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Scientia Weaponizes The Future

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TJG said:
Couldn't Taylor just tell Piggot the information on Coil/Calvert by saying Tattletale said it as an appeasement and exchange for getting away and that she had a gun too so she decided that discretion would be best and not shoot her? It would look plausible and get them to get rid of Coil and look for every mole, backdoor, and breaks in their security (which might also roll up any infiltration by the other gangs too).
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It wouldn't work tattletale is a known thinker with unknown abilities the procedure to dealing with them is to literally not let them talk and not believe anything they say, the fact that she had a gun pointed at her only lend credence to this as Mike euhrmantraut said : "everyone is Meryl streep when a gun is pointed at they're head".

to piggot It would be the word of the Cape whose power is only good for manipulation vs that of Thomas Calvert the one guy along side her who stared hell in the eye and didn't flinch let alone ran and still survived.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
...Stalker tried to go through my front door only to get electrocuted by the Christmas lights strung up behind it.
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Piggot: "And how, exactly, did she know that Shadow Stupid's main weakness is the happiness and joy of Christmas?"

Armsmaster: "She did have to deal with the little Grinch for almost two years, Director."

Piggot: "Fair enough."
 
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Corvus Black said:
I mean, he'd only have to stare at her.

Phasing through wiring being a Bad Idea is common fucking sense.
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Stalker's power could ignore it, without special knowledge there's no reason to know that it can't. So from the PRT's perspective either our protagonist knew and rigged the lights up intentionally, or she just got lucky because there were still Christmas lights up that happened to be in the right spot.
 
supermou3ad said:
to piggot It would be the word of the Cape whose power is only good for manipulation vs that of Thomas Calvert the one guy along side her who stared hell in the eye and didn't flinch let alone ran and still survived.
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Except Piggot quite explicitly loathes the man who survived by literally shooting his CO in the back, and only tolerates him because she has no real alternatives and can't turn down a competent contractor.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
Stalker's power could ignore it, without special knowledge there's no reason to know that it can't. So from the PRT's perspective either our protagonist knew and rigged the lights up intentionally, or she just got lucky because there were still Christmas lights up that happened to be in the right spot.
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Sophia cannot ignore wiring. It's one of her main weaknesses.

She can go around it, but she can't just go straight through it.
 
Corvus Black said:
Why would you not believe that to be the case?
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Because powers are bullshit. Powers are random if you don't know the logic behind them. Sophia melts into incorporeal shadow, so you'd think light would be her bane, or fire (which makes light). She can pass through living bodies, so obviously the electricity there (which runs the entire nervous system, as well as the regulation of the heartbeat) isn't that much of an issue, and she can go shadow with electronics on her person. Why would electricity be a problem?
 
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Lord Sia said:
Except Piggot quite explicitly loathes the man who survived by literally shooting his CO in the back, and only tolerates him because she has no real alternatives and can't turn down a competent contractor.
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I'm fairly sure that that's fanon, and i don't think we ever get into why Piggot hired Calvert, I find the idea that she did because they are the last surviving veterans of the same battle much more plausible than her knowing that he is a backstabber but still keeping because she somehow couldn't find a replacement in the entirety of Brockton.
 
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LostArchivist said:
The former--didn't she end up in contact with the ROB, who mentioned that she had those powers as a result of the original dying and it needing to keep its agreement?
I know I read something with a similar start recently, though, so I may be confusing them.
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Not this fic, although I'm curious which one that was.
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A Ghost of a Chance (link (SB)), I believe.
The reason I think it's that, is because aforementioned ROB grabbed someone who proceeded to have an allergic reaction to something in surgical anesthesia and die. ...I don't actually know why that matters, come to think of it. But anyway, the end shot was 'Taylor's driving now' and she certainly didn't feel like going back to somewhere that wasn't her world, so she renegotiated for the stakes to be "Taylor vs. the Entities, battle of champions".
 
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supermou3ad said:
I'm fairly sure that that's fanon, and i don't think we ever get into why Piggot hired Calvert, I find the idea that she did because they are the last surviving veterans of the same battle much more plausible than her knowing that he is a backstabber but still keeping because she somehow couldn't find a replacement in the entirety of Brockton.
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The part where Piggot despises Calvert because he shot his superior to survive is definitely canon. As far as Calvert's dealings with Piggot, I was under the impression that he was still employed by the PRT in some fashion (but not as a contractor), given that part of his ultimate plan was to become the PRT director for BB(why would the PRT make a private contractor a PRT director). I think the "Thomas Calvert is a private contractor" thing is fanon, along with the idea that he owns a business called "Fortress Construction".
 
MagicalAmbitions said:
The part where Piggot despises Calvert because he shot his superior to survive is definitely canon. As far as Calvert's dealings with Piggot, I was under the impression that he was still employed by the PRT in some fashion (but not as a contractor), given that part of his ultimate plan was to become the PRT director for BB(why would the PRT make a private contractor a PRT director). I think the "Thomas Calvert is a private contractor" thing is fanon, along with the idea that he owns a business called "Fortress Construction".
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He's a consultant according to the wiki, but I don't have a story citation handy.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
The rest he gets by using his power, which is a precog-like ability that allows him to model two different universes where he makes different choices, then choose the one he wants to keep. The rest of his information he gets by doing things in dropped timelines, like kidnapping and torturing his underlings to death to find out things about them," I continued.
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I'm actually pretty sure this is information Tattletale already knew by story start, from my exposure to people correcting this recurrent piece of fanon. Tattletale knew that Coil thought he was splitting timelines. Furthermore, Coil didn't start the torturing underlings until later on, IIRC, since he never knew when he might be forced to keep a timeline unexpectedly. He did do it, but only to people he wouldn't mind losing, at least initially.
 
People always say 'But thats fanon!' when they say something they don't believe is correct or violates their own image of a story.

The first rule of good Fanfiction: Never let canon get in the way of a good story.

The second rule of good Worm Fanfiction: Wildbow is a dick and anything he says should never be taken as anything more then a suggestion for canon.
 
BurnBright said:
I'm actually pretty sure this is information Tattletale already knew by story start, from my exposure to people correcting this recurrent piece of fanon. Tattletale knew that Coil thought he was splitting timelines. Furthermore, Coil didn't start the torturing underlings until later on, IIRC, since he never knew when he might be forced to keep a timeline unexpectedly. He did do it, but only to people he wouldn't mind losing, at least initially.
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It's not. She knew as much as Coil did.

We find this out in Coil's interlude.

Interlude 8.x Coil said:
He often wondered if he really was creating the realities, or if it was solely in his perception, foretelling futures to the extent that they hinged on his actions. He'd asked his Tattletale, and she hadn't had an answer for him.
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TaliesinSkye said:
I offered her a level look that cut off whatever she was about to say, and lowered my voice. "You're one of the strongest thinkers in the world, Lisa. Your power can tell you something about anything you see. It even bypasses the thinker immunity Scion, Eidolon, and the Endbringers use. But there's always a bigger fish, isn't there?" I said.

Tattletale paled. I was implying that there were things scarier than parahumans, and she'd just pissed one off. My knowledge of her preferred name and of her power would make that claim somewhat more credible. And likely also send her towards terrifying conclusions. I wished I knew what else it was telling her, though.
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I'd like to know Lisa's thoughts during all of this.

*Taylor Hebert's body.*

*Not Taylor Hebert.*

*Is spiritually possessing Taylor Hebert's body and pretending to be her.*

*Is much older than she appears.*

*Is pretending to be a normal human.*

*Is not actually from this world.*

*Has knowledge from outside of time and space and this dimension, things that would explode a human mind if they were known in their entirety.*

'Oh my god, she's some sort of paranormal eldritch abomination wearing Taylor Hebert's skin like a literal meat-puppet!'
 
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