The Eldritch One (Celestial Forge)

Amy is a stupid teenager, so it should be no surprise that her moral chain rattling is useless at best.

Taylor is also a stupid teenager, and her rationale at any given time is sus, but we must always remember:

Khepri did nothing wrong.

Skitter was right.
It's fucking grim how unironically true this is...

Edit: her accuracy might have less to do with good judgement then Earth Bet simply being pessimal and her being pessimistic but this is literally "And remember kids, the next time somebody tells you: the government wouldn't do that. Oh yes they would."
 
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"Taylor that is not an excuse. You need to go to the authorities, you can fight whatever this is. You don't have to take getting publicly slandered like this."
See, at this point it's clear Amy doesnt know about the whole Faultline attack. I find it hard to believe Taylor doesnt say something like "Slander? they attacked me on the street with mercenaries" etc...

Feels a bit like youre contriving a reason for a member of New Wave to never learn about the whole attack in your civilian identity thing.
 
Looks like everybody here also missed what Taylor did too. Am I being too subtle with my storytelling?
Avoiding giving a confession to a possibly recorder-wearing Amy? Not reacted to Armsmaster's speech and gory pictures about being a independent Cape? The way that she asked about Tinkertech so soon after giving her dad the quantum communicator? Noticed, possibly noticeably noticed, a bunch of Tinkertech cameras all over the place? I don't think that she did anything notable but I might have just missed whatever else it was.
 
Probably not particularly fun to play with unless she can find something interesting that's broken. Could be mildly entertaining to repair some E-Waste or something. Maybe try to fix up the Ship Graveyard, at least a few chunks of it, into a actual working ship.
She lives in the city L33T operates in
His tech breaks constantly and does amazing things when it does work
 
She lives in the city L33T operates in
His tech breaks constantly and does amazing things when it does work
...You don't think that she'd be able to repair Tinkertech as Tinkertech do you? Surely that would require too many exotic components right?...Though, thinking about it, I suppose that she does have her Plentimaw mouths to make some pretty abnormal components with doesn't she?
 
...You don't think that she'd be able to repair Tinkertech as Tinkertech do you? Surely that would require too many exotic components right?...Though, thinking about it, I suppose that she does have her Plentimaw mouths to make some pretty abnormal components with doesn't she?
I think it is more that she sees what is wrong with them, that is, what the black box that makes them tinkertech is "supposed" to be doing but actually isn't, and has enough knowledge from her skills to know what they could be trying to accomplish as the end product and can use the various methods available to make the tools to make the materials to make the parts and "finish" what a tinker was actually doing. The skill doesn't seem like an instant process though, she doesn't instantly know what she needs to fix something. So I imagine she will still have to take time and study anything to find out what tinkertech she can make materials for to fix.
 
I think it is more that she sees what is wrong with them, that is, what the black box that makes them tinkertech is "supposed" to be doing but actually isn't, and has enough knowledge from her skills to know what they could be trying to accomplish as the end product and can use the various methods available to make the tools to make the materials to make the parts and "finish" what a tinker was actually doing. The skill doesn't seem like an instant process though, she doesn't instantly know what she needs to fix something. So I imagine she will still have to take time and study anything to find out what tinkertech she can make materials for to fix.
It seems primarily a salvaging Perk rather then a repairing Perk.

Also I believe that Tinker-calibrated Shards do more then just substitute for distinct components, at least not in most Shards as I believe that it isn't even consistent between Shards/Tinkers, so I hope that it won't be depicted as being that simple.

Edit: when I say that Honor The Machine Spirit is secondarily a repair Perk I mean that it seems that it only helps with repairing things using the parts salvaged from other things from what I can tell.

Edit: maybe? Upon rechecking the description I think that it might also come with additional repair-skills just by themselves?
 
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Looks like everybody here also missed what Taylor did too. Am I being too subtle with my storytelling?
I think you as the author that has the whole picture doesn't realize how little information you provide on what's happening. You present an egg and then expect ust to realize it's part of a luxurious cake while an egg without any hint to the rest of the ingredients look like anything from a hard boiled egg to an omelette to pancake batter to muffins. And then get surprised we don't see the "hints"

This story is extremely wage in basicaly everything the polar opposite of bbcf we know nothing of what happens anywhere or why. literally opposite ditches of storytelling
 
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I think you as the author that has the whole picture doesn't realize how little information you provide on what's happening. You present an egg and then expect ust to realize it's part of a luxurious cake while an egg without any hint to the rest of the ingredients look like anything from a hard boiled egg to an omelette to pancake batter to muffins. And then get surprised we don't see the "hints"

This story is extremely wage in basicaly everything the polar opposite of bbcf we know nothing of what happens anywhere or why. literally opposite ditches of storytelling

I definitely put it on screen though. I don't want to make too many interludes, but I guess I can spell it out in the next heroic one.

What are people's thoughts on interludes?
 
What are people's thoughts on interludes?
Interludes are a good way of catching up the other characters that are offscreen most of the time. They're useful, as long as they aren't done way too far apart, or too frequently. And as long as you give dates of the interlude segments, so the reader knows approx when they took place, they workout just fine.

If a character has more than a few paragraphs for an interlude, you may also want to consider a POV change during a chapter. Sometimes there's too much going on in a characters head to stuff into an interlude. Without it in the main story, interactions with the character are muddied because you don't have firm enough grip on their motivations.

Tattletale is a good example of a POV being necessary sometimes. If she gets info on someone, and suddenly starts acting completely different without readers knowing it ahead of time, you end up with very confused readers going "knowing her normal mindset, she wouldn't do something that out of character". Stick her POV in the chapter instead of an interlude, and she becomes much more understandable.

YMMV, but keep on writin!
 
I definitely put it on screen though. I don't want to make too many interludes, but I guess I can spell it out in the next heroic one.

What are people's thoughts on interludes?
I think that you might have made it a part of the foreground/supertext while everyone's looking into background/subtext elements.

I'd say that you should just leave it as foreshadowing that we can kick ourselves for not noticing later.



That aside though I've noticed that you've put a lot more internal experience into this latest chapter; damn good job on that!
 
Chapter 29: The Cooking Episode
"So you're saying you can't tell the difference between broken shit and tinkertech?"

"Yep." She looks around.

"You do realize we're in one of the most rundown sections of the city, right?"

"And it's doing horrible things to my paranoia."

"Yeah, that tracks." As her face goes deadpan. "So what did you expect me to do about it?"

"Help me with power testing? I don't know! I'm sure we could brainstorm something between the two of us."

"So, we going to the waffle place again?"

"I was thinking my storage. I have to see if Dad got the other communication device." She nods and we go to a secluded door to use my key. I go to the earpiece, put it on, and after a moment of hesitation I push the dial button. A couple seconds pass where I think whatever space this is is interfering with the connection, but it does finally connect.

"Hey there! Is this Taylor?" Dad asks.

"Yes! Yes it is. So I've got to tell you about my day." And I proceed to tell him all about the most important bits of it. "So, thoughts?"

"How the hell did New Wave find out about your identity?"

"Really Dad? I was kinda hoping we could talk about my new power." Lisa edges up next to me real close at that. Probably to eavesdrop considering it's on the side with the communicator.

"And we can do that. It's just that I find the fact they know at all suspicious. They couldn't have found out from the PRT. If they knew your secret identity, then Armsmaster would've arrested you, not continue on with his Wards pitch." Huh. He would have, wouldn't he? "And then there's the matter of timing. It looks like they found out right after you were confirmed to survive our house being bombed. And then their daughter demanded answers instead of holding her cards close to her chest like she should have."

"Goddamnit!" From Lisa. "I thought I was supposed to be the smart one here. I can totally see it too, how did I miss this?"

"I take it that's your thinker then? Heh! The energy and vitality of youth is nothing next to the experience and deviousness of old men. Well we can thank our lucky stars that the PRT and New Wave aren't communicating with each other at least. Otherwise Armsmaster would've had a lot more to say to Taylor in particular."

"Yeah yeah yeah. So what do you think about Taylor's power? Because I was thinking I would try getting various broken things. See how far up the tech tree and how badly damaged it has to be to register as broken."

"Good idea little lady. Taylor have you tried fixing anything you see as broken yet?"

"No?"

"Well try it out. Stands to reason there would be a use for this new sense, wouldn't there?"

"What!? No there doesn't! Powers come with lots of dumbass caveats all the goddamn time!"

"Does that make it not worth testing?"

"..." From both me and Lisa

"Well try it out, see how it goes. Talk to you tomorrow Taylor. Try not bringing your friend next time either. She's a bit too excitable for this old man's tastes."

"Wait, dad, what are we going to do if you lose your earpiece or it runs out of battery?"

"Then we'll start the dead drop back up again." And he hangs up. I look over to Lisa who's staring at me intensely.

"I swear to God Taylor, if it turns out you just pulled a tinker power on top of all your other bullshit I might just have to fucking shoot somebody out of pure envy." I nervously laugh at that.

Power testing was innocuous enough. Started with looking at the cracked and broken blacktop on the nearest streets. That didn't trigger my new instinct at first, but I could focus on it and I could tell it was caused by heat buckling and contracting in the cold. Geeze power, what profound insights you give me. Broken security cameras were a given in this part of town, and so were broken locks where places got broken into. We went to a pawn shop to take a look at things. Just about one in ten things here ping my senses as broken in one form or another. And about half of those were in the DVD section.

"Come here Taylor." As she waves to the counter. "Does this catch your fancy?" The code we decided on just before entering. Meaning she found a minor flaw in whatever she's pointing at. She's pointing at a switchblade hand painted in a Hello Kitty motif.

"Nope." Would've said hell no based on the paint job, but that was my answer for me being able to tell something's wrong with it. In the end we bought a switch blade for each of us to deflect suspicion. The cashier was technically supposed to ask for our IDs before the purchase, but nobody in their right mind is gonna deny a couple of teenage girls the ability to defend themselves in this town.

"So, what was wrong with the knife?" Once we were a safe distance away.

"The blade was slightly bent. Nothing deal breaking, but enough to make cutting a little more awkward. So what kind of broken stuff did you see?"

"Mostly DVDs. Couldn't see anything wrong with any of the knives. Sprinkled all around here and there otherwise."

"Mmm. Makes sense. So it probably doesn't care about low quality goods then. Let's move on to the next part of the test." The next part of the test being going to a hardware store, and offering one of the neighbors to fix their broken door handle with a replacement. The neighbor in question being a suspicious sort. Not that I blame him. Free shit doesn't usually fall out of the sky in Brockton Bay after all. Anyways we convinced him with minimal swearing on Lisa's part. He insisted on doing the installation himself though.

After that we brought the stupid thing back to the base. Disassembling it revealed that it was, in fact, not tinkertech. Yippee. It also revealed the problem. Some of the internals were bent. Just enough to make a slight grinding noise whenever the door knob was turned, and prevent the lock from turning completely. The dude this originally belonged to has other locks.

Naturally I got to work bending this into shape right away. Now what I expected to happen was bending it all out of shape into an irreparable mess. A natural conclusion considering my complete lack of appropriate tools and my unfamiliarity with this model of doorknob. What actually happened was I managed to get it more or less in shape. It still ground out when turning the handle even if the lock was fixed. I was not satisfied with this. I know I can roughly fix things, but I want to know if I can do better. I got to work trying to melt the metal into place inside of myself. One piece at a time to avoid any silly fusions. At the end of it, the knob was working perfectly. I also figured out electroplating, but better and with acid. Cool.

"Hey you finally done over there?" From Alec on the couch. Looking at the clock, it seems it's been about an hour and a half since I started. "Wanna play couch co-op?" As he pats the seat next to him. "Or skip straight to bed and have some fun~"

"Nah I'm hungry. Gonna make dinner."

"All right. I'll finish this level and then join you."

Nice. So the fridge is pretty well stocked at the moment. For a given definition of 'well stocked'. Brian or Lisa must've gone out and bought things today. There's some actual ingredients in here. Vegetables, milk, and other basic ingredients. In the cupboard is... a cake mix. Fuck it, yeah, I could go for some cake.

I set some potatoes to boil to start with. Twelve total. Four for each of us in the apartment. Then I remember Bitch's dogs. Twenty potatoes. While that was boiling I preheated the oven to four hundred degrees fahrenheit and mixed up the cake batter. Once that was done I put the cake in the oven, then the potatoes on a cookie sheet with slits in them. Also the heat isn't bothering me at all. Neat. Half an hour for the cake, fifty minutes for the potatoes. Set the cake to cool, then take the potatoes out. Mash some cheese and sour cream into three fifths of the potatoes, while keeping their shape. It's too bad I don't have any bacon bits.

As an afterthought I heat up another pan to test my heat resistance. I test it with oven mitts on. No need to be stupid about things. After a couple of minutes I don't feel any pain or burning. I feel the heat rising and the mitts are singed, but no pain. And no painless burns either. Hmmm. Well the potatoes are done. I just gotta ice the cake once it's done cooling.

"So Alec, so much for joining me after the level, huh?" As I look over. He whips his head over to me and furrows his brow.

"Taylor it hasn't even been five minutes. What the fuck?"

"Huh?"


AN: The New Wave thing wasn't what I was referring to about the previous chapter btw. I don't expect y'all to keep track of the dates even if I keep a spreadsheet for that.


Powers gotten this chapter

Costumer (Terraria - Journey's End) (100CP)
Many objects, especially with regards to armor, place function over form. Now, you don't have to settle for armor that is good but an eyesore. You can take any item you possess and 'overlay' it on top of a similar item, changing the second item's appearance to match the first, while maintaining all of its functionality, protective qualities, etc.
 
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"Taylor it hasn't even been five minutes. What the fuck?"

Jeez, this power was from all the way back in chapter 15

Chapter 15

One-Man Industry (God Catching Meister) (400CP)
Despite being chained to the forge for hours on end, alchemists can make just a handful of works per day. Mixing, forging and enchanting take time and finesse, after all. Those who make items in masse tend to vomit works of low quality. In face of that, you trained and mastered the art of making things really quick without a loss in quality. About ten times as faster as your peers, in fact. While an alchemist with your same rank would take an hour to make a fire sword, you in the same span of time can make ten, and even give each different powers. This bleeds out to other aspects in your life. Time is money, after all.

Together with the repair-O'vision it's about time she started figuring out her "tinker" powers.
 
Jeez, this power was from all the way back in chapter 15
Yeah and she also got a 5x bonus in chapter 9 AFAICT

In this case they'd probably stack and she'd be... 50 times faster? I assume that they probably didn't stack for some of the testing bits and that's why it was closer to 5 minutes than 1 minute.
 
Costumer (Terraria - Journey's End) (100CP)
Many objects, especially with regards to armor, place function over form. Now, you don't have to settle for armor that is good but an eyesore. You can take any item you possess and 'overlay' it on top of a similar item, changing the second item's appearance to match the first, while maintaining all of its functionality, protective qualities, etc.

It seems to me that this simplified version of Chevalier's power may literally never come up in history again, because without some mental component that is missing from this version of the Forge, as we have seen in numerous examples before, it is on the opposite spectrum from the obvious.
 
Jeez, this power was from all the way back in chapter 15



Together with the repair-O'vision it's about time she started figuring out her "tinker" powers.
At this point I've given up hope and written off this Taylor as a typical dumbass kid. It's a Slice of Life, crack fiction story with Celestial Forge elements for dressing.
 
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At this point I've given up hope and written off this Taylor as a typical dumbass kid. It's a Slice of Life, crack fiction story with Celestial Forge elements for dressing.
Optimal Robotics has basically stated that the object of this is to see what would happen if Taylor got the Forge WITHOUT the knowledge dump that goes with any given perk. So far, she seems to be handling it like a typical teen, trying to deny it's there because it's screwing up her life worse that it already was. Eventually she'll wise up and start exploring it, probably with Danny and Lisa's help since she's still heavily in denial mode at the moment and needs a good kick in the ass to actually start thinking a bit.
 
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