Scientia Weaponizes The Future

That said taking a job to kidnap a teenage girl seems a bit outside of the wheelhouse of what Grue would be comfortable with, though he might have been woobified through the lens of Taylor being the protagonist in canon and fanfiction usually presenting him as an ok guy.
Kidnapping wasn't the stated objective. It was more likely to have been marketed along the lines of 'we're gonna go scare the bitch who outed me', which...does not win any awards for truthfulness on several counts. Sophia probably had murder or at least violent retribution in mind, but Tattletale was under orders to keep Sophia happy enough that she would work for Coil instead of looking somewhere else for options so she didn't object.
 
Apocrypha - Terrifying
Could you imagine the debriefing later?

Piggot: "This is getting ridiculous. What can you tell me?"​
Velocity: "She might not be a parahuman, but that is one damned scary teenager."​
Piggot: -unimpressed- "And how is a teenage girl terrifying, exactly?"​
Velocity: "Honestly, between her diction, attitude, ability, tone of voice... she reminds me of you ma'am."​
...
Piggot: -picks up phone- "Sergeant Peterson." --- "Sergeant, I need you to do a recruitment pass. Show the flag, show the benefits, internship, etcetera." --- "File number 49148A12; Hebert, Taylor A." --- "I have a good feeling about this one." -Hangs up the phone-
Velocity: "All that from what I said?"​
Piggot: "If she's even remotely like me, I want her. God knows we need more common sense around here."​
 
Unless maybe you had some magic algorithm that made it less of a ridiculous brute force thing and drastically reduced the problem space, but even then.
That would be legitimate science fiction. The existence of algorithms that don't work in his part of our universe because mathematics itself is effected by a galaxy-spanning field is part of the backstory of Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the Deep".


This is something The Matrix got wrong; you can't really harvest neurons for electrical power.
I ignore that part of The Matrix and assume they're using human brains for something computational.

Also the "sequels" don't count except for the one scene where Trinity uses nmap.
 
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Has anyone pointed out yet that Lisa already knew about Coil's identity and power by the time of worm start?
 
"He's a PRT consultant, which is how he gets a lot of his information. The rest he gets by using his power, which is a precog-like ability that allows him to model two different universes where he makes different choices, then choose the one he wants to keep. The rest of his information he gets by doing things in dropped timelines, like kidnapping and torturing his underlings to death to find out things about them," I continued.

Do you know that she already know that in canon, don't you? TT not knowing his power is fanon.
 
Do you know that she already know that in canon, don't you? TT not knowing his power is fanon.
Always confused me that if she knew his power then why stay around instead of, i dunno join accord or the elite, hell anybody else but the guy who gets off on torturing you

If she knew his power as intimately as you imply then coil should never have been able to keep her leashed unless she played along because she was his only thinker

She made herself expendable once dinah was kidnapped and trapped in a shitty situation that she had embraced prior because she's a piece of amoral shit and karma is a bitch.

Because if she knew his power that well there should be no reason she doesn't know about him kidnapping a child
 
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Always confused me that if she knew his power then why stay around instead of, i dunno join accord or the elite, hell anybody else but the guy who gets off on torturing you

If she knew his power as intimately as you imply then coil should never have been able to keep her leashed unless she played along because she was his only thinker

She made herself expendable once dinah was kidnapped and trapped in a shitty situation that she had embraced prior because she's a piece of amoral shit and karma is a bitch.

Because if she knew his power that well there should be no reason she doesn't know about him kidnapping a child
Yes, this bugs me too. Coil telling her how his power worked outside a disposable timeline seems like a poor decision for Coil, who usually makes pretty good decisions in the context of applying proper paranoia. He knows that Tattletale isn't loyal to him, after all.
 
Discussed. Why waste his power on an 4v1 home assault when to the best of his current knowledge the target's only managed to hand Shadow Stalker her own ass? They have the advantage in every conceivable fashion, so why would he think they needed the security net.
Because they had absolutely none of the advantages and were going in with extremely low odds of success. Oh, sure, the normal kid should have been toast, no arguments there, but the objective of the mission was not to attack Taylor. The objective of the mission was to recruit Shadow Stalker. She despises Grue's power, is engaging in a personal grudge that none of the others care about, is after someone being watched by the P.aR.T.y, has to get along with Hellhound, who is practically insane and who Shadow Stalker will be insensitive towards, Grue, whose raging ego will make everything difficult, Tattletale whose power Shadow Stalker will desperately want to mind its own business... . Coil's actual objective for this mission is very precarious. Now, maybe he just doesn't care if Shadow Stalker joins up, and mostly wants a distraction, or is happy for The Undersiders to just have a common enemy to hate, but that the mission was a sure thing is very much not the case.
Guns are the great equalizer 99% of the time. It's just that most normies don't think they can compete with Parahumans, so they don't try.
Not even slightly. Grue is basically immune to long-ranged weapons once his power is up, and at night he would probably want to just make the house disappear rather than risk people seeing a bunch of capes standing around. A black mound where a house used to be is less obvious than giant mutant lizards and people playing dress-up. So his power probably should have been up somewhat, but whatever. His power messes with sound so it really isn't plausible to have even the faintest idea of where he is until there is a ball-peen getting physical with your thumb and guns are not your friend, and even then you only know that he is close, not which direction he is in. Even with her power Sci only stood a chance because he wasn't making even the slightest actual effort.

The giant mutant lizards are largely immune to pistols. Assuming that they were used to operating via smell only in Grue's darkness, they still ought to have been a very real threat. It was more shack than disability that took Angelica down. The gun wasn't nearly enough, except that Hellhound is allergic to being sensible about which dogs are best for which roles. Some dogs can ignore pistols, one dog can use a first-aid kit, this is not rocket science(Sci should get brain surgery and rocketry for meme value).

Tattletale can read all sorts of stuff about someone's willingness to kill someone, the moment that they will pull the trigger, where they are likely to aim, what will distract or dissuade them... . Guns can take her down just fine, but it is by no means a fair fight.

Shadow Stalker took a bullet to the eye with no obvious ill effect.

Guns help reduce the gap, but by no means make anything equal.
It is still January, after all, and I've personally known people who just leave string lights up year-round.

Definitely plausible.
Though covering the door is a bit odd. By no means unheard of, but...
And he doesn't know for sure. One of his guesses is Probability Manipulation.
Terminology fail. When Coil talks about probability manipulation, he means controlling which outcome tossing a coin will produce. There is a probability of heads or tails, he would be controlling which outcome would result. This very much is not his power, and is very explicitly something which he fakes.
Sophia is Manton-limited.
Then she's a lot stupider than I ever took her for, since she phases through punches often enough. But she and things she affects CAN phase through flesh, no matter how unpleasant. If she were Manton limited, she couldn't do that.
The limit is not rigidly defined. There are multiple interpretations. Are rather obvios example would be that Shadow Stalker would be able to phase through people, but not able to phase people into shadow. Of course, her case is really weird from that perspective, because she can phase objects and then separate from them, at which point it pretty much isn't
"only phase your person and its accessories" anymore, so her whole relatonship with Manton limitation is very oddball. But it remains that it is far more complicated than just "yes or no".
Physically possible close combat gun stuff is now something she knows, yes. It's a synergy between guns and martial arts.
Can she dual-wield, guns akimbo, blindfolded... shoe-guns? Does "guns" include naval artillery? Flame-throwers? Rockets(if you turn them around and pretend that you are "shooting" the exhaust)? Bicep sculpting and posing etiquette? Railguns, coilguns, laserguns, lightning guns, plasmaguns, blowguns, mantis shrimp, beebeeguns, beeguns, gun accessories, or bullets? And how to design/manufacture such?
How in the hell did Grue accept this?!
As much as he will have issues with Shadow Stalker, there is also the issue of his all-important reputation, and beating up a little girl all tucked up in her little bed. I mean, it would be nice to think that this wouldn't get out, but, well, P.R.T. involvement and a common association between the victim, Shadow Stalker, and The Undersiders.
 
Yes, this bugs me too. Coil telling her how his power worked outside a disposable timeline seems like a poor decision for Coil, who usually makes pretty good decisions in the context of applying proper paranoia. He knows that Tattletale isn't loyal to him, after all.
I mean, he is human. Maybe he just wanted his gloating to stay real rather than be forgotten, he is also the type to like rubbing something like that in.
It's against his usual MO, but not inconceivable.
 
Yes, this bugs me too. Coil telling her how his power worked outside a disposable timeline seems like a poor decision for Coil, who usually makes pretty good decisions in the context of applying proper paranoia. He knows that Tattletale isn't loyal to him, after all.
Could just be that coil enjoys lording the fact that she can't escape over her but yeah there's lots of little inconsistent things in canon worm that just seem to happen where the abilities and competence of characters fluctuate to advance the story down the path of grimderp instead of established character narratives or common sense


Gotta throw this out there,

NONE OF THE UNDERSIDERS ARE IMMUNE TO BULLETS
THEY CAN BE HARD TO HIT BUT IF YOU SPRAY A TECH-9 AT WAIST HEIGHT LEFT TO RIGHT INTO A CLOUD OF DARKNESS I GVE IT 50/50 THAT GRUE DIES

The rest of the world isnt as craptacular as BB because cops will shoot capes and most places don't have as many as BB, the PRT have most of the martial might in BB and they stay non-lethal for PR and possible recruiting while neuturing the actual cops
 
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Can she dual-wield, guns akimbo, blindfolded... shoe-guns? Does "guns" include naval artillery? Flame-throwers? Rockets(if you turn them around and pretend that you are "shooting" the exhaust)? Bicep sculpting and posing etiquette? Railguns, coilguns, laserguns, lightning guns, plasmaguns, blowguns, mantis shrimp, beebeeguns, beeguns, gun accessories, or bullets? And how to design/manufacture such?
Yes, next fight she'll be firing two guns that manufacture confused and ornery mantis shrimp at her enemies while blindfolded. Truly terrifying.
 
Ok first point - I'm getting the feeling like Taylor's rolling consistent 1s for parahuman encounters cuz hasn't from time to trigger to now been less than a month and she's been in what, 3 major altercations? Only one of which she technically went looking for.

Second point - couldn't she have shot Stalker's crossbow to damage or disarm, considering she mentions being able to hit Tat's gun if necessary? Would have definitely forced SS to either quickly break off or close in for CQC which would benefit Taylor either way.

Having said that, kudos to the author for writing some rather engaging fight scenes. Really drives home how much happens in such a short space of time.
 
Can she dual-wield, guns akimbo, blindfolded... shoe-guns? Does "guns" include naval artillery? Flame-throwers? Rockets(if you turn them around and pretend that you are "shooting" the exhaust)? Bicep sculpting and posing etiquette? Railguns, coilguns, laserguns, lightning guns, plasmaguns, blowguns, mantis shrimp, beebeeguns, beeguns, gun accessories, or bullets? And how to design/manufacture such
The motes went into 'Firearms' wich should include the creation, maintenance use and history of them from the first musket to whatever year in the future is available through her power but my guess is handheld ranged weaponry with solid projectiles so possible railgun pistols to crazy ammunition that can kill anything organic (thermite rounds?) Who knows some of the shit we can do with firearms now is insane with bleeding edge tech from the future anything's possible

Artillery and explosives would be something else but if its got a handle, trigger and barrel she should be set

So yes to flamethrowers and anything with the word gun because weapons are designed to be used a specific way and follow a general aesthetic of use and design looking at current firearms compared to the past as we advance we streamline the tech and ease of use is always a priority
 
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NONE OF THE UNDERSIDERS ARE IMMUNE TO BULLETS
THEY CAN BE HARD TO HIT BUT IF YOU SPRAY A TECH-9 AT WAIST HEIGHT LEFT TO RIGHT INTO A CLOUD OF DARKNESS I GVE IT 50/50 THAT GRUE DIES
As I recall, it's fairly standard for capes to invest in reasonably bulletproof costumes. I believe they complain about how expensive good costumes are for that reason.
 
I'm getting the feeling like Taylor's rolling consistent 1s for parahuman encounters
The C.Y.O.A. has various options, including some quite fundamanetal ones(most prominently the difficulty setting, which pretty much needs to be set at maximum), that provide a bonus to interesting times. It may well be that Sci is literally cursed. Of course, the fiction doesn't seem to be adhering perfectly to the C.Y.O.A., so there is some leeway there, but, well, she was subject to two attempts on her life before she first woke up, I am guessing that at least one of the enemy options was chosen.
 
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As I recall, it's fairly standard for capes to invest in reasonably bulletproof costumes. I believe they complain about how expensive good costumes are for that reason.
Bullet proof isn't actually bullet proof just like things that are flame proof can still catch on fire, it would stop a couple of shots from being lethal before it's compromised and teens working for a couple grand a job don't have enough cash for a basic bullet proof vest or body armor that can still only take a couple of rounds before being broken and while it would keep the bullets from killing you outright broken ribs, internal bleeding, concussions and bone fractures will still occur

The rounds from modern assault rifles do more damage in passing because the speed with wich they hit cause pressure in the human body that will pulp organs and anyone with firearm training aims center mass but failure to stop drills (when they don't collapse after getting shot in the chest) means you put one round in the pelvis (the bone) and shatter it so they fall and stay down

Wildblows idea of cape life wouldn't function without cauldron or simurgh because humans and i do mean the average joes would murder the fuck out of people with powers based on just how outnumbered they would be and how angry a populace can become at casual murder of friends and family

And most definitely in america where we have more guns per capita then anywhere else in the world hell if the undersiders had tried to rob a bank in Texas i guarantee at least one of them would have died

Its all fun and games til the hostage pulls out his handcannon and puts three rounds in your chest, certain states have concealed carry laws and crime really doesn't pay
 
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The C.Y.O.A. has various options, including some quite fundamanetal ones(most prominently the difficulty setting, which pretty much needs to be set at maximum), that provide a bonus to interesting times. It may well be that Sci is literally cursed. Of course, the fiction doesn't seem to be adhering perfectly to the C.Y.O.A., so there is some leeway there, but, well, she was subject to two attempts on her life before she first woke up, I am guessing that at least one of the enemy options was chosen.
The fiction was inspired by the CYOA, but apparently that's all it owes to the CYOA - inspiration. The CYOA's mechanics aren't at play here, as far as I understand it. I mean...Correct me if I'm wrong, obviously, but that's certainly what I think I've heard.

Edit: And I have just been rated Informative by the author, so I think I heard correctly.
 
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The C.Y.O.A. has various options, including some quite fundamanetal ones(most prominently the difficulty setting, which pretty much needs to be set at maximum), that provide a bonus to interesting times. It may well be that Sci is literally cursed. Of course, the fiction doesn't seem to be adhering perfectly to the C.Y.O.A., so there is some leeway there, but, well, she was subject to two attempts on her life before she first woke up, I am guessing that at least one of the enemy options was chosen.
It's better than being bored, right? XD

There's a certain philosophy in narrative design that exciting books should alternate action chapters and chapters where the characters figure out what happened and what they want to do next and then more action and then more taking stock and then more action and so on and so forth until the story is done. You don't have to write books that way, but it reliably creates the sort of book you can't put down.

I'm not a purist, but that philosophy informs what I do in terms of not letting our protagonist get lost in laying plans and developing tech for too many chapters without doing something or something happening. Compelling narrative requires conflict. Also, I like writing fight scenes.

The fiction was inspired by the CYOA, but apparently that's all it owes to the CYOA - inspiration. The CYOA's mechanics aren't at play here, as far as I understand it. I mean...Correct me if I'm wrong, obviously, but that's certainly what I think I've heard.
Correct. There's a solid explanation for our protagonist's power and where it comes from and why she's got it, and why it does what it does. There's also an explanation for why she got so sick. And the whole insert thing. And reading Worm.
 
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