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[X] Lengthened Secondary Hull
[X] Lengthened Secondary Hull
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[X] Ovoid Secondary Hull
2368: Project Intrepid (Propulsion)
[X] Lengthened Secondary Hull
The lengthened secondary hull looks somewhat incongruous with the primary, but there's a sort of utilitarian beauty to it. The only thing left for the main spaceframe is the nacelles. The first option is the new variable-geometry coils, which are designed to deploy upwards and adjust their physical space by millimeters during warp travel, optimising the subspace field. In combination with the new injection systems for the warp core, it shouldn't have any problem with producing the velocities the Intrepid needs.
The second option is a pair of ventrally displaced nacelles, where they drop below the primary hull and to the same level as the main deflector. These traditionally long nacelles would be able to produce the same performance as the variable geometry nacelles, but with a simplified warp core and lower maximum cruise speed. Its shortcomings would need the new prototype deflector to make acceptable performance targets.
The final option is to use a pair of forward-swept nacelles in the traditional Starfleet position. But to power the new coils would require a larger warp core, though it promises to improve both maximum cruise and maximum warp speeds. Like the second option it would require the prototype deflector to function effectively.
[ ] Variable Geometry Nacelles
[ ] Ventral Nacelles (Prototype)
[ ] Forward-Swept Nacelles (Prototype) (Experimental)
Two Hour Moratorium, Please.
The lengthened secondary hull looks somewhat incongruous with the primary, but there's a sort of utilitarian beauty to it. The only thing left for the main spaceframe is the nacelles. The first option is the new variable-geometry coils, which are designed to deploy upwards and adjust their physical space by millimeters during warp travel, optimising the subspace field. In combination with the new injection systems for the warp core, it shouldn't have any problem with producing the velocities the Intrepid needs.
The second option is a pair of ventrally displaced nacelles, where they drop below the primary hull and to the same level as the main deflector. These traditionally long nacelles would be able to produce the same performance as the variable geometry nacelles, but with a simplified warp core and lower maximum cruise speed. Its shortcomings would need the new prototype deflector to make acceptable performance targets.
The final option is to use a pair of forward-swept nacelles in the traditional Starfleet position. But to power the new coils would require a larger warp core, though it promises to improve both maximum cruise and maximum warp speeds. Like the second option it would require the prototype deflector to function effectively.
[ ] Variable Geometry Nacelles
[ ] Ventral Nacelles (Prototype)
[ ] Forward-Swept Nacelles (Prototype) (Experimental)
Two Hour Moratorium, Please.
Variable Geometry Nacelles feel like the obvious choice, but part of me wants to go with the Forward-swept Nacelles and pursue a Neo-Excelsior...
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i think that the Variable Geometry Nacelles make the most sense but i think that the ventral are the canon option when you look at images of voyager
Variable Geometry are explicitly the Canon option. Note how every time Voyager goes to warp the Nacelles raise up.
I like the idea of the forward sweeping nacelles, but I also want to preserve as much internal space for the different science labs. So the variable geometry would help there.
I don't like the ventral nacelles due to a lower max cruise speed. As a science ship, we need to be able to quickly move to any anomaly as fast as possible so we can study it for as much time as we can.
I don't like the ventral nacelles due to a lower max cruise speed. As a science ship, we need to be able to quickly move to any anomaly as fast as possible so we can study it for as much time as we can.
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I'm for Experimental tbh. This is our first choice where we can prototype something, and I mean, Yoyodyne can't fuck up a new nacelle configuration three times in a row, right? And since this is an explorer rather than a frigate or cruiser, I'm fine being a bit prototype-happy. Probably don't experiment with the tactical systems, leave those to old reliable since we're pretty advanced firepower-wise at present, but other than that let's go Ambassador-tier crazy.
Just to help see the trade-offs here, would this option and the prototype deflector give us better speed than the variable geometry nacelles and a prototype deflector?
Yes. One notch above the canon config. But another prototype roll than canon would have had.
The more I look at the ship so far the more I see an opportunity for a new Excelsior and that means I have to vote for forward swept. Let b'lanna figure out the fiddly bit 😝
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the main problem with the forward swept nacelles is that they would require a larger warp core and the prototype deflector to function, that seems like a lot of things that could break if just one thing is slightly off.