What a coincidence you would say that! That's exactly what's happening.
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What a coincidence you would say that! That's exactly what's happening.
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Makes sense. Someone has to build up Utopia Planatia so that one day it can go to war with the SDB. Have to maintain the sanctity of the timeline after all.
*Wonders what our version of the NX will look like.*
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Not to mention the men and women of the UP won't be them without experiencing SDB-related headaches and ulcers.
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I don't know. How many experimental prototypes can we shove in it?
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The answer? YES.
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What do you mean the drydock is the only thing holding it together? - The Admiralty, probably.
I mean, yes, but the Enterprise writers seemed to think you didn't need small scale testing.
If rolling for prototyping was not quite so exciting, what we might have done more often is build a testbed ship with a production run of one vessel (or refit some old vessel we have lying around if technically feasible) to test out the new technologies and see if there are teething issues. (You see 19th century navies trying this a lot, with mixed results.) This wouldn't provide insurance against all problems, since often with Trek ships technical problems are emergent phenomena rather than obvious design flaws; I.E. the EPS conduits for the phasers resonate at a weird frequency which only becomes problematic when the deflector is at max load and hits its resonant frequency or whatever. But it would head off some of the issues.
Another thing you see more in Trek is the expectation that technical issues will be found in a shakedown cruise and fixed in refits, which seem to be fairly frequent. (Assuming the issues are fixable.) So a ship like the Century or her sister ships would not expect to spend their whole service lives with a faulty deflector or nacelles. That seems to be an expectation in the Quest too, although I'm unsure to what degree.
joe6168
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From the sounds of things between the Ushaan and Century we made a big impact on the Dominion war, and Endeavor made Voyager's time in the Delta quadrant far easier compared to the canon Intrepid.
Overall I'd call this a very successful run.
Overall I'd call this a very successful run.
Goddamn, I guess the Century should have been called the Majestic after all because holy shit.
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She basically went "witness me!" in her first major battle.
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So, as mentioned previously, I don't have much experience with post-DS9 series. So can anyone give me the rundown of what the NX from ENT was like? I know that it was Earth's first Warp-Capable ship, and that it used different technobabble because "LOL, its the past" with Polarized Armor and stuff like that, but I think it was just rewritten flavor text in practice. Anything we need to keep in mind, or should improve, if we're the ones designing it?
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Considering the phrase "The armor plating is offline" was used quite often, yeah basically true. Though it wasn't Earth's first warp capable ship since that was Cochrane's Phoenix, it's Earth's first Warp-5 capable ship.
Very low warp factor, the fleet is not in any way a powerhouse, we'll have a tiny amount of ships. United Earth Starfleet basically only projects power to Sol and it's direct neighborhood, outside that Earth basically entirely relies on the Vulcan fleet to manage affairs.
So we're gonna want to focus on teching up, but also designing ships our relatively primitive industrial base can actually handle. No more 300% prototypes by volume like we've done here.
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It wasn't Earth's first Warp Capable Vessel, it was the First Warp 5 vessel earth had however.
Let me answer your question as concisely as I can. Everything.
Any improvement we make to the canon NX will be invaluable.
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As far as I remember it was basically the constitution with better VFX, different technobabble and a time war.
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That bad huh. I know there was a bit about the weapons not being ready before they left Earth, but I thought that was just the Characters being badly-written idiots.
So, hypothetically, if the choice between designing a cheap patrol ship to be pumped out en masse, or a limited quantity of high quality monitors that hits the edge of our tech base, what should we pick?
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The latter probably. To explain how bad a state the fleet is in ENT, Earth shipping has a serious problem with being raided by Nausicaan pirates, because there aren't enough ships able to cover the trade routes.
If it's not supposed to be a cutting edge explorer like the NX class is, we want to be focusing on reliability over fancy.
At times they are, alot...
But it doesn't change the fact that the NX needs to have more oomph
I would say that we go for spam...to a degree. We need to be careful to not neglect the higher end technologies too much, because we arn't the Big Boys on campus here, and Earth is in legit peril in this timeline.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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Probably the cheap patrol ships. We'll be a long way from having resources 'yes'.
for the new quest we might want to talk things over over and set an informal "no more then X prototypes for this project" goal with each project.
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Neither, we would want to be somewhere in the middle not only to tech up, but to actually have something besides cannon fodder.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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Is the plating energised in some way? Because that's the only way I can parse that sentence as making any sense.
"Polarized hull plating" is what that era uses.