Testing Great Man Theory in A Fantasy World [Isekai Succession Quest]

Thats why Unity is the best way to go. Forgiveness is great but without Power behind it, its worthless.

I'd agree with that but I think it too early.

The Yoshuites took a major hit in following and the Suhutra are big with their contribution.

I'm worried long term the Suhutra ideals will simply absorb the Yoshuites, with only some minor notes for flavour rather then the base being compassion.
 
I'd agree with that but I think it too early.

The Yoshuites took a major hit in following and the Suhutra are big with their contribution.

I'm worried long term the Suhutra ideals will simply absorb the Yoshuites, with only some minor notes for flavour rather then the base being compassion.
I feel like it'll combine with Compassion being towards Humans only, with feelings of vengeance and anger merging with the Supremacy trait.
 
I feel like it'll combine with Compassion being towards Humans only, with feelings of vengeance and anger merging with the Supremacy trait.
That's what I'm worried about. We were already doing well with befriending the giants before the last Isekai changed it, so unless we want to become a warlike xenophobic race, we probably need to reverse track a bit, double down on compassion.

Also, there might be other species out there to befriend besides giants, I don't want to miss that opportunity.
 
That's what I'm worried about. We were already doing well with befriending the giants before the last Isekai changed it, so unless we want to become a warlike xenophobic race, we probably need to reverse track a bit, double down on compassion.

Also, there might be other species out there to befriend besides giants, I don't want to miss that opportunity.
Don't worry Elves are just humans with sharp ears we can befriend them! Or not. Idk, I think Unity would be fun, hell even outright going with the non compassion route would be interesting. (assuming there are elves or halflings etc...)
 
That's what I'm worried about. We were already doing well with befriending the giants before the last Isekai changed it, so unless we want to become a warlike xenophobic race, we probably need to reverse track a bit, double down on compassion.

Also, there might be other species out there to befriend besides giants, I don't want to miss that opportunity.
If you mean the elves I think you need to read the synopsis for the quest cause it says "magical throat-slicing elves" for a reason, even then if anyone's read ancient folklore on elves & fae they'd know they're completely evil/alien to co-exist. While I believe we could potentially befriend some xeno races *cough* *cough* dwarves, I'm fairly certain that other species will be generally hostile towards us since they'd generally have a physiology & thought process too alien for us to truly live alongside.
 
[X] Unity: She attempts to reconcile Suhurta's and Yoshua's teachings, the all-powerful Yahweh also brought destruction to other people according to Yoshua, but power without justice and order is nothing.
 
They don't really believe in sacrificing people to the gods to appease them out of fear and instead believe in making themselves stronger regardless of the means or justification to fight god himself. In that regard, they're more like the Norsemen of mythology than the Aztecs.
You mean the Norse that unsolved and pillaged the near entirely of the known world. Because the Norse are just as bad in other ways.
 
You mean the Norse that unsolved and pillaged the near entirely of the known world. Because the Norse are just as bad in other ways.
The Norse didn't start out with Christian morals & Jesus as their prophet to chill them out, so I'd say we're more friendly & less bloodthirsty than the ancient Norse ever was, at least to our fellow Humans. Woe be to the Xenos for all I care if they dare make an enemy of man.
 
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The Norse didn't start out with Christian morals & Jesus as their prophet to chill them out, so I'd say we're more friendly & less bloodthirsty than the ancient Norse ever was, at least to our fellow Humans. Woe be to the Xenos for all I care if they dare make an enemy of man.
That's how we get dogpiled and killed by every other species.

We are very much not the dominant one right now.
 
That's how we get dogpiled and killed by every other species.

We are very much not the dominant one right now.
I'm not advocating that we make war with every non-human species in the way, just that we be very ruthless to those who could potentially be a threat to us and can't be negotiated with. If we find hobbits or something I obviously want to befriend them since cooperation would be more useful with them due to how similar and compatible we are with them. But if we find something like a psychotic fae or goblins from Goblin Slayer then we should be prepared to go full genocide without hesitation before they decide to do the same with us. The giants in this case were an expectation since we didn't get to choose a war with them.
 
I'm not advocating that we make war with every non-human species in the way, just that we be very ruthless to those who could potentially be a threat to us and can't be negotiated with. If we find hobbits or something I obviously want to befriend them since cooperation would be more useful with them due to how similar and compatible we are with them. But if we find something like a psychotic fae or goblins from Goblin Slayer then we should be prepared to go full genocide without hesitation before they decide to do the same with us. The giants in this case were an expectation since we didn't get to choose a war with them.
As long as there is variety in the interactions with other species I don't mind much
 
Planning to make my next Chosen Gaius Julius Caesar, if it is possible to claim a second spot after my turn is done and nobody uses him beforehand

Edit: Oh my god I just had an idea, does anyone wanna have their Chosen be Sappho the ancient greek poet?
 
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I feel like it'll combine with Compassion being towards Humans only, with feelings of vengeance and anger merging with the Supremacy trait.

Maybe, if this happened during a time of peace which would level out the field of influence I'd agree, but in this case I think the Yoshuites are at a political and religious disadvantage.

That's what I'm worried about. We were already doing well with befriending the giants before the last Isekai changed it, so unless we want to become a warlike xenophobic race, we probably need to reverse track a bit, double down on compassion.

Also, there might be other species out there to befriend besides giants, I don't want to miss that opportunity.

I agree with this, kill them with kindness.

Then actually kill them.

If you mean the elves I think you need to read the synopsis for the quest cause it says "magical throat-slicing elves" for a reason, even then if anyone's read ancient folklore on elves & fae they'd know they're completely evil/alien to co-exist. While I believe we could potentially befriend some xeno races *cough* *cough* dwarves, I'm fairly certain that other species will be generally hostile towards us since they'd generally have a physiology & thought process too alien for us to truly live alongside.

I think the more terrifying thing about Elves if they exist in the Quest is that they probably outlive Humans by a good few hundred years. Say imagine a Genius Elf becomes a ruler of a neighbouring realm and so does a Human Genius achieve it, the Humans got what 30-40 years if he's lucky? While the Elves have this Genius for 400 to 500 years? While humans replace their leadership ten times sometimes the leaders are bad or mediocre, the eleven continue to have a great ruler.

Outmanoeuvring us easily simply because they don't have to relearn new skills or deal with as much political instability.

Not only that knowledge is cumulative in a much higher rate then Humans who have limited memories, which are lost every generation because we can't record all that info. While an Elf has a much longer time to learn and apply said knowledge, as their generational loss is offset by them living much longer.

If we assume Elves are like Humans then their Lifespan alone gives them a... stupidly strong advantage.

But that just a theory, a Game Theory.

Well thats only an issue in a world in which they are in mass contact, were in an era in which the only intelligent non humans we know of are the Giants right now.

Look's to the North-West where unknown humanoids are appearing, look's east to the massive migration of Giants occurring in the last 30 years and looks south to the small green cannibals that have been hinted at.

I think we're fast approaching that era of contact, at least I think by the next turn or after that were meeting the North-Westerners.

I mean that's what unity leaves the seems for. So…

Also 40k exists for people who like that anyways.

Eh, I honestly think all of them allow for Humans to interact with others.

I just think Yoshua is more peaceful influence and Suhutra more violent.

Yoshua might allow for the pushing of Humans to interact with others more but it also has the risk of us being unprepared.

Suhutra is probably more aggressive so if we meet someone weaker we'd probably consume them but in turn we bite off too much... were the ones eaten.

Unity demands two different religious group to reconcile with two conflicting ideologies which may be swayed towards Suhutra more simply because conflict is inevitable at this point, with giants.

(My bad should not have encouraged it for Ryuman.)

Planning to make my next Chosen Gaius Julius Caesar, if it is possible to claim a second spot after my turn is done and nobody uses him beforehand

Edit: Oh my god I just had an idea, does anyone wanna have their Chosen be Sappho the ancient greek poet?

Sappho? I'm curious why?
 
[X] Unity: She attempts to reconcile Suhurta's and Yoshua's teachings, the all-powerful Yahweh also brought destruction to other people according to Yoshua, but power without justice and order is nothing.

Both options are really tempting but ended up settling for this one because power is needed but it must be guided. And it does make sense to me in a narrative way, her spite and stubbornness was what finally ended Suhurta vindicating it somewhat, but Suhurta's methods caused more problems than it creates such as the current war with the Giants.

What I am hoping here is that Unity does bring actual synthesis between the two belief systems and not just one belief system flavoring the other.
 
Rule 2: Don’t Be Hateful - Arguing against the existence of gay poetry because it'll cause population decline is not acceptable.
Gay poetry, also we could possibly use her to help kickstart a written language and maybe teach some folks how to also write some pretty good stuff
Lesbians & language is the best 2 for 1 deal, beat that Costco!
No, just no.

You could have gotten a ton of other writers but you have to pick that person of all people.
I am not bringing that to this world that early, I dont want the population to decline this early.

edit: Just get a Hypatia expy or something that would have been better.
 
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No, just no.

You could have gotten a ton of other writers but you have to pick that person of all people.
I am not bringing that to this world that early, I dont want the population to decline this early.

edit: Just get a Hypatia expy or something that would have been better.
I have to agree here.

Let's not destroy our ability to repopulate while we are in danger of literally going extinct as a species.
 
Gay poetry, also we could possibly use her to help kickstart a written language and maybe teach some folks how to also write some pretty good stuff
Lesbians & language is the best 2 for 1 deal, beat that Costco!

That not a bad idea, I think their might be some trouble as she'll have to change the Greek Alphabet to fit the actual K'tal language.


No, just no.

You could have gotten a ton of other writers but you have to pick that person of all people.
I am not bringing that to this world that early, I dont want the population to decline this early.

edit: Just get a Hypatia expy or something that would have been better.

I'm gonna say this comes of a bit wrong, also I doubt one lesbian is gonna make a population decline.
 
I have to agree here.

Let's not destroy our ability to repopulate while we are in danger of literally going extinct as a species.
That is a really dumb excuse
Sexual orientation is impossible to change without some drastic measures

It's more creative gap people as a major societal trend.

Which directly clashes with our survivalist trait anyways.
I don't know how writing is gonna make the survivalists any less skilled at what they do, and I doubt the homosexual poetry is gonna completely change their society, her most impactful contribution would probably be the written language that could preserve survival strategies and knowledge
Her other works would probably just be a bonus

then why introduce it in the first place, it does not benefit anyone.

Also pls don't just poz this quest, seriously.
Why should her sexual preference have to benefit anyone?

I don't know what poz means
 
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