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veekie said:
We can haul ass REALLY fast at need if we dump compassion into it. Open to suggestions that don't risk the gateway closing on us before we get through though
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Yeah, but...the only reason Amu survived exposure to it for a couple of seconds was due to her defenses kicking in automatically.

Not even taking precautions to protect Fumi if whatever is keeping her secure within the Network doesn't comply with Amu dragging her along is a very literal death sentence.

And besides, like I keep saying, the gateway closing on us is far from the worst thing that can happen in this situation.
 
Alectai said:
Even if we had another hour or two to perfect the "Fully Materialize a Chara as an independent Spirit" Charm, we'd be okay. But we didn't, so we can't.
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Does it need to be perfected?

It would work as written, the reason why you wanted to avoid using it is because it carries a pretty hefty penalty at the moment.
 
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If i am not misremembering , we should have some "You can learn charm fast" slots: if it is true, i would have liked to suggest buying All-Encompassing Sorcerer's Sight so we will be able to understand more easily how to return to our reality.

Unfortunately i cannot access the Character Sheet and thus i cannot know if we have the necessary occult to learn the charm.

There is anybody here willing to check for me?
 
Giygas said:
If i am not misremembering , we should have some "You can learn charm fast" slots: if it is true, i would have liked to suggest buying All-Encompassing Sorcerer's Sight so we will be able to understand more easily how to return to our reality.

Unfortunately i cannot access the Character Sheet and thus i cannot know if we have the necessary occult to learn the charm.

There is anybody here willing to check for me?
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Nominally, yes. In practice, it's difficult to do so without being in contact with Exa, but that particular problem should solve itself soon enough.

Fast or not, though, that's still an hour-long action.
 
Baughn said:
Nominally, yes. In practice, it's difficult to do so without being in contact with Exa, but that particular problem should solve itself soon enough.

Fast or not, though, that's still an hour-long action.
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Okay, thanks for clarifying.

Now at least we have a Plan B if we get stuck.
 
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[x] Grab Fumi.
-[x] Attempt to analyse this side of the gate. (Occult excellency)
-[x] Look for whatever is generating the clear space
-[x] Run for the gate if the space moves with Fumi

Shouldn't take TOO long to do analysis and then maybe we'd have some blasted information to run on.
 
veekie said:
Decided to change

[x] Grab Fumi.
-[x] Attempt to analyse this side of the gate. (Occult excellency)
-[x] Look for whatever is generating the clear space
-[x] Run for the gate if the space moves with Fumi

Shouldn't take TOO long to do analysis and then maybe we'd have some blasted information to run on.
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Note that the DM specifically said my previous write-in was viable. But I agree with you about the information gathering so wow about instead of stopping to observe we do something like the following

[X] Grab Fumi.
-[X]Try to make sure that IPP is running on the same reality-definitions as used to save the Seal. Use the hackjob Chaos Repelling Pattern once you've reached Fumi
-[X]Use the connection to the Charas as a guide to get back.
-[X]Run. Even if reality becomes hostile to Fumi or something like that, it's a very short trip. You didn't run very far to get to Fumi so IPP demands that it be the same distance back.
-[X]Even as you dash madly across the tunnel and then back, use the Occult Excellency to transform your every motion into mnemonic keys for the analysis of this strange space you find yourself in. The forward lung of arms and the natural pan of the head grasp observations and data, while the slam of a feet against the ground drives that data deep into your memory and subconscious to be analyzed, and the thrusting lift as your body leaps off the ground entirely becomes the rising moment of conclusions and connections being assembled into a growing structure of understanding.
 
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[X] Grab Fumi.
-[X]Try to make sure that IPP is running on the same reality-definitions as used to save the Seal. Use the hackjob Chaos Repelling Pattern.
-[X]Use the connection to the Charas as a guide to get back.
-[X]Run. Even if reality becomes hostile to Fumi or something like that, it's a very short trip. You didn't run very far to get to Fumi so IPP demands that it be the same distance back.
-[X]Even as you dash madly across the tunnel and then back, use the Occult Excellency to transform your every motion into mnemonic keys for the analysis of this strange space you find yourself in. The forward lung of arms and the natural pan of the head grasp observations and data, while the slam of a feet against the ground drives that data deep into your memory and subconscious to be analyzed, and the thrusting lift as your body leaps off the ground entirely becomes the rising moment of conclusions and connections being assembled into a growing structure of understanding.

Maybe the last stunt is a bit too much pompous,but i approve of the rest of the vote, especially the "Use the HackJob CRP" part.
 
Because that will still kill Fumi

Flat out.

And Baughn didn't say anything about it being guaranteed to work. Actually, when did he even say it was viable?
 
The Hackjob CRP(Which creates a zone of stabilized physics around us) enforces the rules of the world we just left, not of Creation. Why it should kill Fumi?
 
Giygas said:
The Hackjob CRP(Which creates a zone of stabilized physics around us) enforces the rules of the world we just left, not of Creation. Why it should kill Fumi?
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iirc, the hackjob crp only worked because we were stationary within the dragon seal. We've certainly got the materials to work with to generate it, but that charm was only used to protect Amu during Conception, and even then did an imperfect job.

We just don't know if it follows along with her. If you're going to go that angle, make casting CRP the first option just so Amu can see whether or not it suits her purposes during the stunt itself.

For the record: Physics are wonky as fuck in the Amala Network. The distance rule of iPP may not apply

So just don't be surprised if it doesn't. It's used for instantaneous travel over long distances, after all
 
TehChron said:
We just don't know if it follows along with her. If you're going to go that angle, make casting CRP the first option just so Amu can see whether or not it suits her purposes during the stunt itself.
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Actually, if your concerns are valid, that's exactly the wrong thing to do. Simply because expanding IPP in CRP would probably accelerate the collapse and kill Fumi because the tunnel collapses before Amu reaches her. I'm going to change my vote to do CRP only once Fumi is in range of it.
 
mastigos said:
Actually, if your concerns are valid, that's exactly the wrong thing to do. Simply because expanding IPP in CRP would probably accelerate the collapse and kill Fumi because the tunnel collapses before Amu reaches her. I'm going to change my vote to do CRP only once Fumi is in range of it.
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No, because we're not in a tunnel

We're inside the Amala Network now, and it is incredibly stable. That wont happen. Physics are disregarded, true, but there's no risk of anything falling apart once Amu activates CRP.

And again. There's someone there who's responsible for that space that's keeping Fumi safe. There's literally no risk to Fumi so long as she remains in that bubble.

Actually, how did you even get that? Didn't I just finish explaining how the Amala Network works or something? This isn't some kind of transient metaphysical portal, it's a network that reaches every part of the Vortex World, and carries a flow of staggering amounts of Magatsuhi in addition to the occasional wandering demon and ghost.

Even if the Void enroaches further, the Amala Network will remain in place until the Vortex World itself is gone. It's not going anywhere regardless of what we do.
 
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veekie said:
[X] Grab Fumi.
-[X] Full speed for the gateway.
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Skelm said:
-[X] See if whatever is protecting her from...wherever this place is, will follow along or get messed up by your own in effect Charms.
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TehChron said:
[X] See if whatever is protecting her from...wherever this place is, will follow along or get messed up by your own in effect Charms. It may be possible to carry her out with you, especially if she doesnt get torn apart by the forces that almost got you
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That's not HER bubble, someone else is imposing it. We already know in-character that humans don't make bubbles of reality without lots of specialized equipment (like the Dragon Seal or the Exaltation). Also I just realized. We didn't flicker out because we used IPP, we used IPP because we flickered out. See below
Baughn said:
Sorry, but I'm not exactly making these up. There's nothing arbitrary about it; you jumped into the Amala Network without suitable protection, the outcome is a given. Luckily activating IPP is a reflexive action.
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wingstrike96 said:
-[x] Attempt to analyse this side of the gate. (Occult excellency)
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veekie said:
-[x] Attempt to analyse this side of the gate. (Occult excellency)
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You probably want to at least include the stunt for this
Giygas said:
[X]Try to make sure that IPP is running on the same reality-definitions as used to save the Seal. Use the hackjob Chaos Repelling Pattern.
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TehChron said:
iirc, the hackjob crp only worked because we were stationary within the dragon seal. We've certainly got the materials to work with to generate it, but that charm was only used to protect Amu during Conception, and even then did an imperfect job.
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We should probably avoid expanding IPP into CRP until we actually reach Fumi otherwise the tunnel may collapse.

[X] Grab Fumi.
-[X]Try to make sure that IPP is running on the same reality-definitions as used to save the Seal. If her bubble of stability cuts out or doesn't follow her movement, use the hackjob Chaos Repelling Pattern once you've reached Fumi.
--[X]If necessary, consider trying to get the fully realized version of CRP.
--[X]If the hackjob version is immobile, consider using it repeatedly to create stationary bubbles one after another forming a path back for Fumi
-[X]Use the connection to the Charas as a guide to get back.
-[X]Run. Even if reality becomes hostile to Fumi or something like that, it's a very short trip. You didn't run very far to get to Fumi so IPP demands that it be the same distance back.
-[X]Even as you dash madly across the tunnel and then back, use the Occult Excellency to transform your every motion into mnemonic keys for the analysis of this strange space you find yourself in. The forward lung of arms and the natural pan of the head grasp observations and data, while the slam of a feet against the ground drives that data deep into your memory and subconscious to be analyzed, and the thrusting lift as your body leaps off the ground entirely becomes the rising moment of conclusions and connections being assembled into a growing structure of understanding.
 
We should probably avoid expanding IPP into CRP until we actually reach Fumi otherwise the tunnel may collapse.
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Why do you keep insisting that this is a thing?

Its not.

That's literally not how it works. Aside from the Gateway closing, theres no other real risks at the moment.

Also I just realized. We didn't flicker out because we used IPP, we used IPP because we flickered out. See below
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We already knew that, though.
 
TehChron said:
We're inside the Amala Network now, and it is incredibly stable. That wont happen. Physics are disregarded, true, but there's no risk of anything falling apart once Amu activates CRP.
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Sorry, I guess I misspoke. Normally I wouldn't explicitly explain this, but since I've already mislead you:

The place you're in right now is not the Amala Network. It's connected to the Amala Network, obviously, but you're kind of in between it and normal reality right now. The difference is largely a matter of who made it, and how.
 
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Baughn said:
Sorry, I guess I misspoke. Normally I wouldn't explicitly explain this, but since I've already mislead you:

The place you're in right now is not the Amala Network. It's connected to the Amala Network, obviously, but you're kind of in between it and normal reality right now.
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Ahhhhhhhh.

Tunnel collapsing is now a possibility, then.

Fuck. Probably should wait it out, then.

Edit: Should've known from the lack of drums nearby.
 
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Baughn said:
Sorry, I guess I misspoke. Normally I wouldn't explicitly explain this, but since I've already mislead you:

The place you're in right now is not the Amala Network. It's connected to the Amala Network, obviously, but you're kind of in between it and normal reality right now. The difference is largely a matter of who made it, and how.
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would it be possible to stunt a smooth gradient on the outer edges of IPP/CRP so that instead of a bit of grit scraping against the delicate interior of the tunnel, we're encapsulated in a smoothing pearl that slides along nicely?
 
mastigos said:
would it be possible to stunt a smooth gradient on the outer edges of IPP/CRP so that instead of a bit of grit scraping against the delicate interior of the tunnel, we're encapsulated in a smoothing pearl that slides along nicely?
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That isn't really how I'm modelling it, but.. hmm.

What you really want is to avoid damaging the temporary tunnel more. At essence 4, you should be capable of the necessary control for that, but being theoretically capable and having the knowledge to do so is two different things. Ideally, you'd want Craft(reality) and/or related sorcerous capabilities.

You could try it with just your occult excellency. In that case, because I'm honestly unsure how it'd work out, I'll throw a dice. I recommend having a fallback plan.
 
Baughn said:
That isn't really how I'm modelling it, but.. hmm.

What you really want is to avoid damaging the temporary tunnel more. At essence 4, you should be capable of the necessary control for that, but being theoretically capable and having the knowledge to do so is two different things. Ideally, you'd want Craft(reality) and/or related sorcerous capabilities.

You could try it with just your occult excellency. In that case, because I'm honestly unsure how it'd work out, I'll throw a dice. I recommend having a fallback plan.
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So the options are to potentially cause a collapse in the hopes of getting Fumi out and having a perfect win? But take the chance that itll collapse on us and completely screw us over?

Or just wait it out and try to figure things out on a more stable time frame while waiting for whomevers going to collect Fumi to come by?

This is starting to sound like an example of that "doing everything right won't necessarily lead to the best possible outcome" stuff, hmm.

I'd be down for taking the chance if a fallback option presents itself.

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I'll have to think about it. Um. This shouldn't be a hard question, should it?
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Well, considering how much your answer would reveal about the situation, it actually kind of is.

My condolences
 
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