Probably think we're weak and not deserving to rule the world.
Well....guess we'll have to show him just how....unfortunately (for him) wrong he is.

If he has a copy of fleetway Robotnik in his head we are scraping him 9.9 times out of ten.

We threw out snivley for less, we are not taking Fleetway Robotniks treacherous understudy as anything other then scrap to pick apart and analyse.
I think he only has a copy of his intellect. I don't think he has a one-to-one copy of Fleetway Robotnik's mind. But still...he is troublesome.

...Yeah that's not going to fly. We meet him we scrap him.
I'm more of...."disciplinary reprogramming".....he could be of use...provided we remove some of his more unsavory traits. Should that prove fruitless, THEN we....'retire' him.....
 
I think he only has a copy of his intellect. I don't think he has a one-to-one copy of Fleetway Robotnik's mind. But still...he is troublesome.
Oh yea no- he's a direct copy of fleetway eggman. Even copied grimers mind to make his own badnick army, he was going to download the heroes memories to figure out where their hideout was and destroy it but then split personality started and had to delete that part.
 
Oh yea no- he's a direct copy of fleetway eggman. Even copied grimers mind to make his own badnick army, he was going to download the heroes memories to figure out where their hideout was and destroy it but then split personality started and had to delete that part.

Alright glad for the confirmation, that's a machine going in the kill on sight list for sure, alongside ADAM.

We don't need the guy dressed as great value Dr. Doom with the mind of one of our most monstrous counterparts, if we wanted a starscream to our megatron so badly we wouldn't have thrown snivley to the curb.
 
Oh yea no- he's a direct copy of fleetway eggman. Even copied grimers mind to make his own badnick army, he was going to download the heroes memories to figure out where their hideout was and destroy it but then split personality started and had to delete that part.
Then how about, if we DO find him, make sure any split personality he develops is in our favor? Could save us the effort of reprogramming him. Or we can take notes out of Red Vs Blue.

Alright glad for the confirmation, that's a machine going in the kill on sight list for sure, alongside ADAM.

We don't need the guy dressed as great value Dr. Doom with the mind of one of our most monstrous counterparts, if we wanted a starscream to our megatron so badly we wouldn't have thrown snivley to the curb.
Brutus and ADAM are trouble. But I DO believe they can be.....'salvaged'.....they just need some....discipline. The 'Red vs Blue' treatment should work. If not, THEN we retire them.

As for Snively? We should remind him that while we are a much better alternative to his uncle....betraying us is not good for one's health.
 
As for Snively? We should remind him that while we are a much better alternative to his uncle....betraying us is not good for one's health

Little late on that boat dude, we already kicked him to the curb of our own volition a long time ago like before we dealt with the zeti and got our stuff back, So that ship has sailed.

He ain't in our jurisdiction anymore and ain't a part of our line-up, I think he was messing around in the Empire last I remember.
 
Little late on that boat dude, we already kicked him to the curb of our own volition a long time ago like before we dealt with the zeti and got our stuff back, So that ship has sailed.

He ain't in our jurisdiction anymore and ain't a part of our line-up, I think he was messing around in the Empire last I remember.
I meant for when we eventually run into him again. As long as he does not hinder us, he's free to live his own life. Should he be a thorn in our side?

Then he'll swept aside, at best. Should he REALLY be detrimental to our efforts.....the punishments will be more severe.
 
I meant for when we eventually run into him again. As long as he does not hinder us, he's free to live his own life. Should he be a thorn in our side?

Then he'll swept aside, at best. Should he REALLY be detrimental to our efforts.....the punishments will be more severe.

We both know snivley so he's going to either do something stupid accidentally or get in our way intentionally and we'll have to deal with him.
 
We both know snivley so he's going to either do something stupid accidentally or get in our way intentionally and we'll have to deal with him.
Indeed. If it's sheer accident (and if we can discern if it was accidental), then any punishments will be just strict enough for him to be more cautious. If his meddling is intentional.....then said meddling, will be met....with flame.....

Still, we have much to do. We have Mecha online again. We have the garage finished, so our bots can get repairs, which frees us to do other things.

If we can get an alliance with Camelot (or at least another non-aggression pact), we could have some arcane stuff for Yahna. That could help us deal with not only the flames plaguing our land, but also the stagnation plaguing Camelot. I wonder....how would Eggman speak with Merlina (aside from scoffing at magic)? Because I think even Eggman (while liking the idea of an eternal nation (his own empire, primarily)) would not like the idea of eternal stagnation. Eternal stagnation....stasis...stillness...that's a pretty dark fate.
 
Then how about, if we DO find him, make sure any split personality he develops is in our favor? Could save us the effort of reprogramming him. Or we can take notes out of Red Vs Blue.
Ah nah it's not that he developed a split personality out of the goodness of his heart. Rather the freedom fighter Johnny light foot (that's a bugs bunny ripoff) who he just copied memories from was fighting for dominance over his body.

That was a freak accident on his part that he deleted as soon as it came about, he stopped messing around with that afterwards. He ain't gonna spontaneously develop anymore unless we forcibly mind wipe him and install another AI manually.
 
Ah nah it's not that he developed a split personality out of the goodness of his heart. Rather the freedom fighter Johnny light foot (that's a bugs bunny ripoff) who he just copied memories from was fighting for dominance over his body.

That was a freak accident on his part that he deleted as soon as it came about, he stopped messing around with that afterwards. He ain't gonna spontaneously develop anymore unless we forcibly mind wipe him and install another AI manually.
If his mind is based on an organic mind....then said mind can be....malleable. Remember what I said about Red vs Blue? Remember the protagonist Church?
 
Tbh I haven't thought of that show for a while so things are hazy, I think there's a fractured psyche for church?
The Original Alpha AI of Project Freelancer (Alpha being like Cortana. Flash-cloned brain turned into a Smart AI. Specifically of Project Freelancer Director Lenard Church). Because Project Freelancer was only given the one AI, and they needed more, the Director decided to subject Alpha to a series of psychological torment/torture. As his mind fractured itself to ward off trauma and pain, the pieces became their own AI (each an aspect of Alpha's psyche).

The last fragment of Alpha (after giving up even memory) was implanted in an unwilling host (Private Jimmy). This effectively made Church an AI piloting an empty shell.
 
If his mind is based on an organic mind....then said mind can be....malleable. Remember what I said about Red vs Blue? Remember the protagonist Church?
Tbh I haven't thought of that show for a while so things are hazy, I think there's a fractured psyche for church?
Tourtuing him psychologically alot and regularly until a part of his psyche/emotion grows too large/unstable and has to be removed from him. If I'm remembering correctly and no we ain't doing that we are trying to avoid the Archie Eggman trappings that could drive a wedge between us and our kids we like.

And that is an archie eggman thing if I've ever seen one.
The Original Alpha AI of Project Freelancer (Alpha being like Cortana. Flash-cloned brain turned into a Smart AI. Specifically of Project Freelancer Director Lenard Church). Because Project Freelancer was only given the one AI, and they needed more, the Director decided to subject Alpha to a series of psychological torment/torture. As his mind fractured itself to ward off trauma and pain, the pieces became their own AI (each an aspect of Alpha's psyche).

The last fragment of Alpha (after giving up even memory) was implanted in an unwilling host (Private Jimmy). This effectively made Church an AI piloting an empty shell.

WE AIN'T DOING A PROJECT FREELANCER, IT'S BOTH UNNECESSARY AND INCREDIBLY CRUEL FOR NO REASON.

JUST KILL THE BASTARDS OR MIND WIPE THEM, NO NEED FOR THE ROUNDABOUT TOURTE METHODS OF PROJECT FREELANCER.

Its just cruelty for the sake of it in our position.
 
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Tourtuing him psychologically alot and regularly until a part of his psyche/emotion grows too large/unstable and has to be removed from him. If I'm remembering correctly and no we ain't doing that we are trying to avoid the Archie Eggman trappings that could drive a wedge between us and our kids we like.

And that is an archie eggman thing if I've ever seen one.


WE AIN'T DOING A PROJECT FREELANCER, IT'S BOTH UNNECESSARY AND INCREDIBLY CRUEL FOR NO REASON.

JUST KILL THE BASTARDS OR MIND WIPE THEM, NO NEED FOR THE ROUNDABOUT TOURTE METHODS OF PROJECT FREELANCER.
Right right. Let's reserve the insanity for something that truly warrants it (which is probably scarce). Mind wipes it is.

Besides....it would not only be needlessly cruel (like you said)....the A.I fragments would rebel against us, potentially leading to a META....WE DON'T WANT A META ON OUR HANDS.
 
The Original Alpha AI of Project Freelancer (Alpha being like Cortana. Flash-cloned brain turned into a Smart AI. Specifically of Project Freelancer Director Lenard Church). Because Project Freelancer was only given the one AI, and they needed more, the Director decided to subject Alpha to a series of psychological torment/torture. As his mind fractured itself to ward off trauma and pain, the pieces became their own AI (each an aspect of Alpha's psyche).

The last fragment of Alpha (after giving up even memory) was implanted in an unwilling host (Private Jimmy). This effectively made Church an AI piloting an empty shell.
Ahh I see. The theory is sound.. but you've got the wrong subject.

See the thing about Brutus is that his mind is a copy of Fleetway Robotnik. Fleetway Robotnik is Pure Evil Incarnate. He came into being by complete accident sonic messing with the timeline and the chaos emeralds bathing him in the all the worlds evil when he wanted to get rid of it originally.

Any fragments from trauma sadly won't have the potential for good, the guy never had it in him in the first place. Hell a good dream of frolicking in the meadow peacefully is a nightmare to him.
 
Ahh I see. The theory is sound.. but you've got the wrong subject.

See the thing about Brutus is that his mind is a copy of Fleetway Robotnik. Fleetway Robotnik is Pure Evil Incarnate. He came into being by complete accident sonic messing with the timeline and the chaos emeralds bathing him in the all the worlds evil when he wanted to get rid of it originally.

Any fragments from trauma sadly won't have the potential for good, the guy never had it in him in the first place. Hell a good dream of frolicking in the meadow peacefully is a nightmare to him.
Well....now we know what sort of mental anguish to use if Brutus does something to warrant it.

So mind-wipe it is then....And perhaps a replacing of his internal hardware...just to be safe.
 
Tier 3 Badniks


Rexxon - One of your oldest models of badniks but still an incredibly powerful leviathan and absolute juggernaut in nautical warfare, Rexxon's own body is its greatest offense and defense, the plating making it incredibly tough while it can still move with surprising speeds.
Cost: 160 Metal
Badnik Cap: 13
Bonus: +40 to all combat rolls, +30 to all flee, pursuit, and patrol rolls
Master Robot: This unit has three hit points
Leviathan Plating: This unit is undamaged by unmodified attack rolls of 40 or less.
Jaws That Bite: Rexxon deals a minimum of two damage to any target it Succeeds against in combat. Bare Successes deal one damage.
Fish Out Of Water: All of Rexxon's bonuses are reduced by 30 if it is operating outside of water.

Big Chaser - This massive hermit crab badnik is truly one of my most powerful juggernauts! The outer shell provides an unstoppable level of defense while not slowing it in the slightest, the chaser able to pursue even that blasted hedgehog at its maximum speed thanks to its rockets! It even has laser cannons as well!
Cost: 150 Metal
Badnik Cap: 10
Bonus: +25 to all combat rolls, +40 to all flee and pursuit rolls.
Master Robot: This unit has three hit points.
There Is No Escape!: When attacking a fleeing foe, increase the combat bonus of this unit by 10.
Heavy Metal: This unit is undamaged by unmodified attack rolls of 30 or less.
Tail Lights: When fleeing, this unit suffers no penalties to its attack rolls due to rear mounted laser blasters.


Refreshinator - This big boy badnik is based on a ferris wheel and it was originally designed for Egg Planet Park, but it still works here. Upgraded from the lesser Rotatatron model, this one has got lasers and can fire electric pulses through its frame to keep any riders shockingly entertained! Hohoho!
Metal - 140
Badnik Cap: 9
Bonus: +30 to all combat rolls, +20 to entertainment rolls, +15 to all capture rolls
Master Robot: This unit has three hit points.
No Fair Wheel: This unit can force all foes in melee combat with it to succeed a DC70 Power check or suffer 1 damage from the massive electric pulses it fires.
Also A Ride: This unit can be installed as an actual Ferris Wheel and will be hidden from sight unless investigated and a DC90 Trickery check is passed.

Lady Ninja - I was fairly certain this was in the gatcha, but ah well. This feminine kunoichi bot has all of the classic ninja techniques along with a master of the Egg Ninja Arts! She's also equipped with multiple tools of the trade to make sure all of her ninjaing is done properly.
Metal - 180
Badnik Cap: 12
Bonus: +25 to all combat rolls, +40 to all stealth and infiltration rolls
Master Robot: This unit has three hit points.
Ninja Art: This unit has a variety of techniques that can give a series of context sensitive bonuses.
Femme Fatal: Trickery checks this unit makes against those attracted to the female form are made at advantage.
Mocking Blows: When this unit damages a foe, that foe must succeed a DC60 Brains check or they become distracted by Lady Ninja's mockery, giving them -10 to their next Trickery check.
Ninjas Work Alone: This unit works best without others to slow it down. If assigned to an action with other badniks, reduce its combat bonus by 5 and its Stealth and Infiltration bonuses by 10.

Mech Dragon - Originally created for that ungrateful Zeti Zavok, the Mech Dragon is a massive serpentine badnik. Equipped with flight boosters, energy weapons, fire cannons, and can electrify its entire body to discourage any who'd try to climb it, it's a nasty piece of work that I'm quite proud of.
Metal - 200
Badnik Cap: 15
Bonus: +40 to combat and patrol rolls, +20 to flee and pursuit rolls.
Master Robot: This unit has three hit points.
Heavy Metal Scales: This unit is undamaged by unmodified attack rolls of 35 or less.
Here Be Dragons: Any foe attempting to infiltrate or enter an area patrolled by this unit suffers a -20 malus.
Flame Breath: This unit can unleash a blast of fire that forces all foes targeted by it to make a DC70 Power check, with all failing suffering one damage and being set on fire.
Overlord Overload: This unit can increase its combat bonus by 1.5 for a single round of combat in exchange for removing its Heavy Metal Scales bonus and increasing the Critical Success range of foes by 5 for that round of combat.

Egg Golem
Metal - 150
Badnik Cap: 14
Bonus: +30 to combat rolls
Master Robot: This unit has three hit points
Fortress Guardian: When this unit is deployed to a base, fortress or other facility, it can take one of two mutually exclusive modes, sentry or production. In sentry mode, it can act in defense and all foe infiltration rolls receive a -15 malus. In production mode, the Egg Golem automatically participates in all allied Power and Logistic actions taken in the facility to give them a +15 bonus, even if the action has a Badnik cap of 0. However all affected actions with a Badnik cap will have the Egg Golem's cost applied and the Egg Golem is incapable of taking part in combat or defending itself. The Egg Golem can swap between modes at the start of each turn and will remain in the assigned mode until ordered otherwise.
Bound By Stone: This unit has a -10 malus to all rolls when not assigned to a base, fortress, or other facility.
From Dust We Return: If this unit is destroyed, its repair cost is doubled.
 
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Why would we want Brutus of all people to work for us, if anything we should just scrap him and be done with it.

No second chances, no attempts for betrayal either submit or die.
 
hmm the double the repair cost is a wince, but having multiple of these along with the egg-searchers will be enjoyable to keep infiltrators out of our turf.
 
Why would we want Brutus of all people to work for us, if anything we should just scrap him and be done with it.

No second chances, no attempts for betrayal either submit or die.
Another competent commander. But due to his mind/personality, it would be best if we mind-wipe him. That would be the only way he would serve us willingly. But scrapping him might become the thing to do. That's if we DO run into him.

hmm the double the repair cost is a wince, but having multiple of these along with the egg-searchers will be enjoyable to keep infiltrators out of our turf.
Hm.....Egg Searchers could be quite helpful sentries.
 
Why would we want Brutus of all people to work for us, if anything we should just scrap him and be done with it.

No second chances, no attempts for betrayal either submit or die.

Ehh I'd say depends on the balance between the value of the unit and the dangers they present if they go traitor again.

Brutus Falls on the not worth the trouble to better off dead side of the scale, I'm already iffy with the potential for fleetway eggman to surface in our mind we are not dealing with his robotic understudy aswell.
 
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