Overlady: Attack of the Minions (Thread II)
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Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
One thing I'm curious about is if the spell was designed to only send the caster to the past or everyone in the room, because that little detail could change so much about what is going to happen.
Dragontrapper
Homeless Draconis
- Location
- A Tower in the middle of nowhere
I don't think it sends anyone back it time - its just breaks time. Completely. Forwards and backwards. Notice the one example we have of its prior use is it deleting the reign of some king.
I'm not so sure. Especially given how Gnarl seems to know an awful lot about the spell and what it's done.
BadRoad
a thousand miles
Gnarl was probably around when it was cast the first time, so he can remember what the timeline was like before it was broken.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
I'm pretty sure this will end with Cattleya saving Eleanor by stopping her from ever beating Louise, so that Louise never lost the power of evil, or something like that. Basically returning Eleanor to good, and making it her fault that not only is Cattleya a vampire, but Louise is back to being evil. Louise and Cattleya are the 'heroes' at this time, so they'll fight to preserve the timeline, and Cattleya will finally see how far Eleanor would go to save her.
Basically, I expect the situation to resolve with Louise back to delusional!evil, Cattleya still whatever she is (innocent!evil?), and everything Eleanor's fault so that she has to fix everything but she can't because she's good again.
I think Cattleya was somewhere between lawful neutral and true neutral prior to joining up with Louise. She was more or less an obedient daughter to her parents and loyal noble of her country, with her only transgressions being attributable to her vampiric nature and even then it mostly was limited to sneaking snacks and scaring off bullies. However, given Louise's inability to keep Catt on a non-sapience diet and allowances and needs for her sister's vampiric capabilities, I believe Catt has slipped down into a mild form of Indulgent Evil, with her indulgences being her maid harem (consisting of girls rescued in matters that probably aren't really Heroic) and her love for a variety of bloods from sapient beings and having that blood in what seems to be increasing quantities given the tailoring Jessica needs to do. I'm not sure though, as I don't think i fully understand the alignment system in Overlady.
technically she is 'Chaotic' Neutral with Good/Innocent tendencies, with the Chaotic part of her alignment being caused by her total lack of real social interactions (Naive, innocence and her skewed vision on morality/ethics) and having spent a good part of her life in seclusion and fear of herself being treated as a dangerous Soulless monster and suddenly being 'free' and taken care of someone who 'tolerates' or at least accepts the fact that she is 'different' and has different needs... and the fact that a certified 'Demon/Devil/God' has assured her that she is still in possesion of her soul and that she is indeed Cattleya instead of something else using the memories of Cattleya, so she is in a kind of permanent High after having come to some compromise with her Super-Predatorial Hemavore/Hematophagic instincts.
is she any kind of evil? well yes the indulgent evil, for a given value of it, but is her indulgence Evil enough to be part of the Evil alignment? i doubt so, especially when she still tries to be a good girl, so at best she is an Ultraviolent Indulgent Neutral with Lawful Tendencies thanks to Vampires being Lawful Evil, her being raised as a Lwful Good from a family predisposed towards Neutral 'evil'.
is she any kind of evil? well yes the indulgent evil, for a given value of it, but is her indulgence Evil enough to be part of the Evil alignment? i doubt so, especially when she still tries to be a good girl, so at best she is an Ultraviolent Indulgent Neutral with Lawful Tendencies thanks to Vampires being Lawful Evil, her being raised as a Lwful Good from a family predisposed towards Neutral 'evil'.
Pretty sure the Vallerie family is predisposed towards Lawful / Pragmatic Evil, or was bred for that alignment.
dunno, Insane Evil, Overlord Evil maybe, i mean the Lawful comes more from the noble titles and the responsability over their fiefdom, but we really don't have any real example beyond Evil because Gramps was a vampire (Lawful Evil), granny is in an asylum and mom and dad are 'White Sheeps' which influenced the three Crazy Evil Sisters
Eldest is crazy with Guilt and 'Ego/Pride'
Middle is currently Unstable thanks to Vampire+emotional shock+she can get High as fuck with blood and violence, plus she thinks Vampiric Mega-Wolves are cute&cuddly Puppies
Youngest still thinks that she has a chance tobe 'defeated' on her terms and get away with being a 'Hero', and thus is deluded.
or Maybe all Evil (with capital E) is Crazy/Insane and is just evil (little e) that is, well our normal brand of badness just with less 'Spark'
Eldest is crazy with Guilt and 'Ego/Pride'
Middle is currently Unstable thanks to Vampire+emotional shock+she can get High as fuck with blood and violence, plus she thinks Vampiric Mega-Wolves are cute&cuddly Puppies
Youngest still thinks that she has a chance tobe 'defeated' on her terms and get away with being a 'Hero', and thus is deluded.
or Maybe all Evil (with capital E) is Crazy/Insane and is just evil (little e) that is, well our normal brand of badness just with less 'Spark'
- Location
- oregon, usa
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If Louise is Delusional Evil, then Catt would likely be Oblivious Evil. Louise rationalizes everything she does. Catt just does not quite get that what she is doing is Evil. This is, of course helped along by having Louise who rationalizes everything away be one of her primary conversation partners.
NomDeRNG
This Title Gives Me +3 Dorkitude
- Location
- Seattle
You're hoping Louise sleeps with her father and gives birth to herself?
- Location
- Spain
As far as paradoxes goes this IS one of the most reocurring ones in these sort of instances. It's like the 1 in a Millionth chance thing happening 9 times out of 10, or that explosions have to have a flaming wheel rolling away from them or that any chase scene always has two guys moving a glass pane even if glass hasn't even been invented yet, there are rules and then there are RULES.
In essence... it could've maybe have had happened.
I'm pretty sure that the time travelling fathering or grandfather oneself is more likely. Mostly because I've never heard of a story of a character who mothered themselves via time travel.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
All You Zombies, Robert Heinlein
beyond the while 'incestual' vibes of Louise being her own mother...
just how would it work, from a scientific point, i mean if:
Karin+Duke de la Vallerie= Louise
and
Louise=Karin
would it end up being something like
(Karin+Duke de la Vallerie)+ Duke de la Vallerie=WTFOMGBBQ? (recursive WTF on meta level if this is a feraking time loop.
then again Time Shatterring renders it all moot because it fucks with causality.
just how would it work, from a scientific point, i mean if:
Karin+Duke de la Vallerie= Louise
and
Louise=Karin
would it end up being something like
(Karin+Duke de la Vallerie)+ Duke de la Vallerie=WTFOMGBBQ? (recursive WTF on meta level if this is a feraking time loop.
then again Time Shatterring renders it all moot because it fucks with causality.
it ends with her going back just enough to LOLNope Eleanore's plans with a Lightning Bolt to the face and her reclaming the Overlord Title because god knows she has been the most responsible and less crazy holder of said title thus far AND she has a PLAN to use her Evilness for the Good of the Realm without messing with Time and Causality (the poor deluded fool).
Louise doesn't have a sex life. You'd have to be a pretty good person to say that she actually has a boyfriend. Between her work and her repressed nature, I don't even think anything happens in her bedroom but sleeping and unwanted bedtime stories.
Give it a few arcs and a chapter post on QQ.
ACHIEVEMENT: Rising Dragon. Bag and shag the Dragon Emperor.
You say that like either individual trusts the other even remotely, much less without two layers of plate between each other. Hell it would be even worse for Lee to trust Louise as she's not the sort to ever take off the Gauntlet willingly on top of Overperson tradition demanding that her helmet is kept on. Or that there is even a path for that achievement after ES spared one of the people Lee's quest wanted dead.
or that that is the achieve I want to see ES earn..
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I'm still positive that the Devs were trolling us when they made the Pairing-a-moar Achievement, there's no possible way to juggle all the romance routes at once.