places with the acid to destroy locks and handcuffs, not that the shapeshifting already too care of that
it does mean you have to value the permanent loss of tinker tech deployed against her, Armsmaster for instance would not want to fight her because whatever weapons he brings to bear will most likely be destroyed as a result of the battle, same with dauntless, all that time investment is gone
add a surfing suit
Development of redundancy and superior reconstruction-methods aside, I believe that you may want to familiarize yourself with the Lazarus Scale.
Yeah that's a impediment of people's ability to get to Endbringer Fights and thus a breach of the Truce. Again though; Taylor never left...Though I suppose that theoretically it would have been a impediment for any hypothetical people trying to defend her who would otherwise have had to chose between that and joining a Endbringer Fight. A bit of a reach but technically viable.
I believe that pressure-differentials, particularly between one part of her body and another, would do it despite overall pressure conditions doing zip.
Ironically I think that the precedent set by Jacob being a example of Fucking Around And Finding Out, or at least having everyone wanting to Inform You in response to it, is a stabilizing influence.
Definitions like "environments" are a bit subjective. This is a double-entendre by the way; the way that I suggest defining it is "any place you specifically can fit into" in a way that excludes inter-environmental areas.
For this reason, by the way, I believe that Crucible would be even easier for Taylor to No Sell then Sundancer.
Not with Plentimaw mouths I don't think; those are from a semi-actual lifeform rather then just being arbitrary mouths with those properties. Not unless she combines one of them with her slime or something via a pair of other Plentimaw mouths.
Even then though she might struggle to actually combine them usefully and/or permanently; since the Perk grants them as a collection of them they'd probably not retain traits between iterations of their existence if the Perk was turned off and back on again.
He fucking would as well.but not cars, or she will be stuck halfway like karby
Taylor: HAUMM HSTUCHK (IM STUCK)
Alec: *Laughing his ass off*
That said though I think that there might be some benefits to routing some vehicle-plumbing through her Plentimaw mouths.
I think that we can classify Taylor's water-content as a part of her. If not I would have to retaliate by insisting that we classify a lack of water as a environmental factor.
Furthermore I think that we can classify loose electrons and nuclei/nucleons as radiation and/or ignore the acidity and/or non-acidic corrosive properties of things due to Taylor's Nazarickian Slime morphology, or ignore it entirely due to the third tier of Environmental Tolerance being vague about things.
I'm pretty sure that Weld is enough of a shapeshifter that he isn't permanent; it'd be a hell of a trick to make him permanently be anything much less specifically be damaged.
They could convince her to hold his things ransom instead of destroying them?
I think that I'd recommend knitting actually; when you knit things you mostly use a single thread woven into itself, basically being a complex knot, which seems like it would more smoothly combine with chains, while if you tried to combine it with woven fabric you could have a hard time making interlocked chain-links like what Chain Mail is, and if you tried combining it with clothing directly you would probably end up with clothing made out of chains but not Chain Mail which...While it seems interesting it would probably not be at all useful.
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if you account for every place in the universe, environmental defenses should make you invincible
from right above absolute zero to the core of stars, to pass the event horizon of a black hole
she can also fit inside a canon and be shot out like a projectile, for extra humor
there is also the possibility that they can stretch more than a regular human mouth, or that Taylor can float the mouths besides one another and fuse them into BIG MOUTH
those mouths are From a fish after all, it potentially can extend further than a human one, they don't necessarily need to come out as human mouths, and are possibly subject to shapeshifting
she is only immune to man made temperatures up to 1500 degrees, which even a basic arc welder can reach, much less armsmaster plasma blades and shard generated suns
well not to him Specifically, but certainly to the PR and youth guard, like you can't have a ward suffering acid attacks and have it not be their fault
any hand-to-hand fighter is being pulled out immediately
the problem is that anything that touches her starts to melt, like armsmaster cannot use his halberd in melee combat without it at least ruining the finishing, which is probably very expensive considering is tinker tech, even more if it gets in the interior, or it bends
dauntless is even worse as every item represents months of effort, his boots are still leather/cloth as far as I know, even above being the place most likely to make some contact with the ground, because acid is a liquid that pools
fun fact depending on how weak Taylor was before the slime biology, she is as strong as Eddie hall (25kgx20=500), but without absolutely fucking up her health
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Oz86Hv4Ahps
like she may be entirely within human limits when it comes to strength if she was very weak before
Man a lot of perks wont work well for her, the mechanicus implants especially will be hell on a non-human body, they are barely compatible with humans already
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Yeah that's why I thought that it would be most reasonably to not depict Taylor as being immune to differentials like in shockwaves and the like.
Ah yes, fish; those things famous for being able to merge their mouths together into bigger ones.
Nope; you need to read more.
Isn't Aegis's costume red for a reason?
Yes that is why I was thinking that they might want to pay Taylor to not do that, and why I was saying that they might want to pay Taylor to not do that, so why the fuck did you not read that I said that they might want to pay Taylor to not do that?
*Googles stats* even if Taylor could only bench-press half of what's normal for the average woman she'd still be a record-winner.
She could probably calibrate things to work well enough.
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