Baughn
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I set it to immediately before I posted the last chapter, which should work out.
Shards of a Broken Sun [Megaten/Shugo Chara/Exalted]
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It's unwise to read to much in to Baughn posts like that, I'm not saying they'd deliberately put you on the wrong track... But just because they said something doesn't mean the original idea was bad. It's quite possible it was good and they said it a certain way because they had to give some kind of response and didn't want to give any indication on the merit of an idea.
It seems to be set to start here, 3 pages before the last chapter.
Baughn
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...off by a week. Fixed, thank you!
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I mean, if Baughn is suggesting Utau is "more safe" than Amu, I am really not sure how else that can be interpreted besides "Amu is risky".
Baughn
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The risk is that the Scavenger plot gets derailed again, which won't necessarily make for a good story—poor kids!—but there is some risk, yes. Can't deny it. If you feel like trying it regardless, then there's no reason for me to stop you.
Though I will once again point out that the Dumpty Key works perfectly well for Utau. She hasn't used it, since it's more of a keepsake than a tool for her... maybe it's time to change that?
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Ikuto and Utau's father made them. Utau, it could be argued, has given the locket to Amu. She'd probably prefer Amu to keep it, but she's an understanding young woman. ...no, I'm not going anywhere in particular with this; just thinking out loud.
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Oh for...
[X] Forget about disguising the car, t'was a silly idea
[X] Pick up Utau, ask if they could borrow Nikaidou's car.
Either of these are fine, we're not very likely to be followed by reporters, and if we are switching cars will probably throw them off. The point of the original plan was that to an observer from Manticore we look like just another person driving down this street, with nothing to indicate that we're looking for the Scavengers or merit any closer investigation. Dodgy illusions or fake or obscured licence plates potentially break that. Just driving a regular, legal car in a regular, legal way, does not. If we need to make a closer approach we can park the car somewhere else and walk back.
[X] Forget about disguising the car, t'was a silly idea
[X] Pick up Utau, ask if they could borrow Nikaidou's car.
Either of these are fine, we're not very likely to be followed by reporters, and if we are switching cars will probably throw them off. The point of the original plan was that to an observer from Manticore we look like just another person driving down this street, with nothing to indicate that we're looking for the Scavengers or merit any closer investigation. Dodgy illusions or fake or obscured licence plates potentially break that. Just driving a regular, legal car in a regular, legal way, does not. If we need to make a closer approach we can park the car somewhere else and walk back.
Baughn
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Well, Hotsuin is about 70% dragon by weight. And you know what they say about dragons, fair maidens and knights covered in ketchup...
That analogy got away from me, and I'm not sure Amu counts as a fair maiden. But she's caught his eye, which automatically makes any moves against her seem highly dangerous to anyone who knows who he is. The school demon-ing was... extremely public.
That analogy got away from me, and I'm not sure Amu counts as a fair maiden. But she's caught his eye, which automatically makes any moves against her seem highly dangerous to anyone who knows who he is. The school demon-ing was... extremely public.
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I think Pistachio wants to park it close enough for it to be a practical getaway vehicle if we need to leave in a hurry? I dunno. We all seem to have very different ideas of the risks here.
Who actually knows Hotsuin has any particular interest in Amu? We've had one conversation, which he tried to walk away from, and it doesn't look like he's made any effort to pay attention to Amu since then. I don't know how many people even know that the one conversation happened.
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Presumably Fumi Kanno, who was also there, and his cousin Lulu. Still not 100% sure that Kanno herself isn't involved with Manticore, most of the reason I give her benefit of the doubt is because Hotsuin keeps her close and if there's anyone he's got full awareness of for everything they get up to, it would be Kanno.
Even if the car is parked further away, covering Midori and running back to wherever the car was parked is likely going to be a lot easier to do than try to bodyguard her (probably literally with our body) for the 7-10+ minutes it would take to phone JPs and have them arrive.
There's also 2 other things I see the car being useful for - one is carrying injured passengers (i.e. if any Scavengers are already wounded when we arrive, or if Amu/Utau gets hit during the fight) and the other is kidnapping a Manticore agent if we decide they are easily overpowerable and can take one alive.
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[X] Forget about disguising the car, t'was a silly idea
[X] Pick up Utau, ask if they could borrow Nikaidou's car.
[X] Pick up Utau, ask if they could borrow Nikaidou's car.
He's the head of an organization.
It wouldn't be surprising if he handed out orders to minions to keep eyes on various things, and to people already keeping an eye on Hotsuin, that would probably be reasonably public.
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The winning Party vote is indisputably Amu, Midori and Utau no matter what you look at.
But the favored Approach vote is now split between (what I assume is) going on foot and using the Dumpty Key to boost range vs 3 variants of Wardriving.
Variant one was the original winning variant that just had us asking Utau and her forgetting she could use the Dumpty Key. That had 4 votes and ties with the Chaperoned Date approach. One is a variant that reminds her she could use the Dumpty Key (mine) and the 2 votes were for asking to borrow Nikaidou's car.
If you look at them as just Wardriving in general and collapse the variants, there's 7 votes for that approach.
Had the impression you would be doing that with the Wardriving votes and just going with the majority variant.
But the favored Approach vote is now split between (what I assume is) going on foot and using the Dumpty Key to boost range vs 3 variants of Wardriving.
Variant one was the original winning variant that just had us asking Utau and her forgetting she could use the Dumpty Key. That had 4 votes and ties with the Chaperoned Date approach. One is a variant that reminds her she could use the Dumpty Key (mine) and the 2 votes were for asking to borrow Nikaidou's car.
If you look at them as just Wardriving in general and collapse the variants, there's 7 votes for that approach.
Had the impression you would be doing that with the Wardriving votes and just going with the majority variant.
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OK, well at least Amu is in position to be driven to the hospital when she collapses from using the Dumpty Key.
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Seriously, when we get interrupted after Amu can't hide the brain pain from it and her mother asks what's wrong and if they need to drive to JPs state-of-the-art psychic treatment lab to get her head checked, I'm going to vote for Amu getting stupid and thinking it was Utau's fault and not the Dumpty Key's and tell Utau to do the scan separately instead of "as a dating couple".
Just so we can keep going with the Scavengers plot instead of heading to the hospital.
No really, I am serious, I am going to vote to blame it on Utau (her morale be damned) and not the Dumpty Key, just so Amu's mother glares at her and doesn't try to drive off with Amu and delay the house call.
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Well that's OK then.
I just got that impression from @Nero200 asking this:
Silly me.
I'm glad I'm wrong. No further arguments on my part.
I just got that impression from @Nero200 asking this:
That the plan involved Amu actually tapping the key to boost herself.
Silly me.
I'm glad I'm wrong. No further arguments on my part.
Baughn
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There's a peripheral effect from being nearby and/or emotionally connected to the person using the access key. The later discussion was about Amu actually using it herself, however, which isn't the same thing.
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I kinda assumed there wasn't actually any difference between "primary tapping" and "secondary tapping".
Good to know there is a difference between them in terms of safety and that the plan will not be attempting the former.
I guess I should say that I intended my vote to be a modifier to the previously winning plan, not a new independent vote
Nero200
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Yeah, I was meaning very much the same 'passive boost' the other Guardians got from being around Amu (Who was wearing the locket), not taking the key for ourselves / actively invoking it.
That seemed obviously risky / bad plan to me, even beyond the social issues of such.
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While that is certainly a thing, if you are on foot there is no need to just stand in position you know. Psychics have long since demonstrated the ability to jump over small buildings while carrying people. So you can hop away in a way no one but some what competent psychics could follow anyway. And you could get somewhere public fairly quickly like that as well.
Truthfully anyone who could follow you doing that, would probably be able to follow the car as well.
Baughn
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That's how I was parsing it. But when accounting for that, all the votes end up being roughly the same thing anyway. To within typical margin of error.