Sartier Quest: A Tale of Song, Gods, and Trouble (CK2-Let's Go Hunt Gods, SV!)

Quest - Turn 2 Mid-Turn
Sartier Quest - Spring, Turn2, Year 1 (Mid-turn)

[This post contains a number of interrupt/response options to allow you to react to other events within Sartier. You have 2 (TWO) remaining Influence Point to use]


With nary a cloud in the sky, Billfarthing Harbour seems primed to receive Alice Ruger and the rest of the Khironex with her.

You stand away from the masses of humanity around you, here to witness the pure spectacle of a Nexi ship and its representative. As you look around you, the sheer diversity of clothing and faces is close to overwhelming. Here, the rich silk and velvet nobles are wont to wear, there the fustian and coarse-woven cloth of commoners. Then of course, there are the skin colours, ranging from coffee with a spoonful of cream through to aged bone, depending on how often one needs be in the sun.

At least it would be overwhelming if you were standing in the middle of it, you suppose. Even if your father hadn't insisted on the necessary precautions, you'd be reluctant to be near your subjects. There was simply no telling what those who didn't understand their place in life might presume. Hana, of course, would be delighted at all of the people from different walks of life, but then, her naivete in this particular area has always been a point of difference between you. Before you can continue further down that distasteful path, a dull murmur begins followed by a ripple of movement in the crowd.

A smile spreads across your lips as the distinctive single sail of Alice's trireme comes into view dyed a brilliant scarlet. You're transported back to your days on the docks of Cyanea, Khironex's capital city, where sails of varying Nexi houses billowed like jewels come to life. Back then, you were nothing but another young Sartieran noble out seeking adventure, chasing experience like your aunt and mother before you. It was only by pure luck that Alice had taken a struck up a friendship with you, freshly landed deckhand to dock rat cum stowaway. And only luck that her mother rose to power as the clan's Sea Bell in the years that followed. Of course, elevating yourself beyond stowaway status had admittedly been all you, something Alice often liked to remind you of at inconvenient times.

You had both come a long way since then, you reflect, some good and some less so. Your hand twitches again to your longsword but you stop yourself before it actually gets there. Despite the news being more than a week old at this stage, the news that Arnold Vincennes has mysteriously escaped House Vincennes' custody is still as unbelievable as it is infuriating. You don't know whether or not to believe Vincennes' continuing protests that they knew nothing about his affairs beyond those specific to Vincennes and their flat denial of any involvement with Teuvians, secret or otherwise. Regardless of whether they are excuses or reasons, the fact remains that Arnold has escaped. Rumours have slowly trickled back through the admittedly fervent efforts of both Jessica Vincennes, Vincennes Spymaster, and in a rare gift horse of cooperation you're looking squarely in the mouth, Alouette Mistlehaim, wily Capo Spymaster, that Arnold has fled to Renmi of all places.

As the former launching pad and current foreign stronghold of Teuv forces, Arnold's departure for their populous if overly craven shores serves as a rather potent admission of his involvement with the land of false gods and furthering their cause. Certainly more strongly than all of the suppositions and circumstance that was laid out, albeit as well as could have been expected, in Carmen Rios' investigation from months before. Hamid would rather just see Arnold's head in a sack, decomposing or otherwise, but your personal preference is that he face Sartieran justice. Not that either of your opinions matter in this case. Symphony Tellar has made its choice, and is even is...

[ ][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...issuing a substantial Bounty for him, dead or alive, to persuade others to pick up the trail. [0 Influence, sets aside 6,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...leave a Warrant for his Arrest. He'll never be able to return home. [0 Influence, 0g]

But that still leaves the matter of dealing with Vassal House Vincennes, and their ruling pair of Allison and Gordon Vincennes. Debate echoes in the halls of the Barossa Citadel as everyone from the Symphony themselves to Courtiers to scullery servants debate Vincennes. In the end, the feasible options boiled down to...

[ ][SANCTION] ...letting the current punishment stand, rather than further cripple an important vassal. [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relation to House Dale]
[ ][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]
[ ][SANCTION] Offer to Waive Sanctions in exchange for Mezzo stepping down [2 Influence Cost, -4 Relations with Vincennes, -1 with other Vassals, triggers a Succession in House Vincennes]

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A month passes with Etela as your comfortable home away from home before you hear how the presentation of the House Dale Executive, Lana Antilles, went, courtesy of a courier from your family. To your great surprise you learn that not only had Lana Antilles arrived as demanded to the Court at Harper, but she had come escorted by Lucas and Theresa Capo, who had presented their vassal to your father and aunt.

It is a message the more skilled courtiers recognise instantly: Capo recognises the need for punishment, but no further. Carentan and Arbalen are strong provinces and will not be dictated to. Of course, they certainly don't tell Lana Antilles this is the case, so apparently she was white with anxiety when she appeared before the Court.

[Capo invest 2 Influence Points to Block Further Action on Lana Antilles ]

But Chivalry is a powerful thing. Personally, you wish that you were there to see Lucas' face when despite his efforts, Lana abased herself before the Tellar Symphony, begging for a way to reclaim the honour lost from your declarations. You have met Lana Antilles before, and you know she is the sort of noble who considers herself to be nothing without her chivalry. In order to provide her a way out productive to the Tellar, Antonia mandated that Lana...

[ ][LANA] Join a Khironex attack on a makeshift pirate camp. When Alice docked in Billfarthing she warned you that a pirate base has been newly founded on a small island in the seas east of Tellar. Alice is open to joining your fleets with her Clan fleet to wipe it out before it becomes a problem. [+1 Relations with Khironex, joint Sartier-Khironex attack on Tranquility forward base next turn]
[ ][LANA] Personally join the hunt for Arnold Vincennes, to drag him out of his Renmi hiding hold. Her Exchequer will take over her duties with the Marshall's help, and they should be able to hold the fort for now. It puts a very potent force on Arnold's tail. [Lana departs Dale and does not return until Arnold is dealt with]
[ ][LANA] When next Tellar goes into battle, Lana is honour-bound to bring her Spellknights and leads the charge. [Requires a certain amount of lead-time to effect]

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Another month on and you are asked by your Symphony for your opinion on some new additions to the court.

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As the season went on the Tellar agents returned details of likely youths that they had met who had the potential to be the new Secretary for Andres Tellar. With a lot of arguments and debate, a four person short list had been devised.

Executive Secretaries
[ ][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]
[ ][SEC] Violet Tsu, from one of your own Minor Houses, who currently resides in Harper. She is a natural general, but an able diplomat who could help and learn much at Andres' side. [Improved Minor House relations, helps reconnect to a particular relative]
[ ][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys. A hotheaded young man, in need of some guidance. A relative of the ruling pair of Antilles, they would look favourably upon this placement. [Increase ties to Antilles, slows down build up of Tarrant-Antilles hostilities]
[ ][SEC] Caitlyn Timbre, the sister of Laurent Timbre, who came to Evelyn's attention when she arrived in Etela on an errand for her brother. A few discreet inquiries tells you that Timbre would be glad for you to help the girl realise her potential. [Increased ties with Timbre, will help their young court gain influence and make Carlisle happy]

Fostering in Sartier is a seasonal thing. Children are paired up with children around their age and sent to peer houses. Of course, not every House has children in precisely the right age bracket and temperament, so sometimes you stretch a little further to your relations and in-laws to find the right match.

Tarrant has taken you up on your offer of exchanging fosters. After a little wrangling and finessing, John and Alice Tarrant reached a proposal that they have tentatively agreed to with Juan Lumen, who is presenting it to you in turn. Jessica Ritter is a very promising young noble with strong ties to the Tarrant family through Alice. She would make a good partner for Shannon, with both of them having a similar focus.
[ ][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon Tellar, 14 (2nd in Line), and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[ ][TARRANT] Decline Fostering agreement

Sonissimmo was a trickier task, however with Rita Hulland there personally, a potential offer was soon worked out. Before Mezzo John Tarrant became a Tarrant, he was a member of Sonissimmo's own Minor House Quinn, and a second cousin to Symphony Hana Sonissimmo. His younger brother Peter would be a companion for the youngest Tellar child, Gregory.
[ ][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar, 12 (3rd in Line), and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]
[ ][SONN] Decline Fostering agreement

EDIT:
[ ] Recruitment - With the growth in tension and the fact that one of the land's premier generals has fled to a nominally unfriendly kingdom, Antonia is interested in setting up an army expansion ahead of schedule with some of the free time on her plate. [1 Influence Cost, gold crown cost as per troop types] (NB: Your Minor Houses are not allowed to support Professional troops, but each can support two more Semi slots. Please refer to Tellar datasheets if you want to see what everyone currently has)
-[ ] Write in: Recruitment plan (E.g., "1 House Longbows, 4 Harper Militia, 1 Harper Longbows")

[ ] The Root of the Tree - Arnold sat for years in the innermost counsels of the Vincennes. Now that he has fled his Teuvian sympathies are lain bare. How deep did the rot go? Who was he connected to, who did he report to? Perhaps between you and the spymasters of the Capo you can find an answer. [25% base chance, 4,000g, 1 Influence Cost, Gain details on Arnold Vincennes]

[ ] It's Too Quiet - From across the seas the word comes in. Tranquility is, well, tranquil. They suffered a sharp rebuff in their failed, though frightfully close to victorious, attack on Lowenton, so maybe they are licking their wounds. But now Sea-Bellain Ruger tells you of an island base. What are the pirates up to? [35% base chance, Martial/Intrigue Test, 5,000g, 1 Influence Cost, investigate the cause for the calm seas]

Evelyn - Etela (with Alice)
Luna - Bouncing between Royal Army bases (Harper -> Billfarthing -> ship to Arbalen -> ship to Etela)
Juan - Tarrant (Harper -> Dockshaw -> Ship to Bartier)
May - Vincennes Harbour (Harper -> Billfarthing -> Ship to Marlingtay)
Monica - The Chiming Forest (Harper -> Chiming Forest)
Theo - Greater Carentan (Harper -> Billfarthing -> Ship to Carentan -> various)
Carmen - Etela (Harper -> Dockshaw -> Ship to Etela)
Dominic - Harper
Hamid - Harper
Georgie Hulland - Magic Research (Stays in Harper)
Charlie Tellar - Harper
Rita - Etela

None, the countryside is quiet after last turn was put down.

Tranquility is quiet, no sails on the horizon.
 
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That... went much better than I feared it would.

We'll be accepting the fostering agreements, obviously. As for Arnold Vincennes, I'm inclined to just want him dead, though there is something to be said for trying him before a full court of nobles.

We need to sanction the Vincennes in some way, but I'm uncertain as to how to go about it. Honestly, I'm half inclined to just levy another fine on them, they fucked up yes but they seem to be legitimately unhappy about that particular screw up.

@Macchiato do we have any early indications from Hamid as to what the state of the Teuv infestation in Vincennes is?
 
That... went much better than I feared it would.

We'll be accepting the fostering agreements, obviously. As for Arnold Vincennes, I'm inclined to just want him dead, though there is something to be said for trying him before a full court of nobles.

We need to sanction the Vincennes in some way, but I'm uncertain as to how to go about it. Honestly, I'm half inclined to just levy another fine on them, they fucked up yes but they seem to be legitimately unhappy about that particular screw up.

@Macchiato do we have any early indications from Hamid as to what the state of the Teuv infestation in Vincennes is?
It's actually really hard to keep my opinions to myself sometimes >.>

Anyway. Infiltration levels for Vincennes point to being high for Greater Harper but low for Sartier at large.
 
So guys, an idea. In between Turn, Mid-Turn, and Results posts, we're looking at doing... we'll call them World Tutorials.

Essentially, we'll put up a tutorial between Turn and Mid-Turn, Mid-Turn and Results, and Results and Turn, and it will give you lots of information on any one topic relevant to Sartier and the world it resides in. You guys can put forward topic suggestions/requests, and we'll provide any and all information that a Sartieran Great House noble would know on the subject. As an example, if you wanted to know more about Teuv and its gods, we'd only tell you as much as, say, an Evelyn might know on the topic, not everything ever known in all of existence. Also means no asking about game mechanics since obviously someone like Evelyn or Hana would just look at you like o_O.

Thoughts? (@OneirosTheWriter insists I mention that this is not the idea we were previously referring to re: changing the system)
 
[x][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]

Demonstrate that none may escape justice.

[x][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]

The actually important part however, is punishing who allowed this to happen so nobody follows up.

But triggering a succession after giving them -4 relations is practically certain to elevate someone who hates us.

[x][LANA] Join a Khironex attack on a makeshift pirate camp. When Alice docked in Billfarthing she warned you that a pirate base has been newly founded on a small island in the seas east of Tellar. Alice is open to joining your fleets with her Clan fleet to wipe it out before it becomes a problem. [+1 Relations with Khironex, joint Sartier-Khironex attack on Tranquility forward base next turn]

This is a good response and needs to be done anyway.

[x][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]

She has good potential, and Capo, at least, seems to be playing ball regarding punishments. So we mend bridges.

[x][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[x][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]

Whynot?

[X] The Root of the Tree

Rooty
 
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Thinking about it, I'd want to rephrase the sanction option to:

[ ][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]

Its more neutral that way, whilst previously it read like an accusation of complicity in Arnold Vincennes' escape.
 
Thinking about it, I'd want to rephrase the sanction option to:

[ ][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]

Its more neutral that way, whilst previously it read like an accusation of complicity in Arnold Vincennes' escape.
Hmm, okay, that's fair enough.

@veekie - Terribly sorry about this, the wording for one of the options you chose has been altered slightly to better fit.
 
There was simply no telling what those who didn't understand their place in life might presume.

You know, every time I read a line like this, there's this ache... right about... here, in my teeth. We really need to work on that at some point.

[Capo invest 2 Influence Points to Block Further Action on Lana Antilles ]

Huh. Kind of interesting to see what Influence looks like from the other side.

[ ][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys.

Theo found a Theo! They're breeding! Run for the hills! :V

None, every quiet after last turn was put down.

Oh, what? Inexhaustible waves of bandits and pirates aren't a turn-by-turn occurrence? What a novel idea :V

Plan-wise, though:

[X][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...issuing a substantial Bounty for him, dead or alive, to persuade others to pick up the trail. [0 Influence, sets aside 6,000g]

Hard to pick between these two. I'll go with the Influence option, at least partially because I'm not spending it anywhere else. It's also cheaper, and should help us cross him off the list of problems that we have to deal with.

[X][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]

I live for the turn when Vincennes stops f***ing up for just. One. Update. Because then we can stop kicking them in the shins over it. Seriously people, just one update! Pavlovian conditioning is hard to set up if there's no point at which you can give them a carrot rather than the stick.

[X][LANA] Join a Khironex attack on a makeshift pirate camp. When Alice docked in Billfarthing she warned you that a pirate base has been newly founded on a small island in the seas east of Tellar. Alice is open to joining your fleets with her Clan fleet to wipe it out before it becomes a problem. [+1 Relations with Khironex, joint Sartier-Khironex attack on Tranquility forward base next turn]

This is what Chivalry is good for, kicking ass and chewing bubblegum. And we? Haven't invented bubblegum.

[ ][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]

Probably a good pick overall... but I'd prefer to go with...

[X][SEC] Caitlyn Timbre, the sister of Laurent Timbre, who came to Evelyn's attention when she arrived in Etela on an errand for her brother. A few discreet inquiries tells you that Timbre would be glad for you to help the girl realise her potential. [Increased ties with Timbre, will help their young court gain influence and make Carlisle happy]

The option that will start getting us inroads with Timbre. This is exactly the kind of thing they're looking for, and helping Sonissimmo Houses can only help us mend those ties as well.

[X][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon Tellar, 14 (2nd in Line), and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[X][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar, 12 (3rd in Line), and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]

Duh.

Ah, there are many ways to skin a cat, and many ways for things to happen away from the eyes of one's liege...

Politics!!! :mad:
 
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Hmm, @Macchiato what happens if we don't use all our influence in the mid-turn? Does it disappear into thin air or does it carry over?
 
None, every quiet after last turn was put down.
Some awkward phrasing here.

She would make a good partner for .
for Shannon?

I like it, would match a lot of what I ask for during turn posts anyway, though I'll caveat in saying that hopefully doesn't slow down the actual turn process that much.

This is what Chivalry is good for, kicking ass and chewing bubblegum. And we? Haven't invented bubblegum.
I thought Chivalry was for not being dicks to each other. ;P

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@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato Can we select multiple options in some areas if we were inclined to? For example, can we put assassins out, and put a bounty out at the same time?

Also, what happened to the fines levied on Vincennes and Dale, into whose treasury did that go?

Actual reactions:
[ ][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...issuing a substantial Bounty for him, dead or alive, to persuade others to pick up the trail. [0 Influence, sets aside 6,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...leave a Warrant for his Arrest. He'll never be able to return home. [0 Influence, 0g]
As indicated above, my initial inclination would be either or possibly both of the harsher options. We have cash to spare at the moment even if I declared that I intended to spend a whole bunch of it next turn.

Also, yes, still laughing that Vincennes managed to fuck things up for another turn.

[ ][SANCTION] ...letting the current punishment stand, rather than further cripple an important vassal. [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relation to House Dale]
[ ][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]
[ ][SANCTION] Offer to Waive Sanctions in exchange for Mezzo stepping down [2 Influence Cost, -4 Relations with Vincennes, -1 with other Vassals, triggers a Succession in House Vincennes]
Change for the sake of change is pointless and dumb, since we don't know who precisely in their court is compromised. The middle option looks okay, though honestly I'd probably want to temper it further.

Oneiros, Macchiato, any chance of a slightly more moderate option than that? Allow replenishment of current forces (presumably this means current regiments back to full strength?), force recruitment to be okay'd by Tellar before being undertaken?

My fears are that hitting Vincennes' military only actually helps the Teuvians out even more, as a final fuck you from their agent where we do the predictable thing in response and cut off our noses to spite our faces.

[ ][LANA] Join a Khironex attack on a makeshift pirate camp. When Alice docked in Billfarthing she warned you that a pirate base has been newly founded on a small island in the seas east of Tellar. Alice is open to joining your fleets with her Clan fleet to wipe it out before it becomes a problem. [+1 Relations with Khironex, joint Sartier-Khironex attack on Tranquility forward base next turn]
[ ][LANA] Personally join the hunt for Arnold Vincennes, to drag him out of his Renmi hiding hold. Her Exchequer will take over her duties with the Marshall's help, and they should be able to hold the fort for now. It puts a very potent force on Arnold's tail. [Lana departs Dale and does not return until Arnold is dealt with]
[ ][LANA] When next Tellar goes into battle, Lana is honour-bound to bring her Spellknights and leads the charge. [Requires a certain amount of lead-time to effect]
The middle option is stupid because it effectively rewards her. "Hey, that guy whose family you hate and just raided you is a fugitive, I'm forcing you to go hunt for him to redeem yourself *winkwink*"

The last option looks bad to me because Tellar looks like it's capitalizing on what it considered a Sartier issue for its own gain in some sense.

So I think it's the first option by default here.

Executive Secretaries
[ ][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]
[ ][SEC] Violet Tsu, from one of your own Minor Houses, who currently resides in Harper. She is a natural general, but an able diplomat who could help and learn much at Andres' side. [Improved Minor House relations, helps reconnect to a particular relative]
[ ][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys. A hotheaded young man, in need of some guidance. A relative of the ruling pair of Antilles, they would look favourably upon this placement. [Increase ties to Antilles, slows down build up of Tarrant-Antilles hostilities]
[ ][SEC] Caitlyn Timbre, the sister of Laurent Timbre, who came to Evelyn's attention when she arrived in Etela on an errand for her brother. A few discreet inquiries tells you that Timbre would be glad for you to help the girl realise her potential. [Increased ties with Timbre, will help their young court gain influence and make Carlisle happy]
Hmmmm. Theo's Intrigue isn't the best so I don't know if I'm entirely comfortable trusting either Brittany or Theo (ha) to definitely not have Teuvian leanings. Brittany's tempting in spite of it, though. I don't yet care about Tarrant-Antilles hostilities which is perhaps the wrong attitude to take but I'm not sure I want to burn the Secretary posting just for that.

Violet Tsu is vaguely interesting to me if only because of the mystery box aspect but then again I hate mystery boxes, so! Oneiros/Macchiato, explicitly, can you tell us if is this Lea Tsu you're hinting towards or someone else?

Caitlyn Timbre also has potential in my eyes. Should be safer from being a Teuvian infiltrator, should help relations with another Etelan house, makes Carlisle happier. If memory serves, Timbre is the one where like all of their vets just retired and so they have a real experience problem. That said, the problem is that she won't necessarily be that competent on her own immediately, and by the time she maybe grows into her potential she'll take that home with her.

Tarrant has taken you up on your offer of exchanging fosters. After a little wrangling and finessing, John and Alice Tarrant reached a proposal that they have tentatively agreed to with Juan Lumen, who is presenting it to you in turn. Jessica Ritter is a very promising young noble with strong ties to the Tarrant family through Alice. She would make a good partner for .
[ ][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon Tellar, 14 (2nd in Line), and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[ ][TARRANT] Decline Fostering agreement

Sonissimmo was a trickier task, however with Rita Hulland there personally, a potential offer was soon worked out. Before Mezzo John Tarrant became a Tarrant, he was a member of Sonissimmo's own Minor House Quinn, and a second cousin to Symphony Hana Sonissimmo. His younger brother Peter would be a companion for the youngest Tellar child, Gregory.
[ ][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar, 12 (3rd in Line), and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]
[ ][SONN] Decline Fostering agreement
I don't see an issue with either fostering agreement here. Giving the plum choices to these two disallows fostering them to Capo areas if it was an issue but so be it, Sonissimmo's our internal diplomatic issue right now.
 
It was only by pure luck that Alice had taken a struck up a friendship with you,

This is not grammatically correct in a way that I'm guessing means you rewrote the sentence and missed a word you meant to remove. Or failed to add one. Guess either 'had taken a chance and struck up a friendship' or else simply 'had struck up a friendship'

She would make a good partner for .

Spectrum pointed this out already, but you seem to have missed a word.

Need more time to think about what options I want to take, personally.
 
At least it would be overwhelming if you were standing in the middle of it, you suppose. Even if your father hadn't insisted on the necessary precautions, you'd be reluctant to be near your subjects. There was simply no telling what those who didn't understand their place in life might presume. Hana, of course, would be delighted at all of the people from different walks of life, but then, her naivete in this particular area has always been a point of difference between you.

Hrm. You'd think that someone who spent time as a dock rat would have been exposed to people from different walks of life anyway. Well, I guess that's why Tellar is the magic house, and Sonissimo the stewards.

Despite the news being more than a week old at this stage, the news that Arnold Vincennes has mysteriously escaped House Vincennes' custody is still as unbelievable as it is infuriating. You don't know whether or not to believe Vincennes' continuing protests that they knew nothing about his affairs beyond those specific to Vincennes and their flat denial of any involvement with Teuvians, secret or otherwise. Regardless of whether they are excuses or reasons, the fact remains that Arnold has escaped.

Vincennes! :mad::facepalm: Although to be fair, if this is what they intended to do, I guess they're technically not incompetent! Just traitorous.

[X][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...leave a Warrant for his Arrest. He'll never be able to return home. [0 Influence, 0g]

One of these two, I think, depending on how much pull Arnold has. Clearly, he has enough to escape ... I suppose he could be a thorn if he comes back to foment revolution or some such. Too bad - I'd like to see if we can use him as our stalking horse: trace him back to see the spymaster and from there, scout out the network. Surely, he must be reporting to someone.

That said, our intrigue probably isn't high enough to do this. Maybe Capo could since their spymaster has been helping to trace Arnold's route. Are they willing to do this?

[ ][SANCTION] ...letting the current punishment stand, rather than further cripple an important vassal. [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relation to House Dale]

An important vassal that's either incompetent or treasonous. Either way, I'm reluctant to let them play with sharp knives. :rolleyes:

[X][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]
[ ][SANCTION] Offer to Waive Sanctions in exchange for Mezzo stepping down [2 Influence Cost, -4 Relations with Vincennes, -1 with other Vassals, triggers a Succession in House Vincennes]

I can't imagine Vincennes wouldn't expect something like this after they had a rather high profile failure, but it's not likely to go down any easier either. And honestly, I'm not sure this won't also play into Teuvian sympathies, but there's not much choice here.

It is a message the more skilled courtiers recognise instantly: Capo recognises the need for punishment, but no further. Carentan and Arbalen are strong provinces and will not be dictated to. Of course, they certainly don't tell Lana Antilles this is the case, so apparently she was white with anxiety when she appeared before the Court.

[Capo invest 2 Influence Points to Block Further Action on Lana Antilles ]

But Chivalry is a powerful thing. Personally, you wish that you were there to see Lucas' face when despite his efforts, Lana abased herself before the Tellar Symphony, begging for a way to reclaim the honour lost from your declarations.

:rofl: Does this count as a wasted influence action? Albeit one shot down by friendly fire from Lana herself! The Antilles must give the Capo fits with their notions of chivalry although I suppose the Capo, at least, don't have to worry about straight up treason from them... Nice to see that Tellar is not the only Great House that has to deal with unruly vassals.

[X][LANA] Join a Khironex attack on a makeshift pirate camp. When Alice docked in Billfarthing she warned you that a pirate base has been newly founded on a small island in the seas east of Tellar. Alice is open to joining your fleets with her Clan fleet to wipe it out before it becomes a problem. [+1 Relations with Khironex, joint Sartier-Khironex attack on Tranquility forward base next turn]
[ ][LANA] Personally join the hunt for Arnold Vincennes, to drag him out of his Renmi hiding hold. Her Exchequer will take over her duties with the Marshall's help, and they should be able to hold the fort for now. It puts a very potent force on Arnold's tail. [Lana departs Dale and does not return until Arnold is dealt with]
[ ][LANA] When next Tellar goes into battle, Lana is honour-bound to bring her Spellknights and leads the charge. [Requires a certain amount of lead-time to effect]

I agree that the 3rd seems like we're taking advantage of a Sartier issue for Tellar's benefit, and I'm not sure we should deprive Dale of their Executive for a hunt in foreign lands where Arnold would have the advantage. Although, Lana really got played by Arnold in killing Kayli, which I'm sure she's probably realized by now. Arnold, as a Teuvian sympathizer, probably wasn't very broken up by Kayli getting killed.

Speaking of our fleets, this would be... Tellar's personal fleet? Since the fleet at large is pretty much not listening to Tellar. If so, that's nice of Alice since her ships will take the bulk of the transport and sea fights, I'd imagine.

Edit: Also, I just remembered the start of the quest featured a high profile attack on Tranquility that went wrong. Hopefully, we don't end up committing the same mistake!

Executive Secretaries
[ ][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]
[ ][SEC] Violet Tsu, from one of your own Minor Houses, who currently resides in Harper. She is a natural general, but an able diplomat who could help and learn much at Andres' side. [Improved Minor House relations, helps reconnect to a particular relative]
[ ][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys. A hotheaded young man, in need of some guidance. A relative of the ruling pair of Antilles, they would look favourably upon this placement. [Increase ties to Antilles, slows down build up of Tarrant-Antilles hostilities]
[X][SEC] Caitlyn Timbre, the sister of Laurent Timbre, who came to Evelyn's attention when she arrived in Etela on an errand for her brother. A few discreet inquiries tells you that Timbre would be glad for you to help the girl realise her potential. [Increased ties with Timbre, will help their young court gain influence and make Carlisle happy]

Capo would be interesting, but I'm not sure Theo has the best handle on Brittany given possible intrigue mismatch...

As for Violet, who is the "particular relative" that this would help reconnect to? (And why are we not in connection in the first place?)

Choosing Antilles now seems a bit ... impolitic esp. given that we're also enforcing sanctions on the Vincennes. What is the Tarrant-Antilles hostilities? (Do the Antilles just fight with everyone around them?)

I'm inclined to pick Timbre to boost relations with Carlisle, but I can be swayed to Violet.

[X][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon Tellar, 14 (2nd in Line), and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[X][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar, 12 (3rd in Line), and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]

Edit2 - 2nd influence spent.

[X] The Root of the Tree - Arnold sat for years in the innermost counsels of the Vincennes. Now that he has fled his Teuvian sympathies are lain bare. How deep did the rot go? Who was he connected to, who did he report to? Perhaps between you and the spymasters of the Capo you can find an answer. [25% base chance, 4,000g, 1 Influence Cost, Gain details on Arnold Vincennes]
 
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Well, here's my voting plan thinger, then.

[X][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]
[X][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]
[X][LANA] Personally join the hunt for Arnold Vincennes, to drag him out of his Renmi hiding hold. Her Exchequer will take over her duties with the Marshall's help, and they should be able to hold the fort for now. It puts a very potent force on Arnold's tail. [Lana departs Dale and does not return until Arnold is dealt with]
[X][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys. A hotheaded young man, in need of some guidance. A relative of the ruling pair of Antilles, they would look favourably upon this placement. [Increase ties to Antilles, slows down build up of Tarrant-Antilles hostilities]
[X][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon Tellar, 14 (2nd in Line), and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[X][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar, 12 (3rd in Line), and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]

Reasonings. I really don't want to leave Arnold alive a second longer than possible. Even if we keep him out of our lands, he can still feed Teuv the information a highly placed nobleman has on his own nation. Doesn't sound good to me. I figure if we send out assassin and have Lana personally join the hunt, that's probably a joint operation, although I'd like that confirmed if possible @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato thank ye kindly in advance.

As Sanctions go, I don't want to let it simply stand, in part because I figure it probably sets a bad image if the ostensible 'rulers for the benefit of all' are too strongly favorable to their own vassals, in part because pissing off Dale may cause us trouble with Capo, and in part cause it sets a bad precedent to our vassals, in my opinion. The waiving the sanctions option is even worse, pissing off all our vassals when we don't even have strong evidence that the current rulers are especially Teuv influenced/rebellious/whatever out of the members of house Vincennes, and thus it may well not really help. It also strikes me as possibly weakening them more than sanctions, by costing them experienced, competent leadership.

I'm actually kinda torn on the Secretary. I favor Theo Antilles, over all, in part because I figure it will both help our relationship with both at least part of those off in Carentan (and I really don't want the secrets and spies guys to be anything less than ecstatic towards us, given if they want us dead we might not even know it) and help foster stability between Etela and Carentan as a whole. We are trying to rule Sartier as a whole, bit difficult if two-thirds of it are on fire from civil war. I am fairly tempted by..

[ ][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]

Both for the implicit bodyguard feature and the "I don't want the secrets and spies people to not love us" thing, but hard choices still have to be made., and overall I think Theo Antilles is the better one, at the moment.

Meanwhile, I see no particular reason not to do both fostering.
 
Also, what happened to the fines levied on Vincennes and Dale, into whose treasury did that go?
It goes into your own coffers, but it starts Turn 3 and goes on to Turn 6.
Oneiros, Macchiato, any chance of a slightly more moderate option than that? Allow replenishment of current forces (presumably this means current regiments back to full strength?), force recruitment to be okay'd by Tellar before being undertaken?
The slight issue there is that Vincennes and their Minor Houses are already running at pretty close to full military capacity. It's part of why they're fairly poor despite having a decent port and trade situation. I'll see if @Macchiato and me can nut out something else, possibly forcing Vincennes to accept a Tellar at Court with veto-power over raising banners.
If memory serves, Timbre is the one where like all of their vets just retired and so they have a real experience problem.
Yes, that is Timbre, the old guard retired and left a Court full of teens-to-early 20s in charge. Financially they're still in great shape but their influence and quality of agents is sad-sack at the moment.
That said, the problem is that she won't necessarily be that competent on her own immediately, and by the time she maybe grows into her potential she'll take that home with her.
To be honest, that's a good deal of the point of the Secretary position, to learn and then go home to provide a better quality of noble to the various Courts, while providing you with assistance during their time here and a network of connections.
Speaking of our fleets, this would be... Tellar's personal fleet? Since the fleet at large is pretty much not listening to Tellar. If so, that's nice of Alice since her ships will take the bulk of the transport and sea fights, I'd imagine.
Well, it's a forward staging area that sits near the Khironex-Gambier trade route, so Alice is certainly interested in clearing it out. If you had gone to talk to the Royal Navy at some point you'd have an easier time whistling up a Task Force or two, but it will still be possible. But yes, mostly Tellar's fleet (bolstered by eight new Oboes that will be built by then), plus Alice's.
Edit: Also, I just remembered the start of the quest featured a high profile attack on Tranquility that went wrong. Hopefully, we don't end up committing the same mistake!
Well, what you would be attempting is a good order of magnitude or two in difficulty below an attack on Tranquility's Solemn Bay!
What is the Tarrant-Antilles hostilities? (Do the Antilles just fight with everyone around them?)
Tarrant and Antilles form the border between Sonissimmo lands and Capo lands. They have long carried on squabbling, like a very mild version of Dale-Vincennes. However relations have plummeted since the take-over, which is something that, behind the scenes, the nobles of the Great Houses are attempting to mend. Part of what made things worse this season is that Tarrant has started fortifying the Minor Houses on the border because they're worried about what happens if Antilles has a full-blown Teuvian upheaval. They want ready-made containment.

At the moment, they don't raise to the level of being your concern but if Sonissimmo and Capo fuck up it could get Fun.
 
I think furthering Capo ties is VERY good at this point, their vassal willingly and thoroughly submitted to the punishment for honor. We want to encouage that.

We have to give carrots when people do the right thing. That their candidate is one of the most talented is a plus
My fears are that hitting Vincennes' military only actually helps the Teuvians out even more, as a final fuck you from their agent where we do the predictable thing in response and cut off our noses to spite our faces.
Main issue is we can't be seen to let them get away with flouting orders via negligence either. It only encourages others.
 
Okay, let me clear up a few on my end as well. Apologies in advance if something I say is confusing/contradicts something Oneiros says. We're both at work so lines of communication are often delayed/muddied.

You know, every time I read a line like this, there's this ache... right about... here, in my teeth. We really need to work on that at some point.
You're going to teach Evelyn that commoners are not common and are not meant to be downtrodden? >.> You do know she's possibly the milder version of this and that the Symphony's probably worse, right? xD

Hmm, @Macchiato what happens if we don't use all our influence in the mid-turn? Does it disappear into thin air or does it carry over?
Disappears into thin air.

I like it, would match a lot of what I ask for during turn posts anyway, though I'll caveat in saying that hopefully doesn't slow down the actual turn process that much.
It doesn't. It's pretty much something for me to do while Oneiros rolls dice and stuff. Plus, it'll hopefully inform you guys further as we go along and build the world more :)

@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato Can we select multiple options in some areas if we were inclined to? For example, can we put assassins out, and put a bounty out at the same time?
Depends on the overlap of the options, I'd say. In the case of assassins and bounty at the same time, I'm inclined to allow it.

Hrm. You'd think that someone who spent time as a dock rat would have been exposed to people from different walks of life anyway. Well, I guess that's why Tellar is the magic house, and Sonissimo the stewards.
Well, a dock rat as much as a monied Sartieran noble can be a dock rat. Unreliable narrator is a thing. What Evelyn believes is a dock rat may not... be anything like :rofl:

That said, our intrigue probably isn't high enough to do this. Maybe Capo could since their spymaster has been helping to trace Arnold's route. Are they willing to do this?
You'll have to talk to them about it, but it being a joint venture is certainly something that could be looked at further down the track.

I figure if we send out assassin and have Lana personally join the hunt, that's probably a joint operation, although I'd like that confirmed if possible @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato thank ye kindly in advance.
Yes, if that option were selected, Lana would be going out with the team already in place.
 
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