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"How many pointy bits went into him? Hm.... that is a lot. What percent of their organs does a human need, again?"

Slight delay on mid-turn, busily rolling to find out if Charlie Tellar is dead or not.![]()
...I know who I'm blaming! ;PSlight delay on mid-turn, busily rolling to find out if Charlie Tellar is dead or not.![]()
It's actually really hard to keep my opinions to myself sometimes >.>That... went much better than I feared it would.
We'll be accepting the fostering agreements, obviously. As for Arnold Vincennes, I'm inclined to just want him dead, though there is something to be said for trying him before a full court of nobles.
We need to sanction the Vincennes in some way, but I'm uncertain as to how to go about it. Honestly, I'm half inclined to just levy another fine on them, they fucked up yes but they seem to be legitimately unhappy about that particular screw up.
@Macchiato do we have any early indications from Hamid as to what the state of the Teuv infestation in Vincennes is?
Hmm, okay, that's fair enough.Thinking about it, I'd want to rephrase the sanction option to:
[ ][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]
Its more neutral that way, whilst previously it read like an accusation of complicity in Arnold Vincennes' escape.
There was simply no telling what those who didn't understand their place in life might presume.
[Capo invest 2 Influence Points to Block Further Action on Lana Antilles ]
[ ][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys.
Ah, there are many ways to skin a cat, and many ways for things to happen away from the eyes of one's liege...
That's the spiritThis is what Chivalry is good for, kicking ass and chewing bubblegum. And we? Haven't invented bubblegum.
Yeah, it's going on constantly in the background but it doesn't always impact you directly like this.Huh. Kind of interesting to see what Influence looks like from the other side.
Some awkward phrasing here.
for Shannon?
I like it, would match a lot of what I ask for during turn posts anyway, though I'll caveat in saying that hopefully doesn't slow down the actual turn process that much.
I thought Chivalry was for not being dicks to each other. ;PThis is what Chivalry is good for, kicking ass and chewing bubblegum. And we? Haven't invented bubblegum.
As indicated above, my initial inclination would be either or possibly both of the harsher options. We have cash to spare at the moment even if I declared that I intended to spend a whole bunch of it next turn.[ ][ARNOLD] ...putting together a force of assassins who will hunt the rat down. Hamid has sent out our deadly agents to put down this villain. [1 Influence Cost, 4,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...issuing a substantial Bounty for him, dead or alive, to persuade others to pick up the trail. [0 Influence, sets aside 6,000g]
[ ][ARNOLD] ...leave a Warrant for his Arrest. He'll never be able to return home. [0 Influence, 0g]
Change for the sake of change is pointless and dumb, since we don't know who precisely in their court is compromised. The middle option looks okay, though honestly I'd probably want to temper it further.[ ][SANCTION] ...letting the current punishment stand, rather than further cripple an important vassal. [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relation to House Dale]
[ ][SANCTION] Sanction House Vincennes for failing to stop him from from fleeing [0 Influence Cost, -1 Relations with Vincennes, Place ban on further recruitment or replenishment of forces]
[ ][SANCTION] Offer to Waive Sanctions in exchange for Mezzo stepping down [2 Influence Cost, -4 Relations with Vincennes, -1 with other Vassals, triggers a Succession in House Vincennes]
The middle option is stupid because it effectively rewards her. "Hey, that guy whose family you hate and just raided you is a fugitive, I'm forcing you to go hunt for him to redeem yourself *winkwink*"[ ][LANA] Join a Khironex attack on a makeshift pirate camp. When Alice docked in Billfarthing she warned you that a pirate base has been newly founded on a small island in the seas east of Tellar. Alice is open to joining your fleets with her Clan fleet to wipe it out before it becomes a problem. [+1 Relations with Khironex, joint Sartier-Khironex attack on Tranquility forward base next turn]
[ ][LANA] Personally join the hunt for Arnold Vincennes, to drag him out of his Renmi hiding hold. Her Exchequer will take over her duties with the Marshall's help, and they should be able to hold the fort for now. It puts a very potent force on Arnold's tail. [Lana departs Dale and does not return until Arnold is dealt with]
[ ][LANA] When next Tellar goes into battle, Lana is honour-bound to bring her Spellknights and leads the charge. [Requires a certain amount of lead-time to effect]
Hmmmm. Theo's Intrigue isn't the best so I don't know if I'm entirely comfortable trusting either Brittany or Theo (ha) to definitely not have Teuvian leanings. Brittany's tempting in spite of it, though. I don't yet care about Tarrant-Antilles hostilities which is perhaps the wrong attitude to take but I'm not sure I want to burn the Secretary posting just for that.Executive Secretaries
[ ][SEC] Brittany Capo, a third cousin of the current Capo heir, Brittany has had a broad education but is still looking to figure out exactly where she belongs. Theo thinks she has a lot of potential. [Increased ties with Capo, puts a very solid fighter near Andres at nearly all times]
[ ][SEC] Violet Tsu, from one of your own Minor Houses, who currently resides in Harper. She is a natural general, but an able diplomat who could help and learn much at Andres' side. [Improved Minor House relations, helps reconnect to a particular relative]
[ ][SEC] Theo Antilles, a lad identified by Theo from the courts of the north in his far-ranging surveys. A hotheaded young man, in need of some guidance. A relative of the ruling pair of Antilles, they would look favourably upon this placement. [Increase ties to Antilles, slows down build up of Tarrant-Antilles hostilities]
[ ][SEC] Caitlyn Timbre, the sister of Laurent Timbre, who came to Evelyn's attention when she arrived in Etela on an errand for her brother. A few discreet inquiries tells you that Timbre would be glad for you to help the girl realise her potential. [Increased ties with Timbre, will help their young court gain influence and make Carlisle happy]
I don't see an issue with either fostering agreement here. Giving the plum choices to these two disallows fostering them to Capo areas if it was an issue but so be it, Sonissimmo's our internal diplomatic issue right now.Tarrant has taken you up on your offer of exchanging fosters. After a little wrangling and finessing, John and Alice Tarrant reached a proposal that they have tentatively agreed to with Juan Lumen, who is presenting it to you in turn. Jessica Ritter is a very promising young noble with strong ties to the Tarrant family through Alice. She would make a good partner for .
[ ][TARRANT] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Tarrant, 1,000g, exchange of nobles goes ahead, Shannon Tellar, 14 (2nd in Line), and Jessica Ritter will spend summers in Bartier, winters in Harper]
[ ][TARRANT] Decline Fostering agreement
Sonissimmo was a trickier task, however with Rita Hulland there personally, a potential offer was soon worked out. Before Mezzo John Tarrant became a Tarrant, he was a member of Sonissimmo's own Minor House Quinn, and a second cousin to Symphony Hana Sonissimmo. His younger brother Peter would be a companion for the youngest Tellar child, Gregory.
[ ][SONN] Accept Fostering agreement [+2 Relationship with Sonissimmo, 1,000g, Gregory Tellar, 12 (3rd in Line), and Peter Quinn spend summers in Etela, winters in Harper]
[ ][SONN] Decline Fostering agreement
It was only by pure luck that Alice had taken a struck up a friendship with you,
At least it would be overwhelming if you were standing in the middle of it, you suppose. Even if your father hadn't insisted on the necessary precautions, you'd be reluctant to be near your subjects. There was simply no telling what those who didn't understand their place in life might presume. Hana, of course, would be delighted at all of the people from different walks of life, but then, her naivete in this particular area has always been a point of difference between you.
Despite the news being more than a week old at this stage, the news that Arnold Vincennes has mysteriously escaped House Vincennes' custody is still as unbelievable as it is infuriating. You don't know whether or not to believe Vincennes' continuing protests that they knew nothing about his affairs beyond those specific to Vincennes and their flat denial of any involvement with Teuvians, secret or otherwise. Regardless of whether they are excuses or reasons, the fact remains that Arnold has escaped.
It is a message the more skilled courtiers recognise instantly: Capo recognises the need for punishment, but no further. Carentan and Arbalen are strong provinces and will not be dictated to. Of course, they certainly don't tell Lana Antilles this is the case, so apparently she was white with anxiety when she appeared before the Court.
[Capo invest 2 Influence Points to Block Further Action on Lana Antilles ]
But Chivalry is a powerful thing. Personally, you wish that you were there to see Lucas' face when despite his efforts, Lana abased herself before the Tellar Symphony, begging for a way to reclaim the honour lost from your declarations.
Fixed this.Spectrum pointed this out already, but you seem to have missed a word.
Need more time to think about what options I want to take, personally.
It goes into your own coffers, but it starts Turn 3 and goes on to Turn 6.Also, what happened to the fines levied on Vincennes and Dale, into whose treasury did that go?
The slight issue there is that Vincennes and their Minor Houses are already running at pretty close to full military capacity. It's part of why they're fairly poor despite having a decent port and trade situation. I'll see if @Macchiato and me can nut out something else, possibly forcing Vincennes to accept a Tellar at Court with veto-power over raising banners.Oneiros, Macchiato, any chance of a slightly more moderate option than that? Allow replenishment of current forces (presumably this means current regiments back to full strength?), force recruitment to be okay'd by Tellar before being undertaken?
Yes, that is Timbre, the old guard retired and left a Court full of teens-to-early 20s in charge. Financially they're still in great shape but their influence and quality of agents is sad-sack at the moment.If memory serves, Timbre is the one where like all of their vets just retired and so they have a real experience problem.
To be honest, that's a good deal of the point of the Secretary position, to learn and then go home to provide a better quality of noble to the various Courts, while providing you with assistance during their time here and a network of connections.That said, the problem is that she won't necessarily be that competent on her own immediately, and by the time she maybe grows into her potential she'll take that home with her.
Well, it's a forward staging area that sits near the Khironex-Gambier trade route, so Alice is certainly interested in clearing it out. If you had gone to talk to the Royal Navy at some point you'd have an easier time whistling up a Task Force or two, but it will still be possible. But yes, mostly Tellar's fleet (bolstered by eight new Oboes that will be built by then), plus Alice's.Speaking of our fleets, this would be... Tellar's personal fleet? Since the fleet at large is pretty much not listening to Tellar. If so, that's nice of Alice since her ships will take the bulk of the transport and sea fights, I'd imagine.
Well, what you would be attempting is a good order of magnitude or two in difficulty below an attack on Tranquility's Solemn Bay!Edit: Also, I just remembered the start of the quest featured a high profile attack on Tranquility that went wrong. Hopefully, we don't end up committing the same mistake!
Tarrant and Antilles form the border between Sonissimmo lands and Capo lands. They have long carried on squabbling, like a very mild version of Dale-Vincennes. However relations have plummeted since the take-over, which is something that, behind the scenes, the nobles of the Great Houses are attempting to mend. Part of what made things worse this season is that Tarrant has started fortifying the Minor Houses on the border because they're worried about what happens if Antilles has a full-blown Teuvian upheaval. They want ready-made containment.What is the Tarrant-Antilles hostilities? (Do the Antilles just fight with everyone around them?)
Main issue is we can't be seen to let them get away with flouting orders via negligence either. It only encourages others.My fears are that hitting Vincennes' military only actually helps the Teuvians out even more, as a final fuck you from their agent where we do the predictable thing in response and cut off our noses to spite our faces.
You're going to teach Evelyn that commoners are not common and are not meant to be downtrodden? >.> You do know she's possibly the milder version of this and that the Symphony's probably worse, right? xDYou know, every time I read a line like this, there's this ache... right about... here, in my teeth. We really need to work on that at some point.
Disappears into thin air.Hmm, @Macchiato what happens if we don't use all our influence in the mid-turn? Does it disappear into thin air or does it carry over?
It doesn't. It's pretty much something for me to do while Oneiros rolls dice and stuff. Plus, it'll hopefully inform you guys further as we go along and build the world moreI like it, would match a lot of what I ask for during turn posts anyway, though I'll caveat in saying that hopefully doesn't slow down the actual turn process that much.
Depends on the overlap of the options, I'd say. In the case of assassins and bounty at the same time, I'm inclined to allow it.@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato Can we select multiple options in some areas if we were inclined to? For example, can we put assassins out, and put a bounty out at the same time?
Well, a dock rat as much as a monied Sartieran noble can be a dock rat. Unreliable narrator is a thing. What Evelyn believes is a dock rat may not... be anything likeHrm. You'd think that someone who spent time as a dock rat would have been exposed to people from different walks of life anyway. Well, I guess that's why Tellar is the magic house, and Sonissimo the stewards.
You'll have to talk to them about it, but it being a joint venture is certainly something that could be looked at further down the track.That said, our intrigue probably isn't high enough to do this. Maybe Capo could since their spymaster has been helping to trace Arnold's route. Are they willing to do this?
Yes, if that option were selected, Lana would be going out with the team already in place.I figure if we send out assassin and have Lana personally join the hunt, that's probably a joint operation, although I'd like that confirmed if possible @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato thank ye kindly in advance.
Then the assassins cash in the bounty?Depends on the overlap of the options, I'd say. In the case of assassins and bounty at the same time, I'm inclined to allow it.
Well technically they would have fulfilled the terms of the bounty so... >.>