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@Shadows pardon if we've already had this confirmed, but do we need to do anything to improve an existing design with newly discovered materials/fuels/methods? Or is it an automatic process?
 
pbluekan said:
@Shadows pardon if we've already had this confirmed, but do we need to do anything to improve an existing design with newly discovered materials/fuels/methods? Or is it an automatic process?
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Leaning towards 'needs a redesign/update project' but that'll probably take the form of 'initiate the redesign with a single dice, we'll do a subturn where we hash out what that looks like, and then lock an engineering dice on it for an appropriate amount of time'.
 
[X] Plan: Promises First, Party Later
-[X] Construct an R-4 Dawn (35R per dice, 117/120, costs 1 build capacity til complete) (2 Payload Mass capacity) (1 die)
--[X] And launch it (1 Operations dice; specify payload)
-[X] Construct a Payload
--[X] Curiosity-class Satellite (20R per die) (2 die)
--[X] And launch it (1 Operations dice; specify payload)

-[X] Build a Scientific Complex (25R per die)
--[X] Beijing Institute for Chemical Research (CHEM) (0/450) (3 dice)
--[X] New Delhi Institute for Physics (PHYS) (0/450) (3 dice)
-[X] Big Ear [PHYS] (20R per die; At least 1 dice must be Facilities, 0/300) (2 Facilities dice)

-[X] Conduct Design Studies (Alternative Launch Systems) [AERO, PHYS] (5R per die, 177/300, ???) (1 die)
-[X] Nuclear Power Plant Design Studies (8 turns, 1 locked dice, 25R per turn)

-[X] Conduct Materials Research (Phase 4) [MATSCI] (20R per die, 4/350) (3 dice)
-[X] Big Ear [PHYS] (20R per die; At least 1 dice must be Facilities, 0/300) (1 Science die)

-[X] The Right Stuff (91/300, 5R per dice) (3 dice)
-[X] Bothering Councilors

This activates all but one die at 440R/turn, and puts us on track to be finishing all of our promises as soon as possible without interrupting any ongoing projects.

For future note, promising to build infrastructure is a net loss on PS if we're operating at high funding levels. Either we take Bothering Councilors, which costs us more PS than we get from the promise, or we take Construction and Reconstruction Support. Two levels of electrical over a year is 2.06 dice/month, at a cost of 51.65 R/turn. At a 5:1 ratio of R/turn to PS, that costs 10.33 PS; we got 5 PS from the promise, so it's a net loss of 5.33 PS. If we want to improve background stats, it's better to just not pick [GRAD] options and instead do hiring regularly through the year.

Edit: forgot to list nuclear design studies

Edit2: To compare the two plans so far, since they're almost identical:
  • Etran cancels the photovoltaics and puts less into matsci to speed progress on Big Ear, I keep it running
  • Etran splits the politics (excluding bothering councillors) over university rocket competitions, propagandizing nuclear, and eng job fair; I put it all into recruitment.
Otherwise we have almost identical plans :D

[X] Plan: Doing More With Less

Edit3: after a clarification, adjusted point spending (we need both 1 fac and 1 sci die on big ear per turn, AIUI)

Edit4: to make it explicitly clear, two dice are being used to construct satellites, both of which are getting launched; I just formatted it weird
 
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[X] Plan: Doing More With Less
-[X] Construct an R-4 Dawn (117/120) (1 die, -35R)
--[X] And launch it (1 die)
---[X] Curiosity-class satellite
-[X] Construct a Payload
--[X] Curiosity-class Satellite (1 die, -20R)
-[X] Build a Scientific Complex
--[X] Beijing Institute for Chemical Research (CHEM) (0/450) (3 dice, -75R)
--[X] New Delhi Institute for Physics (PHYS) (0/450) (3 dice, -75R)
-[X] Big Ear [PHYS] (0/300) (2 Facilities dice, -40R)
-[X] Rudimentary Heat Shielding [MATSCI] (1/2 turns) (1 die, -15R)
-[X] Observation Satellites (1/4 turns) (1 die, -15R)
-[X] Human-rated Rocketry (1/8 turns) (1 die, -20R)
-[X] Nuclear Power Plant Design Studies (0/8 turns) (1 die, -25R)
-[X] Conduct Design Studies (Alternative Launch Systems) [AERO, PHYS] (177/300) (1 die, -5R)
-[X] Conduct Materials Research (Phase 4) [MATSCI] (4/350) (3 dice, -60R)
-[X] Big Ear [PHYS] (0/300) (2 Science dice, -40R)
-[X] University Rocket Competitions (1 die, -20R)
-[X] Bothering Councilors (1 die) (-10 PS)
-[X] Propagandize for Nuclear Power (1 die, -2 PS)
-[X] Engineering Job Fair (56/150) (1 die, -5R)

Similar to but somewhat pricier than CZ's plan, but it gets more done, uses more of our surplus PS, and gets us that partially complete Engineering die. Worthwhile, I think. The original proposal post has more details that I left out of the vote, if you're curious.

Edited to remove a redundancy.
 
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[X] Plan: Doing More With Less
[X] Plan HOLD ON A MINUTE, Let's research a third stage.
 
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[X] Plan HOLD ON A MINUTE, Let's research a third stage.
Resources: 445/485
Operations (5/5 dice, +3 bonus, -75R)
-[X] Construct an R-4 Dawn (117/120) (1 die, -35R)
--[X] And launch it (2 die)
---[X] Curiosity-class satellite
-[X] Construct a Payload
--[X] Curiosity-class Satellite (2 die, -40R)

Facilities (8/8 dice, +10 bonus, -190R)
-[X] Expand the Assembly Complex - 182/350 1 dice 20R
-[X] Build a Scientific Complex
--[X] Beijing Institute for Chemical Research (CHEM) (0/450) (3 dice, -75R)
--[X] New Delhi Institute for Physics (PHYS) (0/450) (3 dice, -75R)
-[X] Big Ear [PHYS] (0/300) (1 die, -20R)

Engineering (5/5 dice, +9 bonus, -75R)
-[X] Removed Locked die from Human Rated Rocketry
-[X] Rudimentary Heat Shielding [MATSCI] (1/2 turns) (1 die, -15R)
-[X] Observation Satellites (1/4 turns) (1 die, -15R)
-[X] Multi-Stage Designs (0/2 turns) (1 die, -10R)
-[X] Strap-on Boosters (0/250) (1 die 10R)
-[X] Nuclear Power Plant Design Studies (0/8 turns) (1 die, -25R)


Science (5/5 dice, +9 bonus, -100R)
-[X] Conduct Materials Research (Phase 4) [MATSCI] (4/350) (3 dice, -60R)
-[X] Big Ear [PHYS] (0/300) (1 die, -20R)
-[X] Photovoltaic Investigations (1/4 turns, 1 Science dice locked; 20R per turn)

Politics (4/4 dice, +10 bonus, -5R, -14 PS)
-[X] Bothering Councilors 1 die -10 PS
-[X] Propagandize for Nuclear Power 2 dice -4 PS,
-[X] The Right Stuff (91/300) (1 die, -5R)


Edited to show the children their place by building two separate satellites and launching both (using up all our backlog of R-4s.)
 
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[X] Plan Keep It Simple, Stupid

-[X] Ops 2/5 dice, 35R
-[X] Construct an R-4 Dawn - 1 die 35R
-[X] And launch it (1 Ops die; sounding payload)

-[X] Facilities 8/8 dice, 190R
-[X] Expand the Assembly Complex - 182/350 2 dice 40R
-[X] Beijing Institute for Chemical Research - 0/450 3 dice 75R
-[X] New Delhi Institute for Physics - 0/450 3 dice 75R

-[X] Engineering 2/2 (3 locked) dice, 50 + 30 = 80R
-[X] Conduct Design Studies (Alternative Launch Systems) [AERO, PHYS] - 177/300 1 die 5R
-[X] Nuclear Power Plant Design Studies - 1 die locked, 25R

-[X] Science 4/4 (1 locked) dice, 20 + 80 = 100R
-[X] Conduct Materials Research (Phase 4) [MATSCI] - 4/350 4 dice 80R

-[X] Politics 4/4
--[X] Bothering Councilors 1 die -10 PS
--[X] Propagandize for Nuclear Power 2 dice -4 PS,
--[X] The Right Stuff (91/300) (1 die, -5R)
 
Update to everyone that voted for Promises First, Party Later, Shadows clarified on discord that it needs at least one science die, so if the 4 dice on matsci was all you cared about, you may want to take a second look.
 
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We are a LONG way from having a manned space program. Our best and most established rockets still have double-digit chances of blowing up on the launch pad, we need to get that down to lie 5% at least before we can seriously consider a human as a payload.

Shadows said:
GLOBAL - In coordination with the Department of Education, schools around the world will begin offering Esperanto as a required language in addition to the traditional languages spoken in those areas. "It is not intended that Esperanto will replace any language in the region in which it has been spoken," the Education Department's Steering Committee said in a statement, "rather, that it will offer anyone, anywhere, the ability to converse with anyone, from anywhere else."...
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I suppose any international aux-lang is better than none, but I doubt that Warsaw-Paris pidgin will communicate any better than most of the languages the Congress already uses.
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-40 steps SDL)
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lmao imagine how they'll fume when our "alternate launch systems" inevitably proposes an Orion drive.
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The French delegation, for example, gave negative on both counts - while the Germans, after talking with their comrades from Frankfurt and Berlin, decided to support you.
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What are the two separate "counts" here? Opposing nuclear power, and opposing us directly? Curious why the Germans chose to back us. Success of our propaganda action? Lingering contrarianism vs the French, could be anything...
 
General_Urist said:
We are a LONG way from having a manned space program. Our best and most established rockets still have double-digit chances of blowing up on the launch pad, we need to get that down to lie 5% at least before we can seriously consider a human as a payload.
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Could space planes be a safer way to reach orbit?
 
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