Renegade Sorceress Quest [40K]
- Thread starter Alectai
- Start date
- Location
- Terror Australis
[X] Plan Meet the new Boss
-[X] Settle Revanche
-[X] Pacify Revanche: Lilith
-[X] Drill the Militia (65/200): Ariadne
-[X] Establish Contact: Altharia - Evander
-[X] Doctrinal Analysis (0/250): Medea
-[X] Analyze the Dainsleif (429/500): Cobalt
We can't afford to both settle Revanche and recruit Astartes this turn, since we will have 4 TG regiments tied up on Revanche, meaning we can't scavenge for resources. We have 157 resources +25 this turn meaning our stockpile will be down to a worrying 22, before specialist gear, if we recruit. Thus we can either smack down the Eldar or keep working at our to do list.
I have Lilith working on Revanche as I fell the stat gains would be best used to give us a second Chapter Master tier Hero over moderately buffing Ariadne or Evander. Next turn when our new Heros become available we can start using them in groups to grind up their stats.
-[X] Settle Revanche
-[X] Pacify Revanche: Lilith
-[X] Drill the Militia (65/200): Ariadne
-[X] Establish Contact: Altharia - Evander
-[X] Doctrinal Analysis (0/250): Medea
-[X] Analyze the Dainsleif (429/500): Cobalt
We can't afford to both settle Revanche and recruit Astartes this turn, since we will have 4 TG regiments tied up on Revanche, meaning we can't scavenge for resources. We have 157 resources +25 this turn meaning our stockpile will be down to a worrying 22, before specialist gear, if we recruit. Thus we can either smack down the Eldar or keep working at our to do list.
I have Lilith working on Revanche as I fell the stat gains would be best used to give us a second Chapter Master tier Hero over moderately buffing Ariadne or Evander. Next turn when our new Heros become available we can start using them in groups to grind up their stats.
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- Location
- Hollister
[X] Plan Meet the new Boss
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- Location
- Terror Australis
@Alectai
Do we have an option to recruit another regiment of Tower Guard? or is that something that will be available later?
On the matter of Resources remember everyone we can't do salvage opperations until Revanche is pacified, unless we can recruit more tower guard. I am assuming we probably need to train the Militia up before we can raise more Tower guard, so we probably won't be getting more for a while.
Do we have an option to recruit another regiment of Tower Guard? or is that something that will be available later?
On the matter of Resources remember everyone we can't do salvage opperations until Revanche is pacified, unless we can recruit more tower guard. I am assuming we probably need to train the Militia up before we can raise more Tower guard, so we probably won't be getting more for a while.
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- Location
- United States
[X] Plan Meet the new Boss
- Location
- USA
Try copy pasting it into notepad, editing it there, then copy pasting back into front page
Notepad strips out all metadata
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
[X] Plan Oh God We're all Doomed. Doomed I say.
-[X] Settle Revanche (100/100)
-[X] Pacify Revanche: Evander
-[X] Drill the Militia (65/200): Ariadne
-[X] Who is the Longshot? (37/150): Lilith
-[X] Doctrinal Analysis (0/250): Medea
-[X] Analyze the Dainsleif (429/500): Cobalt
Trying our best to get the Dainsleif Analysis done, p obvious. Starting Doctrinal Analysis, also obvious. Dumping 100 resources immediately into Revanche and sending someone to pacify it, also obvious. Feel we can all fairly well agree on that. Ariadne beats out Evander for Drill by merit of having higher fellowship. But seriously we need to find out what the deal is with the Longshot before secret Inquisitor Silveron shows up with twenty capital vessels and drops Purgatus on us. More paranoia, I demand more paranoia!
What's left of Revanche is p much feral, so no problem sending simple close combat specialist to handle it, it may also boost his fellowship, rounding him out a bit and giving us a tad more flexibility.
-[X] Settle Revanche (100/100)
-[X] Pacify Revanche: Evander
-[X] Drill the Militia (65/200): Ariadne
-[X] Who is the Longshot? (37/150): Lilith
-[X] Doctrinal Analysis (0/250): Medea
-[X] Analyze the Dainsleif (429/500): Cobalt
Trying our best to get the Dainsleif Analysis done, p obvious. Starting Doctrinal Analysis, also obvious. Dumping 100 resources immediately into Revanche and sending someone to pacify it, also obvious. Feel we can all fairly well agree on that. Ariadne beats out Evander for Drill by merit of having higher fellowship. But seriously we need to find out what the deal is with the Longshot before secret Inquisitor Silveron shows up with twenty capital vessels and drops Purgatus on us. More paranoia, I demand more paranoia!
What's left of Revanche is p much feral, so no problem sending simple close combat specialist to handle it, it may also boost his fellowship, rounding him out a bit and giving us a tad more flexibility.
- Location
- USA
Will this expire if we don't take it now? It kinda sound like something that will expire if we don't take it now
holy crap this is going to be expensive to build. We need more money yesterday. We need more marines too. we should really do tripping the rift more often
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Indeed, it sounds like the time to strike is now. Guys, it may not seem that Saim-Hann is gunning for us personally, but allowing an unprovoked raid to go unchallenged is just asking to be labelled a target of opportunity. We hit them now in a retaliatory strike, without doing enough damage to escalate hostility, and we establish ourselves as someone not to be trifled with, as no Craftworld Eldar can survive unnecessary losses. Plus, I understand that Saim-Hann is a bit more outgoing for Eldar. Showing we have some stones (metaphorically speaking) might just net us some new friends.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
It will expire when they're finished with whatever they're doing there.
- Location
- USA
Right, take note people. We should probably do this soonish or else all the effort we spent on it would go to waste
- Location
- Terror Australis
Sounds like we should hit it next turn with as many Heroes as we reasonably can then.
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Sunk cost fallacy. Though we do want to smack the Eldar as they are very much not our friends.
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Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
Do we want to smack the Eldar? They're not our friends, but that's nothing new in Warhammer, and they don't seem to have any particular bone to pick with us. Why not just let them do whatever they want to do and get out of our hair? They're Eldar, they generally don't go in for plans to unleash horrible doom on the local area.
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Xexilf
Oblivion Sempiternum Daemonis
It is however possible that theres something valuable there.
- Location
- USA
WRONG, a sunk cost fallacy is specifically the fallacious emotional need to continue dumping resources into a lost cause even though it is clear you will gain nothing from it and are just losing more and more.
Sunk-Cost Fallacy
Arguing for actually reaping the return on your investment when it actualized is completely different. The latter is equivalent to a farmer who has spent a lot of effort preparing the fields and sowing (a sunk cost), now we have a field full of wheat ready to harvest and if we don't harvest it now it will spoil. This is not a sunk cost fallacy, it is just proper business.
A sunk cost fallacy would be if the farmer had trees producing a product whose market has collapsed and are not going to be profitable, and he refused to replace them with a profitable crop because "he already spent so much effort planting these trees"
Also, this is not about sunk costs at all but about "consistent characterization", we have been pursuing an action in character for many years, and now that we finally have the payoff within our grasp to go "meh, I never really wanted to do it in the first place" is classic lolrandumb behavior
1. they attacked us first.
2. we have been actively spending resources on this for a while so apparently we clearly want to do it. otherwise why have we been spending all this effort on attacking them to punish them for their aggression against us?
3. we are explicitly going to perform a slap on the wrist as a warning without intent to escalate, with a "we could have do so much worse to you"
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[X] Plan Colony Go
FullNothingness
Mostly DHMO.
Revenge is a low margin business people. Fighting the Eldar is very unlikely to result in anything useful. We don't have to worry about a galaxy wide reputation and aren't likely to randomly run into them in the future.
We just had a random encounter in the rift and we shot at each other a bit. Their boarders bit the dust. End of story.
We invested the time to research the encounter so we could verify that it wasn't part of a greater plan aimed at us. We found out it probably wasn't, good news. Now lets not start poking people for no good reason, we have enough enemies as is.
We just had a random encounter in the rift and we shot at each other a bit. Their boarders bit the dust. End of story.
We invested the time to research the encounter so we could verify that it wasn't part of a greater plan aimed at us. We found out it probably wasn't, good news. Now lets not start poking people for no good reason, we have enough enemies as is.
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
1: Business as usual in Warhammer.
2: Or, alternatively, we've been spending resources on finding out what the Eldar want to do and, having found it's nothing to be immediately concerned about, we're content to leave them to it.
3: We don't intend to escalate. They might not see it that way and, frankly, if they choose to do so? They can escalate a lot farther and faster than we can.
To me, this looks like a bear has taken a swipe at us just on general principles and now we have the option to poke it with a stick so we can puff ourselves up for not using a spear, forgetting the fact that it's a bear.
- Location
- USA
does this require transport capacity? since it happens on our home world
[X] Plan Meet the new Boss
- Location
- USA
Do you really honestly think they will just leave us be if we ignore them from now on? because that is literally not what we believe in character as per explicitly the text of the mission in question.
And its not that we don't want to escalate, its that our action is explicitly and specifically going to be a non escalating slap on the wrist to communicate to them a warning of "don't mess with me, but lets not escalate". Backed up by everything we know in character as well as our own ability to see the future. In fact we even found them in the first place thanks to our ability to see the future.
You are flat out saying that the QM is lying to us in the description of the mission and that this is a trap option
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
Well... Yes? They're Eldar, their whole thing is avoiding conflict whenever possible, except when the inscrutable designs of their Farseers tell them they have to fight now in order to avoid a bigger fight later.