The Amber Age: Pantheon Edition (Collaborative)
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Calanor
Not so silly Silicoid
Why? Looking at the map, all tiles in our influence radius of 4 are already revealed. If I understand how the clairvoyance works correctly, that means we have no more 0 DE scrying targets available.
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I don't want to restart an argument that has already been had, but... no, not all things must die. Even in real life, there's hope for eventually conquering death and living forever via transhumanism, and this is a world where gods and such exist, so death is probably even less necessary.
We may be a death god, but I want to be a friendly psychopomp death god, not a "murder everyone and/or enforce the natural order of things" death god. Or better yet, be a god born of death who despite that rejects their nature and becomes a god of life.
I think that's to be decided once we have an avatar, but I'm in favor of female or genderless.
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Okay, Everyone voting for Plan Expanding the Kingdom I've altered it to add in using Clairvoyance twice, on tiles that cost 0 DE to use it on. Or in other words, I've copied that bit from Poking the Mystery Tile and added it to my plan, then added a bit onto the end to make absolutely sure it doesn't cost us DE to use. Even though I think the 'only do it on 0 DE tiles' was already part of the instruction. Just making sure.
As for the Shrines or Expansion... Depends on how happy you want the 'God' King really. My plan focuses on making him happy (New tribe to conquer!) and also securing access to a bunch of resources we can definitely use, whilst also opening the possibility of adding another town to our kingdom for those boosts.
As for the Avatar Gender... I'm wanting female, to play off the male God King. See if we can't get our position safe with him as his 'Queen' in the Pantheon, if (when) he ascends.
And @Calanor That might be the case, the problem is, we don't have the DE to spend on doing Clairvoyance, if it costs DE. Which I suspect means it needs to be within our Influence range.
As for the Shrines or Expansion... Depends on how happy you want the 'God' King really. My plan focuses on making him happy (New tribe to conquer!) and also securing access to a bunch of resources we can definitely use, whilst also opening the possibility of adding another town to our kingdom for those boosts.
As for the Avatar Gender... I'm wanting female, to play off the male God King. See if we can't get our position safe with him as his 'Queen' in the Pantheon, if (when) he ascends.
And @Calanor That might be the case, the problem is, we don't have the DE to spend on doing Clairvoyance, if it costs DE. Which I suspect means it needs to be within our Influence range.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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No gender likely. But we csn still make babies because we are a spirit and they have weird breedding abilities.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Pfft, we're literally a hole in the ground. We don't need no stupid gender.
Calanor
Not so silly Silicoid
I know. We don't have the DE to scry outside the influence range, but all map tiles inside are already revealed. Doesn't that mean that 0 DE Clairvoyance literally does nothing?
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Yeah @Pyro Hawk as far as I can tell it doesn't do anything to do 0 DE Clairvoyance.
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Don't talk to me about that! I just copied that action from Void Stalker's plan, then added the confirmation that we'd only use it on 0 DE tiles.
I mean, the way it's written in Void Stalker's plan, we'd only be using it on 0 DE tiles anyway I believe and yet I don't see any of you guys complaining about that! Hell, some of you are going on about how it's an advantage that it's in the plan. If it does nothing anyway, then why is it an advantage?
For all we know though, Clairvoyance can be used to look over a tile already 'revealed' and see if there's anything interesting on it. Maybe not revealing a new resource, but perhaps something else useful or interesting.
On the other hand, maybe our Influence will expand this turn, or something else will happen meaning we can look at tiles that we couldn't before. Hell, it might combine with Astral Examination to increase what we discover about the Anomaly.
Not that I think any of that's likely, the only reason I edited it into the plan is because people kept bugging me and going on about how 'good' it was to have recon in a plan, and then no one complained when I said I'd be adding it in as long as no one complained.
If people are that annoyed at it, I'll be happy to remove it and go back to the original plan!
I mean, the way it's written in Void Stalker's plan, we'd only be using it on 0 DE tiles anyway I believe and yet I don't see any of you guys complaining about that! Hell, some of you are going on about how it's an advantage that it's in the plan. If it does nothing anyway, then why is it an advantage?
For all we know though, Clairvoyance can be used to look over a tile already 'revealed' and see if there's anything interesting on it. Maybe not revealing a new resource, but perhaps something else useful or interesting.
On the other hand, maybe our Influence will expand this turn, or something else will happen meaning we can look at tiles that we couldn't before. Hell, it might combine with Astral Examination to increase what we discover about the Anomaly.
Not that I think any of that's likely, the only reason I edited it into the plan is because people kept bugging me and going on about how 'good' it was to have recon in a plan, and then no one complained when I said I'd be adding it in as long as no one complained.
If people are that annoyed at it, I'll be happy to remove it and go back to the original plan!
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BungieONI
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Sorry about poking you. I wasn't paying attention to Void's plan and thus missed mentions of it being in there or why it's good. The only plans I am paying attention to are yours and the Ashform + Lizard and I was merely commenting on what I knew about the mechanics when it caught my attention.
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I'm of this opinion as well. I want to have our spirit marry the God-King to ensure a power base.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Siah'Ah Ikki sees you while you are sleeping. Siah'Ah Ikki watches you play. Siah'Ah Ikki is always aware.
because the thread won't let it sleep
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Maybe not this turn, and not next turn if my current thoughts on the plan for that turn wins, but she'll get a nice snooze the turns afterwards.
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The clairvoyance is more to see how it works based on the map and since we dont have other actions that can be done instead doing the 0 de cost us nothing.
Omegahugger
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Gosh, all I want to do is have the guy's babies, why do you all have to make it weird by bringing marriage into it!?
Besides, the guy's proto!Gilgamesh. If we're going to seduce him, we're going to do it either as a guy or as an agendered being of clay-like substance. My goggles will stand for nothing else!
And yet, you still want Greater Lizard before
BungieONI
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Yeah, that's because actually being able to have babies at all is the first and most important step to Omega.
Omegahugger
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No, I want Avatar 3 over Earth. If Ashform+Earth gave us Avatar 3, I would vote for that.
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That... doesn't require us to be female. Even if we want babies, we're a god, we could probably have babies with a rock if we wanted to. The gender of the other party is probably of very little concern. Marriage CERTAINLY doesn't require us to be female.
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DDid you guys miss the part where I stated that I wanted to marry the guy?
The fact that we don't have to do something doesn't mean that I suddenly don't want to do it.
Omegahugger
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Okay, I get why you quoted me (really, I was just making a joke on how screwed my priorities are in that particular shipping war), but what part of Indophenol's post assumes you felt forced to marry Goldie?DDid you guys miss the part where I stated that I wanted to marry the guy?
They were just pointing how Siah'Ah Ikki being female is fully unrelated to whether or not they can/will marry our God King.
(meanwhile, I objected on the grounds that GilgameshXEnkidu is my OTP and I shall support it through all dimensions and all variations)
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We don't have to marry the guy and yet that doesn't change the fact that I want to do it anyway the same way that we didn't have to play as a Death Spirit and I still wanted to anyway.
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You seem to be completely misunderstanding everyone's point. We can marry the guy while also being a guy, or while being a genderless being.
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But I don't want to do that. Which is my point. My preferred turn of events would be to have a female avatar and marry the guy and have us, him and our family as our power base. Pointing out that we don't have to do that and there are alternative options isn't going to change my opinion unless those options are something I haven't thought of.
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And why don't you want to do that? I'm pretty sure I know the real reason, but what's your version of the reason?