Bull. This is EarthScorpion were talking about hear! Also I would like to second the "Can we please keep Good Heroic Louise?" This is a legitimately interesting turn, especially for EarthScorpion.
Author doesn't matter. Throwing out how many chapters of character dev, etc, etc, for this kind of switch screams bad idea. And that's without taking into account that being Good and Heroic is against the whole bloody point of Overlord.
 
Well there's always the True Neutral path, play one of the other and get the best of Evil and Good... or directly just go the other direction full Renegade/Rejection route; "F*ck the duality of Good and Evil, f*ck you Evil gauntlet, f*ck you Good heritage but mostly just f*ck you reality!" *Thunder* "You heard me, F*ck youuuu!" It'd be interesting.
 
Personally I'm of the opinion that losing the Gauntlet just sucked up all the Louise's evil magic reserves and stuck them in her sister. Once she has had time to rest and replenish her natural evil magic will recover enough to reassert dominance.
 
I actually like this change, but we all know it's probably temporary.
Louise will probably wear the Gauntlet again, but not before the three sisters have a face off.
Well, Louise butting into Cattleya's vengeance against Eleanore for fucking up her life, but a face off nonetheless.

Also, the fact that Louise was indeed mini-Karin this whole time makes me smile.
 
I really would like for Louise to be good forever even if i doubt it.

It's just...now i only feel pity for her, this means that for her entire life she has been influenced/controlled by the Void and that her actions and attitudes were not entirely hers.

And that's the thing, until Eleanore took that magic away, Louise never had a chance to live with her true self, and now she finds herself being nicer, calmer and more empathetic than ever and it's clear that on some level, she finds it odd, because that is not how she has been her entire life, and that is just sad.

I want Louise to adapt to not being influenced for once in her entire life, to come to grips with the idea that her magic was in some level controlling her for her entire life, that in every moment of her life, no matter how sad or happy it was, the Void had been controlling her, that her friends and family never got the chance to meet her true self, only her Void self.

I want to see Louise, for a few chapters at least, just have a chance to be her natural self for once in her entire life.
 
Eleanore... wow she sucks at being evil. She rejected the minions when that would have given her an easy way to kill certain someone she wanted to kill. And also get back that fragment the bastard stole.

And the gauntlet have her Louise's Void? And her evil. Louise ended being so good is incredible.

I wonder what's going on with the unicorn...
 
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I really would like for Louise to be good forever even if i doubt it.

It's just...now i only feel pity for her, this means that for her entire life she has been influenced/controlled by the Void and that her actions and attitudes were not entirely hers.

And that's the thing, until Eleanore took that magic away, Louise never had a chance to live with her true self, and now she finds herself being nicer, calmer and more empathetic than ever and it's clear that on some level, she finds it odd, because that is not how she has been her entire life, and that is just sad.

I want Louise to adapt to not being influenced for once in her entire life, to come to grips with the idea that her magic was in some level controlling her for her entire life, that in every moment of her life, no matter how sad or happy it was, the Void had been controlling her, that her friends and family never got the chance to meet her true self, only her Void self.

I want to see Louise, for a few chapters at least, just have a chance to be her natural self for once in her entire life.

Well, it's arguable whether this version of Louise, stripped of the Evil magic that has been part of her since she was born, actually counts as her "true" self. Just pointing that out.
 
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Don't get to giddy at the prospect of Good/deredere Louise, once she gets a bit of time to run up some steam she's sure to saddle up and unleash her unbridled (righteous) fury to put an end to this foalishness.
 
I really would like for Louise to be good forever even if i doubt it.

It's just...now i only feel pity for her, this means that for her entire life she has been influenced/controlled by the Void and that her actions and attitudes were not entirely hers.

And that's the thing, until Eleanore took that magic away, Louise never had a chance to live with her true self, and now she finds herself being nicer, calmer and more empathetic than ever and it's clear that on some level, she finds it odd, because that is not how she has been her entire life, and that is just sad.

I want Louise to adapt to not being influenced for once in her entire life, to come to grips with the idea that her magic was in some level controlling her for her entire life, that in every moment of her life, no matter how sad or happy it was, the Void had been controlling her, that her friends and family never got the chance to meet her true self, only her Void self.

I want to see Louise, for a few chapters at least, just have a chance to be her natural self for once in her entire life.

While I do like Good!Louise What really interest me is what will be of Eleanore once/if she looses the Gauntlet in turn. If it sucked the Tsun out of Louise... Can it suck the Mean out of Eleanore ?
 
Louise the Pure, does has a nice ring to it...

Still how just how will the forces of good and evil react as super nice mini-Karin comes in riding a unicorn?

Louise the Zero Percent Evil.

Twice the dere! None of the tsun!

It's canon for the Light Novels at least, in the last volume, Louise loses her void magic permanently, making her and everyone else think she has now become an actual Zero...until she tries to do magic and out comes wind, and it's revealed that without the Void forcing itself on her, she is a Wind Mage.

So this is actually canon.

It wasn't canon when I planned this bit out back in, oh, 2014 or so - but it was a reasonable extrapolation from Yosette and how the Void transferred to her, that it suppresses your natural magic. Then it was just a choice of "Do I make her a pure Wind mage, or Wind-Water... oh wait, the second is Tabitha - Wind it is!".
 
...Unicorn NOT trying to trample Louise...
Guess that Louise can employ few demon lawyers and sue horse-kind for racism towards peoples with glowing eyes? Louise's eyes were pretty, friendly pink kind of glow, not obviously evil red or yellow? Surely there are some Good being with glowing eyes too?

This lawsuit will be... worst/best thing ever that happened to demon lawyers? So much gold to take over year long process?
And with that said, she marched off, guided by her familiar's sight. Gnarl did not break the connection, and stayed there, floating beside her, but she refused to listen. She knew where she was going and wasn't prepared to bow to him – to anyone. The other minions, caught up in unfamiliar feelings of unfamiliarhood, trailed behind her for want of anything better to do.
Eleanore is... not that intelligent as though or she just doesn't care any more? In past was spending hours over her every action to justify it being Good? Now huge parts of plan checking list are being skipped?
"Why do you think humies put bodies in boxes?" Scyl wondered. "Maybe they is trying to keep track of them until they find a blue humie. I mean, humies are sort of brown-pink, so there has gotta be some green, blue and red humies out there."
More like opposite to make sure peoples stay dead. All those zombie plagues or making sure cousins you killed to take over crown can't strike back... That's why we nail box and throw it deep underground... We need to put some chains around boxes, too...:whistle:
"I'm not surprised," Cattleya said, in a tone nearly as dead as she was. "Well, perhaps I'm a little surprised that Louise let her do that, but I'm not surprised that Eleanore fell to the forces of darkness. And not the ones on the right side, like us." Unblinking she considered the minions clinically. "Shouldn't you be working for Eleanore now?"
Ehh... is there no one who would defend Eleanore as "jerk with heart of gold"? And by that I mean some of her friend and workers in-universe?
Her reign as Overlady... it will not last a week, maybe not even full day or hour even?
On a side note given her already given looking just like her mother at her age... has apparently square class wind magic... is riding a unicorn instead of a manticore which means she's over the top pure good...Has the forces of the Abyss split their time panicking, profiting off those panicking or taking bets yet?
And just few hours ago Louise "exposed" Bealogi as Heaven's double agent, actually being Good, and proclaimed to be on hunt to traitors of Evil.....
I want Eleanore to remain the new Overlady long enough to see her steal Louise's not-boyfriend, the Emperor of Cathay.

Older sisters. So mean.
No. Eye color changed and making sub-optimal decisions like refusing Gnarl's advices or services of minions throwing themselves at Eleanore's feet to serve her. Something would be obviously wrong to someone paranoid as him.

This might be mark against Louise as being sub-optimal since she got usurped, not careful enough? Also... if gauntlet suddenly starts to vibrate as cell phone "you have 1 new message"... and some emperor congratulating her on her speech an dress... "WHAT? Just what was my little sister up to?"
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For Void magic to so switch hands... would have expected that Louise has to be killed first... and then maybe fragment of her soul (or something) that is providing Void magic jumps to new person, usually just born baby, limited by bloodlines and kingdom?

Actually... if we get all four Void mages in one place... those fragments would join into one fully soul, causing Brimir maybe first Overlord or Cthulhu or some Dark god to be reborn? Elves called Void magic evil and plot by church was about having to catch them all Void mages and see what happens, hopefully solving crisis?

... Likely wrong idea...
 
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Getting all the Void mages together in one place to see what happens sounds like a really good bad idea. Fortunately, I think the most probable outcome is murder.
 
No. Eye color changed and making sub-optimal decisions like refusing Gnarl's advices or services of minions throwing themselves at Eleanore's feet to serve her. Something would be obviously wrong to someone paranoid as him.

Yes, sure, because listening to the advice of Gnarl, Evil Advisor to Malevolently Evil Overlords and Overladies, is an incredibly bad idea that can't possibly go right.


...Wait.

Nevermind that Emperor Lee is hardly omniscient.
 
The taller, blonder and more american sounding Overlady is obviously a body double being used to confuse some very nearsighted peasants.
Or an understudy.
 
The taller, blonder and more american sounding Overlady is obviously a body double being used to confuse some very nearsighted peasants.
Or an understudy.

"American? What's an American?"

"Oh, them? Well, they do like their human sacrifices. And their snake gods. And corn. I believe they mean that your dialect sounds rather more... Diabolical."
 
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Guess that Louise can employ few demon lawyers and sue horse-kind for racism towards peoples with glowing eyes? Louise's eyes were pretty, friendly pink kind of glow, not obviously evil red or yellow? Surely there are some Good being with glowing eyes too?

This lawsuit will be... worst/best thing ever that happened to demon lawyers? So much gold to take over year long process?
I don't think the color difference would matter. Horses IRL (and thus I'm assuming by extension, unicorns) are known for having dichromatic vision – they can see blue and yellow just fine, but not red or green (both of which apparently come across to a horse as shades of yellow).

To them, Louise's eyes wouldn't have looked any different from any other Overlord's.
 
Yes, sure, because listening to the advice of Gnarl, Evil Advisor to Malevolently Evil Overlords and Overladies, is an incredibly bad idea that can't possibly go right.


...Wait.

Nevermind that Emperor Lee is hardly omniscient.
Wasn't there WOG that previous spymaster working for Emperor Lee was a dragon? Powerful ones being shapeshifters? He might have experience with finding doubles who killed and replaced his generals and advisor.

When Lee sends present to Louise... he might accidentally kill Elanoire, since he confused her for Louise?

"Louise... is there any chance caused war between Tristan and Kathaya?"
*Henriata puts hands on Louise's mouth*
"What? No!!! More like possible alliance by marriage, if she listens to me."
"Then what is going on with those presents! Almost got me killed!"
I don't think the color difference would matter. Horses IRL (and thus I'm assuming by extension, unicorns) are known for having dichromatic vision – they can see blue and yellow just fine, but not red or green (both of which apparently come across to a horse as shades of yellow).

To them, Louise's eyes wouldn't have looked any different from any other Overlord's.
Discrimination just for eyes glowing, not for eye color? We need to put few actually Good saints with glowing eyes near horses to see if they will be attacked...

Though... it might just be peoples with glowing eyes are powerful magically, so horses are killing competition...
You only say this because you don't yet understand the depths of the Horsey Conspiracy.

They have been slowly working to mold Louise towards their goals from the very first chapter of this story.
Many brave ponies gave their lives to bring Louise to this very point and now they are poised to grasp their ultimate victory in their hooves!

Anyone who played the first Overlord game should remember that Unicorns are just as easily corruptible as any other creature and can be just as bloodthirsty as Catt.

Personally I think the unicorn will lead Louise to Eleanore and then reveal himself to be the Dark Equine Lord, Bad Horse out to seize the gauntlet for himself!
He will strike down all before him with his Neigh of the Apocalypse!
 
I really don't understand people here. Canon, the author and his beta all say that Void Magic (and the attendant powers thereof) can be transferred between those of related blood - I wrote a whole post on how that was what Louis was breeding for, how all Void powers we've seen so far run in the rulers/familial lines Brimir set up over Halkeginia. We see Ozymandias becoming stronger once Eleanore seizes the gauntlet - gaining the Gandalfr powers, presumably, especially given he tries to show Eleanore something on his left hand. Why is it so hard for people to accept that Eleanore seizing the Gauntlet makes her Tristain's Void Mage, and thus frees Louise from the burden? Why is it so hard to accept that Eleanore and Louise were candidates for the power of the Void, that Louise was the one who succumbed to it and gained the ability to use it through the Gauntlet, and that without the Gauntlet, the power then reverts to the wielder of the Gauntlet who is also a candidate?
Throwing out how many chapters of character dev
I really don't understand this. I feel this strengthens the character development a lot. We learn that both Eleanore and Louise have been struggling with the burden of being born with an incredibly powerful tendency towards Evil, and that each managed to stay Good, only expressing their Evil in minor ways (meanness for Eleanore, anger/Tsundereness for Louise). How is that less character development than Louise just being Tsundere in general?
This chapter was one I absolutely loved, because it showed us some of Louise's best traits that are so often overlooked. We see her determination, that refusal to give up no matter how much it hurts. We see Louise's moral fiber, her ability to choose to do what is right no matter the cost to her. We see her compassion, her willingness to care for others despite the pain they've caused her. And those are all canon traits of Louise. This chapter was absolutely amazing in terms of character development, and I do hope we keep seeing more of good Louise, that she realizes she doesn't need the Gauntlet - that she can be Evil or Good without it choosing for her.
Moreover, since Elenore had stolen
Eleanore. Also, in this chapter there were several more instances of Baelogi being referred to as Baelogji, so I'm not sure which is the right name any more...
 
I really don't understand this. I feel this strengthens the character development a lot. We learn that both Eleanore and Louise have been struggling with the burden of being born with an incredibly powerful tendency towards Evil, and that each managed to stay Good, only expressing their Evil in minor ways (meanness for Eleanore, anger/Tsundereness for Louise). How is that less character development than Louise just being Tsundere in general?
This chapter was one I absolutely loved, because it showed us some of Louise's best traits that are so often overlooked. We see her determination, that refusal to give up no matter how much it hurts. We see Louise's moral fiber, her ability to choose to do what is right no matter the cost to her. We see her compassion, her willingness to care for others despite the pain they've caused her. And those are all canon traits of Louise. This chapter was absolutely amazing in terms of character development, and I do hope we keep seeing more of good Louise, that she realizes she doesn't need the Gauntlet - that she can be Evil or Good without it choosing for her.
This isn't character development from where she was. This is character re-write. She didn't develop into this, it was literally forced to happen. Coincidentally chucking the character dev of this fic (I don't give a damn about 'canon' character dev for her here, it literally has no bearing) out the damn window. It doesn't *matter* if this is closer to her canon personality. It really doesn't. It isn't her personality as seen in this fic, which is all that bloody well matters. So yes, it's throwing around 50 chapters of character development out the window.

Now sure, you can say you prefer the more canonish Louise, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. There was no development of her character that made her this nice, selfless, compassionate person. There was "*Poof* you're a nice person!"

Plus, yes, This is *boring* for me. It's not *nearly* as fun as Louise' slow acceptance of her heritage.

And sure, maybe Louise doesn't need the gauntlet, but that's completely besides the point even you were making here. The Gauntlet didn't make her like that. And even if she doesn't need it, guess who can't be allowed to keep it? And guess, in turn, how much more doable it is to finish off the extensively corrupt council with what the gauntlet provides? She needs an Army, the Gauntlet gives her one.
 
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