And that's admirable. The stuff of heroes, really.Honestly, I don't understand all this "Mami! Mami!" hype.
She's not Super-Sempai. She's a troubled girl, who trying to jutify her existence through people-saving.
If you think of people as simply being burdens that bring trouble, then we should have never befriended all these characters in the first place.I think that dealing with ourharemfriends problems is more important than acquire newtroublefriend.
She's powerful and experienced, yes, but we already have Uncle and Catherine.
And Mami know nothing about QB System.
Cake is a lie.
If you think of people as simply being burdens that bring trouble, then we should have never befriended all these characters in the first place.
Being friends with powerful people is great, and the more powerful friends we have, the better.
There's a reason why I put "isn't just" there, ya know?
And by meeting Mami, we're fulfilling 1, 2, and 3. This is primarily to help Kishi get over her paranoia since no amount of logic can beat paranoia. She needs to see that her paranoia is in fact, wrong before we can make any headway.We befriended them mostly because we saw them in trouble and decided to help.
I see Tamiko not as "befriend them all!" collector, but as "You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed" person.
1. Help your friends.
2. Help people in trouble.
3. Socialize and try to be happy.
And right now Kishi need help.
Explain her that there is good megucas first, befriend Mami later.
We aren't losing any quality by adding quantity. Rather, we're improving both aspects of our support network.I always prefer quality to quantity.
I trust Uncle more than Mami.
Or we just strengthen this paranoia because this unknown meguca turns out to be viciously territorial. Never forget to account for possible AU.And by meeting Mami, we're fulfilling 1, 2, and 3. This is primarily to help Kishi get over her paranoia.
Explain her that there is good megucas first, befriend Mami later.
We aren't losing any quality by adding quantity. Rather, we're improving our support network.
We're in public. If this AU Mami is as vicious as you say she is, she would have attacked by now when our guard's down.Or we just strengthen this paranoia because this unknown meguca turns out to be viciously territorial. Never forget to account for possible AU.
You seem to be under the assumption only Tamiko has agency, and that only Tamiko can solve problems. Our Uncle and Cathy are adults, and Mami's an experienced veteran. Between the three of them, their collective wisdom can do us and our friends wonders when it comes to mundane and magical matters.We are just one person, the more friends we have - the less time we spend bonding with each of them.
And I prefer strengthen this bonds and deal with Mariko-Kishi and Evelyn-megucas troubles before adding new elements into support network.
One seems to be optimistic, while the other seems to be pessimistic.
We're in public. If this AU Mami is as vicious as you say she is, she would have attacked by now when our guard's down.
You seem to be under the assumption only Tamiko has agency, and that only Tamiko can solve problems.
Of course it is. One of them is Madoka and the other is Homura.One seems to be optimistic, while the other seems to be pessimistic.
Help.A little thought.
If somewhere in the future Tamiko gain information that Walpurgisnacht will come to Mitakihara. What do we do?
Invisitext earlier suggests that she did notice us.I'm not sure that she noticed us at all.
Also destroying her favourite cafe because trespassers are here is stupid. She probably planning to snipe us when we left the cafe.
Ah, but this quest was inspired by Sayaka Quest! Limb loss is inevitable! :lol
If somewhere in the future Tamiko gain information that Walpurgisnacht will come to Mitakihara. What do we do?
"...This is just awkward."
And if by poisoned, you mean so delicious it might as well be mind control, I'll agree. Mamiplomacy!
I can practically smell the desperation for friendship on the last sentence. Sounds like Mami."...This is just awkward."
"I-isn't it rude to listen in, though?"
"I can't help it..."
I can practically smell the desperation for friendship on the last sentence. Sounds like Mami.
We're in public. That alone ensures that the bullet doesn't even reach the barrel of the gun. This isn't playing Russian Roulette, we're going in there with precautions.To be honest, even if going after her works out well, it will STILL up Kishis paranoia. Just because it turned out OK doesn't account for the fact that we, IC, went in without knowing ANYTHING. Imagine if we went right up to bitch-mode Kyouko and started saying hello we are meguca. That is what we're doing from Kishis standpoint every time we do this out of the blue. From her viewpoint, this isn't reassuring her, It's playing Russian Roulette, multiple times in a row without spinning again.
Isolation does terrible things to a person's mind.We need to figure out what exactly caused Kishis irrational fear of every single meguca in the world first to get past this, which will take time. So this situation really is one of 'You can't have your cake and eat it'. Either we add to Kishis mounting worries and continue to put it on the backburner, or we see Mami and...can't really meet up in person as much. She'll still have friends, which is no doubt important, and will help her a great deal, but it wouldn't really help as much as I think we suspect it would.
Let her vent that pent up anger and frustration instead of letting it build up inside.Also, part of me senses a GM trap. Mami is a Big Deal, and that makes me suspicious. So I have a feeling that going after her may end up being some kind of last straw for kishi or something. From kishis POV, we keep putting ourselves in risky situations, and keep telling her not to worry without changing what we actually DO a great deal. Think about how the Mariko incident went: We almost lost kishi because we didn't separate ourselves from Mariko before telling her about everything. Even then she wouldn't have taken it well. If we go sprinting off after someone even after she's strongly given all her fears and warnings, that's probably going to Hurt, since we're not really listening to her. And you may say, What about Cathy? She was on edge for that entire training segment, and probably only really went through with it because it was somebody who our Uncle (A person she knew) was acquainted with. Heck, she's probably still terrified of her.
That's the group of girls sitting next to you in the restaurant, politely trying to ignore your loud conversation about snorkels on the Moon, and failing spectacularly."...This is just awkward."
"I-isn't it rude to listen in, though?"
"I can't help it..."
I'm not sure that it's Mami. Who's she talking to? QB?
Not unless you fuck up spectacularly.Hmm... @DrZiztah we facing against walpurgisnacht before Homura loop right?
Yes, but that's not how Kishi sees it. It's an irrational fear, logic doesn't hugely factor into it.We're in public. That alone ensures that the bullet doesn't even reach the barrel of the gun. This isn't playing Russian Roulette, we're going in there with precautions.
These ARE good arguments for Mami. And I won't say that Mami is a bad choice, outside of personal opinions on which to choose right now.Isolation does terrible things to a person's mind.
I can tell you from personal experience that having someone talk to me even once made my entire month. It's pathetic, I know, but that's just what happens.
What Mami has is a whole lot worse.
Besides, distance is no issue with telepathy. We can keep in touch if we want to.
This is a terrible idea, because that's not how it works. When you reach breaking point like that, you don't just vent: That's doing it in a calm, rather controlled manner. When you reach breaking point, you explode, and end up doing or saying things that you don't mean because honestly, in that moment, you just want to lash out.Let her vent that pent up anger and frustration instead of letting it build up inside.
It's good for her, doubly so for Meguca.
But Ziiiiiz, non main characters in restaurants are supposed to be ignorant of the goings on of protagonistsThat's the group of girls sitting next to you in the restaurant, politely trying to ignore your loud conversation about snorkels on the Moon, and failing spectacularly.
And that's why we're going to demonstrate that her fears are wrong again and again and again.Yes, but that's not how Kishi sees it. It's an irrational fear, logic doesn't hugely factor into it.
*Shakes fist*These ARE good arguments for Mami. And I won't say that Mami is a bad choice, outside of personal opinions on which to choose right now.
I'm just saying that this is a situation where, as I said, we can't both have our cake and eat it. Mogu Mogu : V
Screams and rage make a person feel empty and regretful after the experience. Regret is important because it makes them go "I shouldn't have done that, what did I do wrong?" and that should point to her being overly paranoid. For people with very little in the way of relationships, they'll find fault in themselves instead of others.This is a terrible idea, because that's not how it works. When you reach breaking point like that, you don't just vent: That's doing it in a calm, rather controlled manner. When you reach breaking point, you explode, and end up doing or saying things that you don't mean because honestly, in that moment, you just want to lash out.
This would not be good for her, it would just do something that leads to her building greif.
Will it be fatal for friendship/Ship ending? Probably not. But don't just think 'Eh she'll be Fiiiiiiine'. That's ignoring her issues, which is pretty shitty.
Not really. This is like Hitting a square peg into a triangular hole. Kishi is going to refuse it because she's pretty obviously SEEN something to keep telling her otherwise, and us running in Instead creates an impression that one of these days, we're going to do it for the wrong Magical girl and get ourselves killed. Which to be fair is DEFINITELY possible, but not nearly as much as kishi thinks it is.And that's why we're going to demonstrate that her fears are wrong again and again and again.
To do otherwise is to give in to that paranoia, and better we refute it even if she doesn't accept the results.
Not really. I personally expect it to be something akin to how Evelyn acted under the Witches kiss: Not relationship destroying, but the actions certainly hurt her significantly long afterwards, and we had to help her get over those issues. In fact, I'm still not 100% sure if they've gone away completely. This would be worse than that becauseScreams and rage make a person feel empty and regretful after the experience. Regret is important because it makes them go "I shouldn't have done that, what did I do wrong?" and that should point to her being overly paranoid. For people with very little in the way of relationships, they'll find fault in themselves instead of others.
We have the Grief Seeds to spare for such an event. It'll be dangerous, but it's worth it. The first step to solving a problem is accepting it's a problem in the first place, and this is the only way I could think of that will help Kishi do so.