Reaching for the Stars - A Stargate Quest

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I'm somewhere in the middle here on vehicles, neither super gung ho about them nor totally down on them, but part of why I want to finish the Geological Survey (besides that being something many other people clearly want) was to see what options pop up when we finish it and how they look. That'll be a better baseline for estimating what we get from it imo.
 
Potato Anarchy said:
I'm somewhere in the middle here on vehicles, neither super gung ho about them nor totally down on them, but part of why I want to finish the Geological Survey (besides that being something many other people clearly want) was to see what options pop up when we finish it and how they look. That'll be a better baseline for estimating what we get from it imo.
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Pretty much this. The reason I want that Geological Survey is that we, the man in charge, are not engineers. So we simply can't know what's possible until the actual engineer does their survey. I'm hoping knowing the structural composition of the mountain will give a small bonus to all base improvement actions.

This just seems like one of those actions that's thinly veiling spectacular future bonuses.
 
Remember folks, we're the Space Force, not the Army.

When we research the tech, we'll be pumping those F-302/X-302s out until the cows come home. Of course, we'll give them a much better name, stupid Air Force. Especially so if we can get them through the gate.
 
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[x] Take the deal. The Abydonians will expect one planet to evacuate to in return for Denial Jackson joining your command.
 
Cookiesndip said:
Is there a reason Infantry Weapons are still under procurement?
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Yes. The reason is that the QM forgot to remove it.
demonthese2211 said:
Fair enough. Though to be honest the biggest priority I would have for our infantry compliment runs up to the problem of how closely Azel wants to hew towards keeping the format of the show. Which is a roundabout way of saying I think we should take the XCOM route and increase our squad sizes ASAP. Ideally I think we would want to bump squad size up to six for more flexibility (allowing operation as a 6 person, 2 3 person, or 3 2 person units) and survivability. 8 would also be a decent number (essentially operating SG teams in pairs) but given the level of quality we want out of our soldiers that might drop the number of available teams too low and in the longer term it would make operating out of Bradleys awkward, though the Stryker would still be available in that case.
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There's no arbitrary headcount limit. If you keep doing recruitment, you can keep assigning the soldiers to the same teams. Though if headcount bloats too much, I'm going to have to streamline combat resolution to use fire teams as the base size.
 
Azel said:
Yes. The reason is that the QM forgot to remove it.

There's no arbitrary headcount limit. If you keep doing recruitment, you can keep assigning the soldiers to the same teams. Though if headcount bloats too much, I'm going to have to streamline combat resolution to use fire teams as the base size.
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Just send the entire US military through the gate, can't beat us all :p
 
Cookiesndip said:
Remember folks, we're the Space Force, not the Army.
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In the here and now, we get to space on foot, which we're the goddamn United States military, if we walk the whole way we're doing it wrong. Even the ability to bring forward a Mark 19 or an M2 is a serious firepower upgrade to an SG team, and some mortars would be nice; nothing fancy, just enough to lift a crew-served weapon and move it around without humping it. But when the Marine Corps drops its tankers in 2020 we'll be able to build our own tank regiment for a song.

[X] Plan: Infrastructure
 
Zimmerwald1915 said:
Then please don't vote for the write-in. Because I proposed it sincerely, thanks.
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I mean lying in spirit even if the character is sincere is about the same. Unless were running for Congress or the Presidential Seat, that choice isn't really up to us in anything but the short term.
Tho in that short term i want to promote Manifest Destinying the planets (edit: well less assholish towards any potential natives, i meant more the empty or depopulated planets)
 
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Manifest Destiny is pretty tied to the whole "take the land and genocide / drive off anyone who objects". Which, incidentally, is what Daniel expects you to do.

It bears remembering that unlike Canon Daniel, Quest Daniel spent the 00s and 10s doing archaeology in the Middle East and has many friends and colleagues that live there. Or lived in some cases. His opinion of the US military and foreign policy is obviously colored quite a lot by having a very close connection to the people on the receiving end of the Bush II years and the War on Terror.
 
Azel said:
Manifest Destiny is pretty tied to the whole "take the land and genocide / drive off anyone who objects". Which, incidentally, is what Daniel expects you to do.

It bears remembering that unlike Canon Daniel, Quest Daniel spent the 00s and 10s doing archaeology in the Middle East and has many friends and colleagues that live there. Or lived in some cases. His opinion of the US military and foreign policy is obviously colored quite a lot by having a very close connection to the people on the receiving end of the Bush II years and the War on Terror.
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Well that is the default for conquesting land, but there isn't really any reason why we would do the asshole way when there are plenty of planets that won't cause an humanitarian crisis or be massively unethical to control

Edit: Our guy should be smart enough to realize that the Stargate program will be public eventually, so being a massive asshole to natives is not benefitable in even a pragmatic way.
 
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Azel said:
It bears remembering that unlike Canon Daniel, Quest Daniel spent the 00s and 10s doing archaeology in the Middle East and has many friends and colleagues that live there. Or lived in some cases. His opinion of the US military and foreign policy is obviously colored quite a lot by having a very close connection to the people on the receiving end of the Bush II years and the War on Terror.
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Being an Egyptologist, I suppose it's too much to hope for him having made his way to upper Mesopotamia at any point. But Egypt itself wasn't exactly tranquil in the early 2010s.
 
Zimmerwald1915 said:
Being an Egyptologist, I suppose it's too much to hope for him having made his way to upper Mesopotamia at any point. But Egypt itself wasn't exactly tranquil in the early 2010s.
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He did. While Egyptology has been a focus of his, he got around quite a bit.
Potato Anarchy said:
All the words for what?
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I think he means all the words for claiming land and extracting resources from it. There's not been a lot of genuine Terra Nullius on the Earth.
 
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Azel said:
I think he means all the words for claiming land and extracting resources from it. There's not been a lot of genuine Terra Nullius on the Earth.
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Yes, exactly
I was using Manifest Destiny because its Murica's version, its also why i mentioned, tho i edited it in so idk who saw it, that i wanted a version that was more empty worlds or at least unpopulated and not native filled. :p
 
Honestly trying to go around conquering the galaxy is a bad idea. Because if we set up some place we end up having to defend it which means lots of manpower and resources. And for what? One extra planet would already mean a vastly increased amount of real estate. Far more than we'd need in any kind of reasonable time frame. It would also be bad for our logistics since we'd be stuck moving supplies and people back and forth eating into gate time and interfering with our other operations.

In many ways winning over the Abydonians as allies would be more beneficial. They wouldn't require anywhere near as much support since they would intend to be self sufficient and wouldn't be tied to Earth meaning we'd have less issues explaining where people are and why they never pick up the phone when their aunt calls them.
 
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