Really makes me dread what Eleanore's going to get up to as Overlady considering the Gauntlet ranked her mental willpower lower than Louise's.
Honestly that's less a statement about how weak Eleanore's willpower is and more a statement about just how ridiculously stubborn Louise is capable of being. I mean, her flat-out denial of having any feelings for Henrietta should be enough evidence on that score.
 
Ah, civil war! Dissension in the ranks.

Wouldn't be a properly evil story without it. Actually, isn't Guiche's band of heroes heading to Amstrelldame?
 
Or it could all be resolved in the first paragraph of the next chapter by the strategic application of a cosh.
 
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Louise is stubborn. She still thinks she is serving Good. It would take a betrayal of the worst sort to completely turn her.

I think Elanore is up to the task.
Are you kidding?

"Saving" Eleanore. Re-claiming the Gauntlet afterwards to "sacrifice" herself for a "noble" cause as the only one who can withstand the Evil intellect within ...

Damn. This is a Delusional wet dream.

Did ES really have to max out the meter so early into the playthrough?
This can only end in one way - Eleanore getting her arm cut off. Although... Oh, bugger; now the minions work for Eleanore.
Or she could get trounced in an overly complicated, ultra-secret, uber-hard side mission. And be "forced" to skulk quietly (or as quietly as she can manage) to Luise's Tower to avoid Karin's backlash, to become another "loyal" lieutenant.

Luise does still has her current lieutenants. Who are loyal to her, not the gauntlet.

Also, the gauntlet is linked to the Tower Heart, and by extension to the Minions but .... It has been strongly hinted that the Minions, collectively, are Luise's familiars.

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Actually, isn't Guiche's band of heroes heading to Amstrelldame?
Wait a sec.

"Evil Overlady defeated by a plucky band of Heroes ... but nobody found the body."

Does this event double as a Karin meter reset? Does this mean it's time for another Heroic Interlude?
 
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Welp, that certainly was a thing I wasn't expecting at all. I thought this arc would've wrapped up this chapter, but I guess there's actually another one to go. Not complaining though, Eleanore being tempted by the Guantlet makes so much sense.
I fully expect a Heroic Interlude, with the Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry occupying the next chapter.

This can only end in one way - Eleanore getting her arm cut off. Although... Oh, bugger; now the minions work for Eleanore.
Perhaps, but Henrietta (and her undead horde) and Cattleya (and her pets) and possibly Jessica still work for Louise. There's also that Hero from back East who just knows he's been imprisoned by the Evil Overlady and may not remember exactly how tall she was.

Also, the gauntlet is linked to the Tower Heart, and by extension to the Minions but .... It has been strongly hinted that the Minions, collectively, are Luise's familiars.
Not right now they're not. Gnarl's Familiar runes are gone. (And he's the only one in the Abyss with Louise's Trusted Lieutenants who might know that the Gauntlet has changed hands... which may complicate matters with respect to said Trusted Lieutenants coming to the rescue.)
 
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Not right now they're not. Gnarl's Familiar runes are gone. (And he's the only one in the Abyss with Louise's Trusted Lieutenants who might know that the Gauntlet has changed hands... which may complicate matters with respect to said Trusted Lieutenants coming to the rescue.)
But Gnarl no longer has the sigil on his hand; that's what worries me.
Which leads us to the edit: Overlady Eleonore vs Heroes.

Bonus points for Luise & co playing the role of escaped hostages to dupe convince the Heroes to help them thwart a great Evil.

So yeah ... overcomplicated side mission that may double as Karin meter reset.
 
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Well. That just happened. I can't really come up with any coherent analysis.

ES, did you decide you needed to top the fake epilogue wham from Power Games?
 
Oh, wow. I didn't realize it before but Louise can dump everything on Elanor if the heroes show up. After all Louise isn't the one who just trapped Montspan's soul, has glowing eyes, an evil artifact, or villainous monologue. Poor Louise is guilty of, gasp, organizing a Founder's Day celebration. Besides everyone knows Louise is too incompetent to cast magic much less be an evil overlord.

Given i don't think she would even try that, she is too stubborn to try such a devious ploy.

Out of curiosity; can Louise use evil magic right now? She has been learning, but she lacks the gauntlet- so ?
 
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Oh, wow. I didn't realize it before but Louise can dump everything on Elanor if the heroes show up. After all Louise isn't the one who just trapped Montspan's soul, has glowing eyes, an evil artifact, or villainous monologue. Poor Louise is guilty of, gasp, organizing a Founder's Day celebration. Besides everyone knows Louise is too incompetent to cast magic much less be an evil overlord.

Given i don't think she would even try that, she is too stubborn to try such a devious ploy.

Out of curiosity; can Louise use evil magic right now? She has been learning, but she lacks the gauntlet- so ?

The gauntlet was acting as a focus for her magic. Remember she used to use a staff to cast? Also remember that Eleanor dropped her wand...
 
Well. I thought I had an idea where this story was going, but you really shook things up here. This was an excellent twist. I didn't see it coming at all, but it fits so perfectly that looking back I can't imagine how it could have happened any other way. All those quotes about the temptations of evil, how easy it is to give in to corruption, the bits about heroes being possessed by dark artifacts, the comments on how mean Eleanor is- those were all foreshadowing. I love it.
 
Oh, I love this chapter. It's really a great counter point to all those people cheering on the use of evil means to get 'good' goals done. Turns out, working with literal demons from hell and crushing bastions of goodness are in fact a sign that you've gone off the deep end and become evil.
 
This was one of my favorite boss fights. I never read the light novel or watched the show or I'd have known about the glasses thing for sure.

In the end, managed it by repeatedly catching her in an AI loop of drown her in minions>do chip damage in the brief window where she's destroying them instead of me>run around frantically in circles while minions resurrect each other>rinse>repeat.

Goddamn that shit took forever.

Hey, @Aleph: am I doing this right? :V
 
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I do believe that the head of the Regency Council spoke far too soon about things going tits up back in spring, for clearly it's now that things have truly gone tits up with a side order of fries.

and a diet soda.
 
Louise probably could at least try to blame Eleanore, especially since I think the frame up that occurred is probably not going to help Eleanore's case.

I doubt she will though. We are talking about Louise who was freaking out at the thought of killing Eleanore with the gauntlet on.

And given that it seems that Eleanore while being as mean as ever probably isn't going to be acting as herself- well Louise got knocked out after her sister's speel here:

It's calling to me too. It's warm. Like kittens. That… that utter bastard. That's what he was breeding us for. All those carefully selected spouses with links to the old royalty."

Well, if Louise can remember her "mine, mine, mine" and Eleanore's words prior to being knocked out then Eleanore's actions are probably going to be minutely more reasonable to her. Especially if the gauntlet isn't subtle with the personality change.

I'm not going to let you keep that thing!" Eleanore grated between clenched teeth. "It's probably what corrupted you!

I mean Eleanore looks to have been completely correct here, or would have been if Louise was any less stubborn as she is. Given that Louise has been slowly been turning evil I'm not sure which is right.

I do not need to. I wanted to get you alone. So I could talk to you in without you feeling that you have to lie in front of your subordinates." Eleanore cracked her neck, eyes narrowed. "Louise. Why?"

There's a reason for why the tone of the update shifts here. Eleanore is supremely arrogant, mean and convinced that she knows best. Especially with her youngest sister who she just bailed out of a fight with a dark goddess.

Eleanore also cares about her sister, she even empathizes with Louise:

""I understand the temptation. I really do. When the world seems so very stupid and you're the only one who knows how to fix it and no one will let you. When the world offers you power and it only seems like a tiny little sacrifice that you can give up any time you like. When it just like the only way to fix the world is to start doing the things that you shouldn't, that you mustn't.

"Do you understand? It's the easy path out. But that's all it is. It's easy and it's evil and it's wrong. You need to fight it every day. It's hard and it's thankless and it means having to put up with a lot of very, very, very stupid people. But…"

The arrogance is still there but given that Eleanore has a mile wide ruthless streak she tried to talk Louise down.

From the tone shift onward we were dealing with a tragedy. Neither sister actually wanted the other dead. You had a hero who honestly believed herself to be saving her sister from a mind corrupting evil artifact (and given the effect it had on Eleanore herself she might have been fully correct) and then by virtue of being more vulnerable fell to it herself. And so forth a more immenaitly dangerous evil walked forth.

It says something about this generation of Vallieres that they're terrible at sticking to being Good, but so far they are very loyal to their sisters.
 
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Louise isn't going to sell her sister down the river. She's going to show her that Eleanore is good at being bad... bad at being good... good at being good.... bad at being bad...

Um, are we in evil speak or good speak.

Louise is going to show her sister that she's the hero, and Louise is the villain, and that's how things are suppose to go don't you know. Louise is going to take back her artifact of ultimate evil, and if Eleanore want's to save her from herself she going to need to bring her A game, not this half assed "fall to evil five minutes into the fight' lameness.
 
There was no contract, the runes randomly appeared when Gnarl grabbed Louise to stab her.

Exactly! The Gauntlet wasn't involved in that!

And wow Big sis really has a low Will score. That disqualifies her to be a great Overlady since is basically the gauntlet running the show.

I guess that's what happens when you don't have Void magic to mess up the mind control spells in the evil artifact.
 
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Louise is never going to let this go.

Not the stolen gauntlet thing but the Evil resistance.

She lasted months resisting or at least diverting that thing and Eleanore caved in minutes.

Louise is the good girl.

And Eleanore will never hear the end of it.

Not in a hundred years.
 
Louise is never going to let this go.

Not the stolen gauntlet thing but the Evil resistance.

She lasted months resisting or at least diverting that thing and Eleanore caved in minutes.

Louise is the good girl.

And Eleanore will never hear the end of it.

Not in a hundred years.
That assumes Louise started out as Good. Remember, her natural magic alignment is Evil after all. And she spent a good deal of time in the tower overladying about before she acquired the Gauntlet.
 
That assumes Louise started out as Good. Remember, her natural magic alignment is Evil after all. And she spent a good deal of time in the tower overladying about before she acquired the Gauntlet.
And yet Eleanore went into full supervillain mode ASAP, while Louise never did.

If Louise started Evil it was incredibly lowkey Evil that's questionably evil.
 
Exactly! The Gauntlet wasn't involved in that!
The fact that minions were created by an Overlord who was wielding the Gauntlet, the runes appeared without any input on Louise's part, and the runes just so happened to disappear in the moment the Gauntlet abandoned her for a better wielder suggest otherwise.

But even if the runes aren't a function of the Gauntlet, why exactly wouldn't an ancient powerful artifact of Evil Magic be capable of interfering with them? It has knowledge of Dispel, as Marzipan discovered.
 
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