Good catch.
What tipped you off? The Jelly like construction of the place?
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What tipped you off? The Jelly like construction of the place?
Nope, it was actually intended to be a joke
Joke more often then, lolNope, it was actually intended to be a joke
There's going to be a LOT depending on how well Amu does on that occult roll, isn't there. I'm glad that that's the one with the descriptive stunt.
Actually, come to think of it, you may want to go ahead and just roll it and tell us what information Amu is acting on so our plans can reflect that. Just a thought.
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We still need a fallback plan, though
I don't like being dead in the water after taking a leap of faith. Too much experience with Murphy's Law
Unfortunately, Im not familiar enough with Exalted mechanics to suggest anything good off hand, and my best read on the situation is unviable if this roll goes south.
It's mildly annoying, but if this goes belly up on us, Amu and Fumi could potentially wind up anywhere both inside and outside the Vortex World.
And that would, without a doubt, screw us over.
I don't like being dead in the water after taking a leap of faith. Too much experience with Murphy's Law
Unfortunately, Im not familiar enough with Exalted mechanics to suggest anything good off hand, and my best read on the situation is unviable if this roll goes south.
It's mildly annoying, but if this goes belly up on us, Amu and Fumi could potentially wind up anywhere both inside and outside the Vortex World.
And that would, without a doubt, screw us over.
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I guess an alternate stunt would be to again see if one could wake up Dia? Admittedly lots of time pressure here... on the other hand, she has what is needed for more safe attempts. Though waking her up in the wrong way might inflict long term damage.... so there is that as well... Unsure on viability.
And a good fallback plan would be to run for the exit?
And a good fallback plan would be to run for the exit?
Look at the character sheet. It explains most of the Exalted stuff relevant to this.
Nah, thats the main plan. If it fails, this entire dimension collapses in on us as a result of trying to secure Fumi blindly.
Since we're "in between the Amala Network and the real world" that means that when this space collapses, shit goes completely FUBAR if we're still caught up in it.
Well, it has been awhile.
Couldnt hurt.
If the tunnel closing is being modelled as a throat closing then Joint Wounding or a perfect dodge might work
The way back is less clear then the way forward, isn't it? So maybe running in to the Amala network is an option as well? One would assume there is more time that way, and it might be more stabilized from that direction. As in, this is projecting out from the Amala network, so the terminus at the base is the least stable part most likely.
If that falls through, something like craft reality would become increasingly useful...
If that falls through, something like craft reality would become increasingly useful...
Baughn
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It's not. The place may or may not count as alive, for the purpose of charms, but it very decidedly isn't a single creature.
It goes back to the layered physics model, and the fact that even the vacuum around here will try to eat you, but I don't think medicine charms apply to worlds built on colonies of bacteria.
Hey, it could work
Based on what Im seeing of Amu's variation of Wyld-Shaping, if we can drag Fumi into the Amala Network, then successfully analyze it, all those broken applications of it I suggested are very much within our reach. Unfortunately, making a break for that direction in particular is probably doomed to failure.
We don't know where wed end up. And as such, securing the ability to hit the ground running so to speak is whats important. Once Amu hits anything even resembling normal space, she'll be on the clock to get someone somewhere to make sure that the Towers will be able to remain functioning. Too many unknowns to risk doing anything else.
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Oh this is interesting. Ill be coming back to this in a minute.
Hint: Anima
Question: Can we bring Flawless Diagnostic Technique to bear in this situation? Given the Occult check, Amu will realize that she's surrounded by something that's alive, and if so, she can then attempt to use her Anima to force the creatures around her to instinctively cease their attempts at hostility, or perhaps just serve her outright?
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Alectai
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Dia would be able to, and likely Miki as well, especially if we can fully incarnate them soon.
At the same time, ugh.
Yeah, I've still got nothing.
So you say, but being dropped in to the Void is even worse, isn't it?
How ever, it's not impossible to do two things at once. Miki who is merged with Amu right now, could drop out of the merger and try to quickly run back to the exit. She might be able to make quite good time on that. Of course that means Amu drops in capacity and intelligence a bit... but it would allow for multiple objectives.
An important detail in this might be that Amu would stop breaking down the tunnel on that side as quickly doing so, so Miki would perhaps have a bit more time.
Of course, if it goes wrong Miki might get dropped in to the Void and then things might be even worse...
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Thus logically any such move should only be done if one can think of a way to get Miki that way very quickly. (ie, throw her to the exit really really quickly)
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Further options as alluded to by the author, Ran and Su might be some what capable, they should have a fair bit of the same base skills and are some what linked to Amu. And there is always Dia still...
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In any case, generating further ideas, even partially bad ones might be useful. Some one might be able to put together a few of them in to something better.
Eh, should I start prefacing my points about what's referring to how characters would interpret stuff IC?
Oh we're most likely dead if that happens. Fumi too.
And Baughn did say that MC death is entirely possible in this game. Chances are Exa-kun would just go to someone else.
What would that accomplish, though?
Loss of intelligence and the ability to shape air to breath actually makes the exact opposite far more likely.
We should just assume that getting stuck in the void is an instant death scenario.
Nope. We're already taking a stupid chance here, unless we have something concrete in mind for doing that? Let's not up the risk factor any more than necessary right now.
Speculation is nice and all, but its a tangent at the moment. We should remain on task. And none of Amus charas will survive if Amu herself gets killed as a result of this dimension collapsing in on itself
Which is why this whole "living dimension" thing is so damn appealing to me right now.
If we could only modulate the Anima to inspire, not so much fear, but loyalty and acceptance into the stuff making up the surroundings, we can have complete control over it, and even keep the gateway from closing in on itself.
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Baughn
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Sorry, I'm not going to tell you the outcome of your vote in advance of calling that vote. Unless you want to vote for taking a few seconds to figure out the situation, which you can.
I'm going to say no. "No, she won't" as well as "No, it won't work". The amala network isn't alive at the physics level of magatsuhi; it's alive at the hard, rock-bottom level of physics which - and this is important - the exaltation can't reach underneath, thus limiting its options. There are two levels of physics above that which is intended to be reliable machinery. Flaring your anima at it will do nothing.
Which is just as well, because if it did anything, it'd be "make reality run away screaming". And that can't be good for anyone.
Ignoring that you're some distance away from anything I'd call a "void" -
Chaos-repelling pattern does what it says on the tin, at least as far as keeping Amu alive goes.
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That result wouldnt be "shit closes in on you anyway", right?
Hmmmmmmmm.
Okay. Back to the drawing board then
Edit: So what we're dealing with here is...a...
Edit2: So we're stuck in a Domain, then? Or something very, very much like it? Hmmm.
I really need to stop relying so much on my assumptions.
Edit3: Anyway, the point of that is those things are the result of powerful demons opening up separate dimensions in reality by virtue of their sheer presence warping a location in order to generate a nest of some kind.
That's just fluff, though, so people who arent familiar with the term know what Im saying. It honestly is irrelevant right now.
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Baughn
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I wouldn't be that mean. I said I'd roll dice, and I meant it; get a sufficient number of successes, and you'll succeed. Get a smaller-than-required but not too much smaller number, and you'll succeed partially.
The threshold here, by the way, is 8.
I haven't played SMT IV, so it can't possibly be getting involved. Unless my own extrapolations go the same direction as the canon writers, which would be interesting!
EDIT: *checks*...
Oh, huh. Well, not exactly a domain.
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Get Miki to work on the Seal? She's probably the best there is right now. As fallback plans go, there are worse things.
It would be nice if you kept context on why this was brought up. Awhile back you asked for possible fallback plans. As in, what to do if the main plan isn't going to work out.
Unsurprisingly the fallback plan has decided possible downsides to it compared to the favoured main plan. But if you reach fallback point, obviously the main has failed. Thus why I'm poking around at what options there might be assuming it does.
And if I'm very lucky, I might even hit an idea that's better then the current main plan.
As such, what if shooting down every idea right away meant to accomplish? No fallback plan is worse then even a really bad one.
Maybe, I'm not so convinced it would be, but it's probably quite inconvenient at minimum. For something like Miki the chance of instant death probably is substantially more like though, yes.
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In any case, as I will thus reiterated now from your last time of just saying no to it. A possible fallback plan is to run to the Amala network side of things in case you can't get back. It's surely better then the Void, right?
I guess it's interesting, then!
Regardless, the instability is a very serious matter. But chances are, things that are couched in between layers of reality like that won't dump us into the Void when they collapse in on themselves. So long as we prioritize keeping Fumi alive when it all falls apart, and we don't, say, wind up stuck in a wall or anything as a result of telefragging, we should be mostly alright.
Unfortunately, theres no way of taking advantage of this IC. But its something to keep in mind.
That's basically what I meant. Just, you know, while running towards Fumi using the stunt instead of sitting there doing nothing for a few vital seconds
I just had the best idea ever*: use Contagion-Curing Touch to apply an antibiotic. Nothing can go wrong with this planr**.
*may not be the best idea ever
**customer satisfaction not guaranteed
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What is with people taking offense at feedback? This is a sounding board period, of course we refine the ideas being thrown out into something workable. That's how the process works. We come up with ideas, shave off what doesn't work, and improve what does for the best possible results.
Yeah. Im saying what's wrong with the idea so we dont settle on it for any longer than we have to. Baughn is still giving us time before he calls the vote, but that won't last indefinitely.
Edit: Mastigos' writeup as it currently stands should be fine.
If we go for that whole "smooth pearl" bit, then we'd have to rely on keeping the integrity of the CRP up at all times around Fumi in order to resist the potential fallout of the attempt going south. That should be enough for her to survive, while Amu keeps up IPP.
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My problem is that your criticism doesn't sound like it's handling the issues like it's a fallback plan. Instead you point out problems as if it is the main plan.
For instance the fall back plan would only really come in to play if you for instance can not get back.
Thus I suggested the logical fallback plan I though of running forward, in to what seems the more stable portion of the system.
You say that this leaves no one to handle the Seal.
I suggest you could throw Miki back, on the idea she's pretty smart and could handle that.
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At the end you then seem to reject the plan for being terrible and not focusing on the main objective. Which leaves me confused, as it's a fallback plan on what to do if you can not escape and it's only presumption is that doing this is better then falling in to the Void.
Thus... is this plan worse then falling in to the Void?
I don't mind further improving a fallback plan, but your criticism doesn't sound like you're trying to patch up a fallback plan to be less terrible. (As fallback plans tend to be, as otherwise they'd be the main plan) And instead sounds more like you are criticizing it as a main plan.