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Yeah, that's why I'm iffy. Leaving the economy free-floating for two decades seems pretty bad, tbh.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
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- Mature Sci-Fi
oh if it a decade then I'd rather drop gene slave then than working on our millitarty def think it a bad idea to hunt chaotic horror without a proper millitaryt but yah this does make me lean toward econmny instead somewhere in there
Was gonna say that idc If its chapter or organised normal military, but then realized chapter option only gives us gene Seeds. So yeah, poor guy has to stay only person of his chapter.
But after that I'm very interested in helping our psykers and getting that chapter set up.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Three Actions only. You may eventually stumble upon rare instances where you can trade for the completion of a project or it just fixes or "fixes" itself like the Chapter and Economy ones if left unattended for too long.
[X] Plan: Unity, Duty, and Gene Seed
If things are about to fix or "fix" themselves (i.e. will if not taken that voting period) that falls under
right?
[X] Plan: Burn Out The Rot
-[X] [General] Burn the Corrupted Parts
-[X] [Psykana] Hunt down the remaining Psykana Experiments
-[X] [Faith] Unite The Creed
First things first, get rid of the chaos-y bits and put together a functional religion.
[X] Plan: Settling the Foundations
Less chaos purging but more practical I will admit.
-[X] [General] Burn the Corrupted Parts
-[X] [Psykana] Hunt down the remaining Psykana Experiments
-[X] [Faith] Unite The Creed
First things first, get rid of the chaos-y bits and put together a functional religion.
[X] Plan: Settling the Foundations
Less chaos purging but more practical I will admit.
Sigh that's what I expected...
Yeah...I am sure that's nothing that won't come up later...
[X] Plan: Securing Homebase
-[X] [General] Repair the Station
-[X] [General] Burn the Corrupted Parts
-[X] [Psykana] Hunt down the remaining Psykana Experiments
Fixing the home base and making sure the home base isn't going to come down around us and all the enemies are dead should come first. Lementors, the choir and especially burning out the corruption should come next.
[X] Cleanse the Foundations
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[X] Plan: Securing Homebase
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Yeah, while we did go all in on Chaos resistance, I'd much rather we remove all corruption from our home when we're just starting and this is all we got.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Yes, I will tell you in that action that they are being taken care of by XYZ or start losing relevancy due to ABC if or when that happens. But I won't do so without warning.
Vote closed
001.M42 - Heavy Stubber Gal With Sweltering Abs
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Everyone had known that the Council was a measure taken to patch over the rough period of instability and (lower-case) chaos that would inevitably appear as the people organized themselves into something that didn't rely on cruelty, violence, and torture to hold itself up. Most thought that the ones in charge could organize themselves and their duties sooner rather than later and that things would improve without them worsening.
It was no surprise to the rest then that the council broke down in less than a standard year.
Dreadnought Chyron was mostly absent from council meetings, spending most of his time organizing the revival of the Lamenters, several hundred Chapter Servs sworn into the Chapter. At the same time, he used their labor and that of volunteers to begin the construction of a new headquarters and all the surrounding supporting infrastructure the Chapter will need.
The Celestial Choir spent most of its time working on refining what songs they had, with the rest spent on either searching for newly awakened Psykers, defending those chokepoints that were used to cordon off the regions where the prowling psykana experiments had nestled within, or generally appearing only to vote for the proposals that the civilian administration wanted to be done, only voting against them in matters of their specialty.
Teeln, Prophet of the Star Child, was also primarily absent, working hard to gather the creed into one united whole while helping the burning of what corrupted parts of the station could be reached without running into errant psykana experiments. This was hampered by multiple factors, such as the number of people able to read and write being countable on one hand with the knowledge that the thumb isn't a finger and two others missing. Most others used self-taught scripts and pictograms, memorizing words used in the Dark Priests manufacturing processes on a need-to-know basis (such as Danger, Daemon, Sacrifice, etc.). So hampered, he began a massive program to get the priests (and then the general population) literate so that orders could be more than spoken. He also worked closely with Hymnal Bnuy to get canticles promoting purity and harmony through faith worked into sermons and dispersed among the population, alongside tweaks to work songs so that they have a minor anti-corruption part within them as well. The fervor with which Bnuy aided him inspired all working with the two and noticeably increased the speed at which damaged parts of the station were brought into use once more.
Labor Captain F-K L4J/Y0S, or Klajiyos, has been consistently overworked and has remarked more than once that working in a chain-gang in the bulletarius was far less draining than the work he is doing now. This became more noticeable once the stims he was using to get more work done started to affect him less and less, with confusion spreading to those waiting for orders that were sharply delayed.
All of this came to a head when a severely sleep-deprived Durik Psi-2 marched into the council (after clamping down on an attack by a gaggle of psykana experiments) on a rare occasion when Klajiyos, Bnuy, and Teeln, Prophet of the Star Child, were present as well, declaring that after some thought and looking at what was happening, that the guys with guns should not have a say in matters, and the ones left should get their shit together as soon as possible because it was becoming increasingly clear that this solution, temporary as it was intended to be, had neared its end. Not only because they were starting to be unable to command the people effectively but also because he knew how this shit would go: the guys with guns would demand more guns and then start asking questions about why the guys with guns weren't the ones in charge. Or the gals with guns would.
At which point he got a thousand-hall stare before blinking and turning around, declaring that he was quitting and would go get himself a "heavy stubber gal with sweltering abs." It is still being determined if he has succeeded since then.
Regardless of that fact, the remaining three agreed that they needed to try something better, especially for the sake of Labor Captain Klajiyos.
Congratulations! Your government is nearing a point of collapse! Thankfully, with no crisis, unrest, or outside stress factors, you can commence a peaceful and smooth change in how your government operates.
As a reminder, your government is an Oligarchic Council, splitting its power between the Lamenters Chapter, the Celestial Choir, the Star Childs Church, the Civilian Administration, and the Military. Each has a vote on what is to be done at any given time, and each can vote for, against, and abstain on any given issue.
Current known factors to keep in mind:
-The Lamenters Chapter is neutral on active participation within the government.
-The Civilian Administration is under severe stress due to only a single leader.
-The Celestial Choir has little to do/effect outside their specialty.
-The Military should not be placed in charge equal to the Civilian Administration.
-People are generally okay with changes happening as long as they aren't repressive or disruptive to their new lives.
-The Faith must be kept in the government as a Voter.
What you can do:
-Assign privileges and restrictions to each part of the government.
--These are:
---[Voter]: Has a vote upon the Council.
---[Veto Power]: Able to shut down initiatives or votes for their respective part of the government, allowing parts like the Celestial Choir to prevent the Council from throwing shit into the Warp for giggles.
---[Observer]: Can suggests to, but is not an active participant of, the Council and government.
---[First Among Equals]: Able to break ties in a vote. Nothing more.
-Add/Remove Seats in the Council.
--You can only add five more seats to prevent a considerable upset in bureaucracy.
---It is recommended that at least two, possibly four, more seats be created for the Civilian Administration.
Current Government Structure:
-[Military] - [Voter]
-[Faith] - [Voter]
-[Celestial Choir] - [Voter]
-[Civilian Administration] - [Voter]
-[Lamenters] - [Voter]
New Government Structure:
(1-Day Moratorium)
[] (Write-In)
It was no surprise to the rest then that the council broke down in less than a standard year.
Dreadnought Chyron was mostly absent from council meetings, spending most of his time organizing the revival of the Lamenters, several hundred Chapter Servs sworn into the Chapter. At the same time, he used their labor and that of volunteers to begin the construction of a new headquarters and all the surrounding supporting infrastructure the Chapter will need.
The Celestial Choir spent most of its time working on refining what songs they had, with the rest spent on either searching for newly awakened Psykers, defending those chokepoints that were used to cordon off the regions where the prowling psykana experiments had nestled within, or generally appearing only to vote for the proposals that the civilian administration wanted to be done, only voting against them in matters of their specialty.
Teeln, Prophet of the Star Child, was also primarily absent, working hard to gather the creed into one united whole while helping the burning of what corrupted parts of the station could be reached without running into errant psykana experiments. This was hampered by multiple factors, such as the number of people able to read and write being countable on one hand with the knowledge that the thumb isn't a finger and two others missing. Most others used self-taught scripts and pictograms, memorizing words used in the Dark Priests manufacturing processes on a need-to-know basis (such as Danger, Daemon, Sacrifice, etc.). So hampered, he began a massive program to get the priests (and then the general population) literate so that orders could be more than spoken. He also worked closely with Hymnal Bnuy to get canticles promoting purity and harmony through faith worked into sermons and dispersed among the population, alongside tweaks to work songs so that they have a minor anti-corruption part within them as well. The fervor with which Bnuy aided him inspired all working with the two and noticeably increased the speed at which damaged parts of the station were brought into use once more.
Labor Captain F-K L4J/Y0S, or Klajiyos, has been consistently overworked and has remarked more than once that working in a chain-gang in the bulletarius was far less draining than the work he is doing now. This became more noticeable once the stims he was using to get more work done started to affect him less and less, with confusion spreading to those waiting for orders that were sharply delayed.
All of this came to a head when a severely sleep-deprived Durik Psi-2 marched into the council (after clamping down on an attack by a gaggle of psykana experiments) on a rare occasion when Klajiyos, Bnuy, and Teeln, Prophet of the Star Child, were present as well, declaring that after some thought and looking at what was happening, that the guys with guns should not have a say in matters, and the ones left should get their shit together as soon as possible because it was becoming increasingly clear that this solution, temporary as it was intended to be, had neared its end. Not only because they were starting to be unable to command the people effectively but also because he knew how this shit would go: the guys with guns would demand more guns and then start asking questions about why the guys with guns weren't the ones in charge. Or the gals with guns would.
At which point he got a thousand-hall stare before blinking and turning around, declaring that he was quitting and would go get himself a "heavy stubber gal with sweltering abs." It is still being determined if he has succeeded since then.
Regardless of that fact, the remaining three agreed that they needed to try something better, especially for the sake of Labor Captain Klajiyos.
Congratulations! Your government is nearing a point of collapse! Thankfully, with no crisis, unrest, or outside stress factors, you can commence a peaceful and smooth change in how your government operates.
As a reminder, your government is an Oligarchic Council, splitting its power between the Lamenters Chapter, the Celestial Choir, the Star Childs Church, the Civilian Administration, and the Military. Each has a vote on what is to be done at any given time, and each can vote for, against, and abstain on any given issue.
Current known factors to keep in mind:
-The Lamenters Chapter is neutral on active participation within the government.
-The Civilian Administration is under severe stress due to only a single leader.
-The Celestial Choir has little to do/effect outside their specialty.
-The Military should not be placed in charge equal to the Civilian Administration.
-People are generally okay with changes happening as long as they aren't repressive or disruptive to their new lives.
-The Faith must be kept in the government as a Voter.
What you can do:
-Assign privileges and restrictions to each part of the government.
--These are:
---[Voter]: Has a vote upon the Council.
---[Veto Power]: Able to shut down initiatives or votes for their respective part of the government, allowing parts like the Celestial Choir to prevent the Council from throwing shit into the Warp for giggles.
---[Observer]: Can suggests to, but is not an active participant of, the Council and government.
---[First Among Equals]: Able to break ties in a vote. Nothing more.
-Add/Remove Seats in the Council.
--You can only add five more seats to prevent a considerable upset in bureaucracy.
---It is recommended that at least two, possibly four, more seats be created for the Civilian Administration.
Current Government Structure:
-[Military] - [Voter]
-[Faith] - [Voter]
-[Celestial Choir] - [Voter]
-[Civilian Administration] - [Voter]
-[Lamenters] - [Voter]
New Government Structure:
(1-Day Moratorium)
[] (Write-In)
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Hmm, if we want to mostly preserve the way things are, a good trick would be to give Lamenters, Choir, and Military a veto in their fields.
The real question for the Civilian Administration is how we should be dividing their power internally, as it were.
The real question for the Civilian Administration is how we should be dividing their power internally, as it were.
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@HeroCooky , who at this point represents the tech-guys/Tech Priests/Not! Tech Priests or so on? Is that the Civilian Administration?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Faith does. Your faith has, by virtue of being born on a Dark Mechanicum outpost, and being about the successor of Big E, a lot of overlap between the usual Ministorum and Mechanicus divide.
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Would anyone object to creating a new Faith seat along with the 3-4 Civilian seats, or would that be seen as an overreach/etc?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
It would not.
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-[Military] - 1 Seat [Voter]
-[Faith] - 2 Seats [Voter]
-[Celestial Choir] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
-[Civilian Administration] - 4 Seats, [Voter], [First Among Equals]
-[Lamenters] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
This is my first crack at a non-radical change to the structure. Total number of voters increases to 7, but with the Civilian Administration given priority, thus hopefully heading off objections to the Military's singular vote. I could also see an argument for giving them Veto Power, but I worried that'd be too much authority.
Similarly I could see the argument for taking away their vote, but it feels like that would lead to a situation where I'm just overthrowing the structure people voted for to make something entirely new. And this feels like the kind of adaption that someone would come up with if they're tinkering with the details in-universe?
-[Faith] - 2 Seats [Voter]
-[Celestial Choir] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
-[Civilian Administration] - 4 Seats, [Voter], [First Among Equals]
-[Lamenters] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
This is my first crack at a non-radical change to the structure. Total number of voters increases to 7, but with the Civilian Administration given priority, thus hopefully heading off objections to the Military's singular vote. I could also see an argument for giving them Veto Power, but I worried that'd be too much authority.
Similarly I could see the argument for taking away their vote, but it feels like that would lead to a situation where I'm just overthrowing the structure people voted for to make something entirely new. And this feels like the kind of adaption that someone would come up with if they're tinkering with the details in-universe?
pheonix89
Wants to be Seven Of Nine
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I'm leaning towards adding several civilian seats and a faith (tech) seat then?
Need to divvy things up internally ... put First Among Equals on one of the civilian seats, and veto on Lamenters and Choir for if nothing else practical reasons - you really don't want to be forcing those hands.
Not on military in general I don't think.
Need to divvy things up internally ... put First Among Equals on one of the civilian seats, and veto on Lamenters and Choir for if nothing else practical reasons - you really don't want to be forcing those hands.
Not on military in general I don't think.
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- They/Them
-[Military] - 1 Seat [Voter]
-[Faith] - 2 Seats [Voter]
--Faith Leader (Education, unity of faith, etc, etc)
--Faith (Tech)/Mechanicus side of things
-[Celestial Choir] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
-[Civilian Administration] - 4 Seats, [Voter], [First Among Equals]
--Food Production
--Factory Production
--Some Third Thing
--Votes At Large (First Among Equals)
-[Lamenters] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
Revised it to outline the divisons, it makes sense if we're sticking with, "Oligarchic-democratic rule of the best in each field" that we'd be sub-divide even the seats into areas. So that all of the people making food, whoever that is, have a guy who represents them, and all the Factory people do, and then some third Civilian thing I'd have to figure out, and then one person that's voted on by everyone together to ride herd?
-[Faith] - 2 Seats [Voter]
--Faith Leader (Education, unity of faith, etc, etc)
--Faith (Tech)/Mechanicus side of things
-[Celestial Choir] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
-[Civilian Administration] - 4 Seats, [Voter], [First Among Equals]
--Food Production
--Factory Production
--Some Third Thing
--Votes At Large (First Among Equals)
-[Lamenters] - [Observer] [Veto Power]
Revised it to outline the divisons, it makes sense if we're sticking with, "Oligarchic-democratic rule of the best in each field" that we'd be sub-divide even the seats into areas. So that all of the people making food, whoever that is, have a guy who represents them, and all the Factory people do, and then some third Civilian thing I'd have to figure out, and then one person that's voted on by everyone together to ride herd?
Maybe we could split the factory production into military and non-military production? Since that seems like too much stacked in one role.