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Number6 said:
You should watch the first GITS movie, if only to figure out whether you like it or not and understand what the other weebs are talking about.

You should definitely watch the Stand Alone Complex series, because its a goddamn masterpiece despite some flaws.
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oh its still on the list.
its just behind Pulp Fiction, Code Geass, Evangelion: Death and Rebirth (heard its easier than the show), Fury Road, Death Note, FMA, Moana, Nightmare before Christmas, Fight Club etc.
 
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Mutton said:
...I'm a weirdo in that I loved SAC but wasn't a huge fan of the first film. It just felt a bit empty
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Nah that's not weird at all. The first film is slow, plodding, navel-gazing, and pretty much in love with itself and its visuals. It also has two characters just flat-out state the themes and message of the film in conversation which is never a good sign. From what I've heard basically all other GITS media is a lot better to jump in.
 
ZerbanDaGreat said:
Nah that's not weird at all. The first film is slow, plodding, navel-gazing, and pretty much in love with itself and its visuals. It also has two characters just flat-out state the themes and message of the film in conversation which is never a good sign. From what I've heard basically all other GITS media is a lot better to jump in.
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I kind of feel like Ergo Proxy was more of a sequel than SAC even. I'm not quite sure if I'd call it navel gazing; rather the film was simply too much about the ambiance instead of the actual themes at play. Moving motifs around instead of doing anything with them.
 
Okay so I just saw the Volcano review and what

My level of knowledge as far as volcanoes are concerned is "I took A-Level Geography". Granted, that clearly means I know infinity times more about volcanic eruptions than the braindead chucklefucks who made this movie.

I am on the verge of frothing at the mouth in fucking rage right now.

Serafina said:
Also quite important: Lava is rarely the only threat about a volcanic eruption.
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Lava is rarely the main threat from a volcanic eruption. Because as you noted, it's about as slow as a man moving at a comfortable stroll. It's terribly destructive to property of course but anyone with a working sense of self preservation and a pair of legs should be able to run the fuck away.

As opposed to the high speed deathclouds of fucking superheated volcanic ash, or the landslides of water, ash, mud, and other assorted nonsense that can bury an entire fucking town in minutes.

Also I suppose lava just liquefies people on contact and the mass goes nowhere. As opposed to setting them on fucking fire through convection.
 
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ZerbanDaGreat said:
Nah that's not weird at all. The first film is slow, plodding, navel-gazing, and pretty much in love with itself and its visuals. It also has two characters just flat-out state the themes and message of the film in conversation which is never a good sign. From what I've heard basically all other GITS media is a lot better to jump in.
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It's a little off-center to say but GITS 2: Innocence is a much more difficult watch than the first movie is; its pace is slower, its philosophy is much more wide-ranging and overtly intellectual--which both necessitates characters spending long stretches of time explaining concepts to each other because it's now necessary exposition and still means that if you aren't at least a couple years deep into a philosophy major that you won't be able to follow those conversations well (it's the kind of film whose subtitles need 'further reading' citations) and are thus very likely to just wind up lost and confused as the film goes on--and for the final cherry on top its plot doesn't quite work if you don't get it.
 
shinaobi said:
It's a little off-center to say but GITS 2: Innocence is a much more difficult watch than the first movie is; its pace is slower, its philosophy is much more wide-ranging and overtly intellectual--which both necessitates characters spending long stretches of time explaining concepts to each other because it's now necessary exposition and still means that if you aren't at least a couple years deep into a philosophy major that you won't be able to follow those conversations well (it's the kind of film whose subtitles need 'further reading' citations) and are thus very likely to just wind up lost and confused as the film goes on--and for the final cherry on top its plot doesn't quite work if you don't get it.
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Thank you. The ending has stuck with me since the first time I watched it, very much like Akira's. (Though, not a philosophy major, just a hobbiest. Mainly due to things like GITS.) The fact that the newest move decided to shit on it by mirroring but diverging so heavily is part of why I'm still really angry at it.
 
Well, I got hit hard by a ton of work and not a lot of time, but I finally have a weekend and I'm doing 4 movies. The first 3 are foreplay sure, but the 4th?



AAWWWWW YEAH, GOOD OLD FASHIONED BAD MOVIE
 
They realized they needed oxygen masks but not like googles or extra braces or anything after the plot mandated the jetliner's cockpit lose its windows?
 
I want to complain that a high G manoeuvre like that would probably knock everyone onboard unconscious but that's hardly the only problem in that scene.
 
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Athene said:
Well, I got hit hard by a ton of work and not a lot of time, but I finally have a weekend and I'm doing 4 movies. The first 3 are foreplay sure, but the 4th?



AAWWWWW YEAH, GOOD OLD FASHIONED BAD MOVIE
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Now I can see why Airplane! was so silly, if this was the sort of thing they were parodying.
 
Eh, the original Ghost in The Shell manga opened with Mokoto Kusanagi telling a bunch of child laborers to get back to work and to be grateful to society for giving them jobs, before a stinger shows the child laborers perpetuating the horrifying cycle of child slavery by acting like their former masters. And it's treated as a good thing. And a joke.

I wish I was kidding about the above.
 
Question? what's the current discussion of fiction on? Or can I just hijack this threat for a bit to do some ranting on video game storylines.
 
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