My Life as Mordred in Warhammer World After Training on Earth Bet

[wowow2264]

You know, I wonder if we are going to get a diplomate from Grand Cathy aka china. I know that their emperor is a dragon whose kids turn into dragons and now that you are a goddess of dragons I could see him sending one of his kids to try and get a marriage out of her to get more dragon blood into the family.

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Okay, this proves to me that I just need to make an info post and be done with it. I'm not going to be doing anything with Cathay outside of background trading as a source of money for Drahcenreich for a couple reasons.

One, It is a lot of work for little gain. I'd have to brain storm a bunch of headcanon stuff that may or may not be canon in a few months based on a bunch of teasers and pitiful scraps of canon lore and would be pointless since Cathay would still be a background country that may or may not have some neat magic that I may or may not explore or combine with all of the other magics I've used so far and possibly, maybe, they could show up in a few hundred years for something.

Two, I'm currently already over half way done with the entire story and it makes little sense to add in a bunch of lore and world building around a country that is only going to get dumped on the wayside right after I had to spend a bunch of time building it up because this story is about Mordred and her life and not some country she doesn't have any reason to care about since she has her own country to worry about without adding in a country that is halfway around the world and with an entire army of monsters between them.

Three, I personally couldn't give a shit about Cathay right now and refuse to even consider writing it. It took me 20 minutes to figure out how to write something even that "polite" to explain how I feel about Cathay, which should tell you something because it certainly tells me something and it isn't good.

So yeah, Cathay is only going to exist in Omakes and the background in this fic. Want to change that? Write something good enough that I can slap canon on it or make your own story about Cathay.

 

[Xhandas]

Heh so she would soon be the patron goddess of secretaries of the realm.. that's good...

Next should she help recreate the washing machine, all of women kind would love her eternally xD. Especially with the baby boom

 

[Lim3_01]

A few crazed lunatics armed with molotovs is so insignificant I'm having a hard time imagining how the empire expects them to weaken Drachenreich at all. I'm having a hard time imagining how the Empire believes they will succeed in killing and/or burning anyone at all. Do they think Mordreds people are living in undefended villages with straw roofs and cardboard walls? Do they believe the dragon-queen isn't bothered to protect her subjects any? I just don't see witchhunters functioning on even the most basic level at all, unless the local powers that be tolerate them, and obviously Drachenreich will not. In fact, forget the guards, a mob of angry villagers with torches and pitchforks can take out the typical witchhunter easier than they could an actual witch... Aside from the ones intentionally suiciding troublesome subordinates, does the empire realize how pitiful this move is? It's far more likely to give the impression that their people are weak than anything else...

It's possible to put together an army of hundreds of thousands together and march them up and down by the pass to try to intimidate Mordred, at the single most disunified point in the empire's history?... In the chapter Mordred called them small armies. Which makes sense I guess, from her perspective, but the actual number is shocking... How do you organize an army in the hundreds of thousands to threaten a foreign land and not have your rivals back home trying to take bites out of you? How do you reliably feed such a large force in a time of primitive and disjointed supply chain other than pillaging enemy territory? Is the empire, or rather, the three empires in much better positions logistically than I imagined? And I would have thought that their hatred for each other and constant in-fighting would keep the major powers from bothering with foreign relations at all...

Sorry if I'm reading to much into all this, but I feel like I have badly misinterpreted the situation somewhere down the line. Do I just not know the strengths of witchhunters? Am I overestimating the cost of raising a medieval army of that size? Do the three emperors happen to have some other advantage to make all this feasible? Or am I right and they just happen to be so incompetent that they do all this anyway in spite of the exhorbitant cost of the armies and the fact that they could literally do anything else with their lunatics, anything at all, and get better results (seriously, at least if they sent them after the elves, the morons would all die long before ever meeting the elves and spare the empire the embarrassment).

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they are that bad. this is a period in which there are breifly 4 emperors fighting over the empire of man and all of them are corrupt morons at best. the empire has been in a state of civil war for 600 years at this point. the empire still has 500 plus years of pointless war before Magnus the Pious puts it back together.

 

[stads]

nice chapter thx for writing it
good to see the mc is on the case of not overworking her people who do the paper work even if its just mean to save her from even more paperwork ^^.
nice amount of fluff with the kids and playing soccer ^^
wonder what the amount of baby painting there are in the castle

 

[Anti-No]

they are that bad. this is a period in which there are breifly 4 emperors fighting over the empire of man and all of them are corrupt morons at best. the empire has been in a state of civil war for 600 years at this point. the empire still has 500 plus years of pointless war before Magnus the Pious puts it back together.

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I realise this is a weakness of the source material, not this story in particular, but how can something that was a country even possibly be still considered a country after having been split in four for 600 years? Nevermind over a millennium?

 

[LollipoPReapeR]

I realise this is a weakness of the source material, not this story in particular, but how can something that was a country even possibly be still considered a country after having been split in four for 600 years? Nevermind over a millennium?

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Thats a good point... How do they refer to each other? They can't call themselves and each other the 'Empire'.

 

[Lord Sia]

I realise this is a weakness of the source material, not this story in particular, but how can something that was a country even possibly be still considered a country after having been split in four for 600 years? Nevermind over a millennium?

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Because it probably wasn't split into four more-or-less stable factions for most or even much of those one thousand years. Instead, like the Holy Roman Empire it is based on, it suffered an endlessly shifting series of alliances as elector counts align themselves with one pretender to the throne or another, based on their own wants and needs (and occasionally that of the province they ostensibly represent).

Another example - pseudo-relevant, given the recent info-post - would be China, which frequently dissolved into civil war as one dynasty fell or was overthrown, only to come back together once someone was strong enough to enforce their claim on most of the 'Middle Kingdom'.

Damn, it made him wonder what manner of creature he was supposed to fight if those he was guarding were so powerful.

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No, no, you've got it backwards. Your job is to keep poor squishy idiots from pestering the Dragon-God-Queen. If they're too powerful for you to fight, your job switches to - again - keeping the other poor squishy idiots out of the way while your Dragon-God-Queen expresses her displeasure.

 

[Cheaf Min]

Playing? That was playing? It looked closer to powerful vampires trying to kill each other with a cannonball being passed around than kids playing with their mother. He would know, that was how he was selected for the royal guard in the first place.

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Damn, that sounds like one hell of a story. I hope random bystander gets a name because he'd be a fun reoccurring character. Just have him such bad luck he just happens to be there for these things and always has something else to compare it to.

 

[wowow2264]

I'm awake again! Which means I can continue answering questions now.

A few crazed lunatics armed with molotovs is so insignificant I'm having a hard time imagining how the empire expects them to weaken Drachenreich at all. I'm having a hard time imagining how the Empire believes they will succeed in killing and/or burning anyone at all. Do they think Mordreds people are living in undefended villages with straw roofs and cardboard walls? Do they believe the dragon-queen isn't bothered to protect her subjects any? I just don't see witchhunters functioning on even the most basic level at all, unless the local powers that be tolerate them, and obviously Drachenreich will not. In fact, forget the guards, a mob of angry villagers with torches and pitchforks can take out the typical witchhunter easier than they could an actual witch... Aside from the ones intentionally suiciding troublesome subordinates, does the empire realize how pitiful this move is? It's far more likely to give the impression that their people are weak than anything else...

It's possible to put together an army of hundreds of thousands together and march them up and down by the pass to try to intimidate Mordred, at the single most disunified point in the empire's history?... In the chapter Mordred called them small armies. Which makes sense I guess, from her perspective, but the actual number is shocking... How do you organize an army in the hundreds of thousands to threaten a foreign land and not have your rivals back home trying to take bites out of you? How do you reliably feed such a large force in a time of primitive and disjointed supply chain other than pillaging enemy territory? Is the empire, or rather, the three empires in much better positions logistically than I imagined? And I would have thought that their hatred for each other and constant in-fighting would keep the major powers from bothering with foreign relations at all...

Sorry if I'm reading to much into all this, but I feel like I have badly misinterpreted the situation somewhere down the line. Do I just not know the strengths of witchhunters? Am I overestimating the cost of raising a medieval army of that size? Do the three emperors happen to have some other advantage to make all this feasible? Or am I right and they just happen to be so incompetent that they do all this anyway in spite of the exhorbitant cost of the armies and the fact that they could literally do anything else with their lunatics, anything at all, and get better results (seriously, at least if they sent them after the elves, the morons would all die long before ever meeting the elves and spare the empire the embarrassment).

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they are that bad. this is a period in which there are breifly 4 emperors fighting over the empire of man and all of them are corrupt morons at best. the empire has been in a state of civil war for 600 years at this point. the empire still has 500 plus years of pointless war before Magnus the Pious puts it back together.

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Basically what Lim3 said, they really are that bad and I am facing increasing difficulty in coming up with reasons why Mordred isn't just going to take them over because there really isn't a good reason why the empire lasted as long as it did considering the absurd amounts of outside threats and internal problems. Honestly, the only thing I can say is that the empire has plot armor in canon because they are the protagonist of the story.

I realise this is a weakness of the source material, not this story in particular, but how can something that was a country even possibly be still considered a country after having been split in four for 600 years? Nevermind over a millennium?

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Yeah... This is a problem I'm realizing because Mordred's sheer level of charisma and legendary amounts of competence (comparisons to those who founded their homelands (Sigmar, Gilles, Miska, etc) are made quite a lot and the vs debates rage fiercely) is dangerously close to taking over the empire by accident...

nice amount of fluff with the kids and playing soccer ^^

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How dare you use that vile term for proper football, you damn Americans!

Sorry, I just had to comment on this since I went through all that (not much) effort to sprinkle in some of Mordred's lingering love for England which just so happens to be the place where soccer/football originated from.

 

[stads]

How dare you use that vile term for proper football, you damn Americans!

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i know thats why i posted soccer ^^
still do hope the kids wont get to let down that playing rugby with the other kids is not an option
perhaps a talk about there ability's once there older

 

[anommalcolm]

Basically what Lim3 said, they really are that bad and I am facing increasing difficulty in coming up with reasons why Mordred isn't just going to take them over because there really isn't a good reason why the empire lasted as long as it did considering the absurd amounts of outside threats and internal problems. Honestly, the only thing I can say is that the empire has plot armor in canon because they are the protagonist of the story.

Yeah... This is a problem I'm realizing because Mordred's sheer level of charisma and legendary amounts of competence (comparisons to those who founded their homelands (Sigmar, Gilles, Miska, etc) are made quite a lot and the vs debates rage fiercely) is dangerously close to taking over the empire by accident...

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Reason why Mordred isn't going to take them over? Because she doesn't feel like it. I mean, she's not obligated to conquer anyone. Even if for whatever reason, people from the empire ask her to rule them on non-conquest terms, she not obligated to accept either. She's entirely justified in just leaving them to their deserved fate. Anyone who wants Mordred's protection can immigrate to her kingdom. Everyone else is out of luck. Even if the people of the Empire start worshipping her en masse. You can pray all you like but there's really no reason why any god or goddess would be obligated to answer, you know... Unless of course, that whole "being a responsible adult" thing somehow encompasses this situation as well? I am most assuredly not a responsible adult, so I don't always get the nuances.

 

[28th00]

Reason why Mordred isn't going to take them over? Because she doesn't feel like it. I mean, she's not obligated to conquer anyone. Even if for whatever reason, people from the empire ask her to rule them on non-conquest terms, she not obligated to accept either. She's entirely justified in just leaving them to their deserved fate. Anyone who wants Mordred's protection can immigrate to her kingdom. Everyone else is out of luck. Even if the people of the Empire start worshipping her en masse. You can ptay all you like but there's really no reason why any god or goddess would be obligated to answer, you know... Unless of course, that whole "being a responsible adult" thing somehow encompasses this situation as well? I am most assuredly not a responsible adult, so I don't always get the nuances.

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And wouldn't that be the biggest insult of all? Knowing that Mordred can easily conquer the Empire, but wanting nothing to do with them because of how much of an ungrateful and unrewarding hassle they'd be. She can, but why would she want to? They're not worth the effort.

I imagine someone asking Mordred on her opinion of the Empire in one of the court sessions and her just going on a very annoyance fuelled rant about them, and it just spreading like wildfire from there. Because of her not realizing how much weight her casual opinion on a country holds to her people, I'd expect some very odd reactions to how little Mordred wants to deal with the mess that is formally named(and informally nothing like an actual) The Empire. Not from her citizens so much as the international merchants and diplomats(they have those, right?).

 

[anommalcolm]

And wouldn't that be the biggest insult of all? Knowing that Mordred can easily conquer the Empire, but wanting nothing to do with them because of how much of an ungrateful and unrewarding hassle they'd be. She can, but why would she want to? They're not worth the effort.

I imagine someone asking Mordred on her opinion of the Empire in one of the court sessions and her just going on a very annoyance fuelled rant about them, and it just spreading like wildfire from there. Because of her not realizing how much weight her casual opinion on a country holds to her people, I'd expect some very odd reactions to how little Mordred wants to deal with the mess that is formally named(and informally nothing like an actual) The Empire. Not from her citizens so much as the international merchants and diplomats(they have those, right?).

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International trade exists, and foreign relations also exist. So, in the technical sense, yes they have those. Whether or not such institutions are organized and the practices refined enough to be anything like what we in the modern world would recognize as "proper merchants" and "proper diplomats"... that's another story entirely. I can't say for sure because diplomacy isn't exactly the focus of a lot of attention in warhammer, but since the era their world is currently (three emperor's era) in very much resembles the dark ages in a lot of ways, it's safe to assume international affairs exist, but are quite limited and primitive... Sorry, I don't know if that was really me being helpful or just me waffling on.

Also, you are correct. I very much want to see everyone's reaction to Mordred's opinion of the Empire now... And her opinions of the other countries, for that matter. I don't think she's interacted with them much yet though.

 

[wowow2264]

Reason why Mordred isn't going to take them over? Because she doesn't feel like it. I mean, she's not obligated to conquer anyone. Even if for whatever reason, people from the empire ask her to rule them on non-conquest terms, she not obligated to accept either. She's entirely justified in just leaving them to their deserved fate. Anyone who wants Mordred's protection can immigrate to her kingdom. Everyone else is out of luck. Even if the people of the Empire start worshipping her en masse. You can ptay all you like but there's really no reason why any god or goddess would be obligated to answer, you know... Unless of course, that whole "being a responsible adult" thing somehow encompasses this situation as well? I am most assuredly not a responsible adult, so I don't always get the nuances.

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Mordred is already milking that excuse as much as she can along with not wanting to throw her people's lives away for little reward but there is very little she can do if the entire empire is overthrown by her imperial worshipers who call for her to become the empress they want her to be. If she wants to piss away basically all of her popularity and have massive strikes and desertions across her land then sure, she could say no in that case. But considering she has no desire to give up an entire decade's worth of work because she is getting sick of all of the work involved in building a country and doesn't want to do it on twice the scale as before but with like ten to twenty times the population involved, she'll say yes and hope that her kids want to take over for her sooner rather than later.

Knowing that Mordred can easily conquer the Empire

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Conquer and winning wars are two different things. Mordred has many advantages over the empire when it comes to war, especially if the empire attacks first (which automatically drafts all mages). But taking very much of the empire's land for Drachenreich would be pretty difficult since despite siphoning a number of people from the empire and the average of 3-6 living children per wife/mistress in a household, Drachenreich still has a shortage of manpower and the army Mordred is amassing contains more of the population than is generally advised and is only possible to support between the constant trading they get, dwarf technological aid, halfling knowhow in the fields, and magical support from the mages. There will also be very little replenishment of her forces for years since this is tapping basically all of her available forces that aren't a part of the Dragon Guard.

So, while she would have the soldiers to kick their asses all over the map, especially if she took the field herself, she would struggle to hold on to the large swabs of land they would have to occupy and protect from all manner of problems that the imperials never took care of properly because their whole country has been decaying for the last six hundred years.

 

[anommalcolm]

Mordred is already milking that excuse as much as she can along with not wanting to throw her people's lives away for little reward but there is very little she can do if the entire empire is overthrown by her imperial worshipers who call for her to become the empress they want her to be. If she wants to piss away basically all of her popularity and have massive strikes and desertions across her land then sure, she could say no in that case. But considering she has no desire to give up an entire decade's worth of work because she is getting sick of all of the work involved in building a country and doesn't want to do it on twice the scale as before but with like ten to twenty times the population involved, she'll say yes and hope that her kids want to take over for her sooner rather than later.

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Ah, public opinion blow outs driven by people who really don't know what burdens they're asking their leaders to carry! I see now. And I resent them all quite fiercely for it. Poor, poor Mordred!

 

[SouvikKundu]

Faith have an effect on mind of their God. Will it not force her to reconsider? Maybe not total Empire but part of it like wasteland.

 

[DoorAlarm]

but there is very little she can do if the entire empire is overthrown by her imperial worshipers who call for her to become the empress they want her to be.

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Is that foreshadowing that I'm hearing? Because I really want it to be foreshadowing

 

[wowow2264]

Faith have an effect on mind of their God. Will it not force her to reconsider? Maybe not total Empire but part of it like wasteland.

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Faith and her worshipers only have so much impact as she lets them have. All that they currently do is repeatedly request via prayers that they want the empire to become a part of Drachenreich.

Is that foreshadowing that I'm hearing? Because I really want it to be foreshadowing

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Possibly, the set up I did when Khorne made that song is easily leveraged into causing that to happen. But whether or not they never manage to do anything of note besides acting as spies because they are all praying to Mordred who hears every single one of them, or if they manage to take over one, multiple, or all of the mini empires is yet to be decided on by me.

 

[Kioras]

Well, the witch hunters are likely not a state dictated action as much as lone wolves if only a small handful comes through each year.

That is easy enough to explain away.

The big issue might be in a generation or so when all of Mordred's deeds fade into unbelieving myth and some fool decides of the Empire decides that destroy the Witch Queen makes a perfect amount of sense. All they need to do is win and the Empire will naturally unite around the conquer who defeated the feared witch Queen.

Mordred needs a few generations to change the internal economics of the Reich to a fully integrated Renaissance level instead of ranging from the Iron age to the early middle ages. Too many people living in poverty with scarce steel tools.

Not enough towns and cities yet in the Reich and a lack of a middle class. Once that starts going and if the population keeps booming they will probably start expanding and Mordred will instead eliminate some of the worst areas of orcs or worse.

War with the Empire is almost built into the setting since Mordred pushes too many of their buttons. This combined with incompetent leadership means she might be forced to counter attach and settle for slicing pieces off the Empire each time.

At least the Empire only has a few provinces nearby. There is Averland, The Moot and Wissenland.

Mordred may instead decide to properly handle the Sken hordes in the Vault too. Perhaps flood the tunnels with lava.

 

[wowow2264]

At least the Empire only has a few provinces nearby. There is Averland, The Moot and Wissenland.

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Actually, Solland is also there, it wasn't wiped off the map because of Mordred's quick actions.

Mordred may instead decide to properly handle the Sken hordes in the Vault too. Perhaps flood the tunnels with lava.

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Well, first she would have to make sure the lava doesn't leave pockets of skaven able to dig through and take revenge for the slaughter, then she would somehow need to source so much lava that it could flood the tunnels that span the mountains and parts of Drachenreich. I suppose she could produce that much lava via magic but it would take her a while to pump so much into the tunnels. Also she would have to hope that no dwarfs are harmed in this act and that they don't get pissed at her for pouring so much magma into the earth even if it was to get rid of skaven.

Edit: Of course, this is all on the idea that she might decide to flood the skaven tunnels with lava, she could use water, poisonous gas, poisonous water, mud, dirt, or just go down herself and make use of her obscene speed increase to pull off the Greenskin Removal Act: Skaven Edition.

 

[Anti-No]

there is very little she can do if the entire empire is overthrown by her imperial worshipers who call for her to become the empress they want her to be

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A fait accompli of "We have conquered the land, please be our queen?" is VERY different from "we want someone else to come in, conquer the land and violently change everything for the better for us while we sit here and watch".

Faith and her worshipers only have so much impact as she lets them have. All that they currently do is repeatedly request via prayers that they want the empire to become a part of Drachenreich.

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I guess the big question is if they mean it and it translates into actual plans with actual results, or if it stays as "please fix all my problems for me at a cost to yourself and those loyal to you" begging. Sure, The Empire is bad enough that it makes sense they beg for it, but. those are two very different kinds of followers.

Well, first she would have to make sure the lava doesn't leave pockets of skaven able to dig through and take revenge for the slaughter, then she would somehow need to source so much lava that it could flood the tunnels that span the mountains and parts of Drachenreich. I suppose she could produce that much lava via magic but it would take her a while to pump so much into the tunnels. Also she would have to hope that no dwarfs are harmed in this act and that they don't get pissed at her for pouring so much magma into the earth even if it was to get rid of skaven.

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Not sure if this is doable or even a good idea, but step one would definitely be to talk with the dwarves about it, as they would be the closest to "ground zero", so to speak, and the chance of them not being caught on the edges would be basically nil.

 

[AldariSiradla]

If you have not named the Walls...
I suggest the name of Cadia to the venerable defenses.

Kidding aside, I love the plans.
Yes, future proof and modernize.
Oh, the religious nut cases are at it again...
At least they're harmless...somewhat for now.

Ah, it warms my heart to see a mother and her kids play some good games.
And the newbies gawk at the sight.
Now, I would like to see the family have dinner...
And the POV of the newest serving staff at the sight...
While the vet kitchen and serving staff would utter, "Hunger is the enemy." to the newbie.

 

[Khorne]

There will also be very little replenishment of her forces for years since this is tapping basically all of her available forces that aren't a part of the Dragon Guard.

So, while she would have the soldiers to kick their asses all over the map, especially if she took the field herself, she would struggle to hold on to the large swabs of land they would have to occupy and protect from all manner of problems that the imperials never took care of properly because their whole country has been decaying for the last six hundred years.

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It would be a lot like Germany/Prussia. For most of our history, they tend to have a better equipped and better trained army, at least in comparison to other nations of the time, but have very little reserves, both in terms of reservists and conscripts. This can be seen in the strategies of both Germany and Prussia, known as Blitzkrieg or Lightning War, that tried to work around this problem.

As Germany couldn't support a long and drawn out war of attrition they sought to do very quick knockout blows, such as the battle of Verdun in the Franco-Prussian war in 1870, which saw the destruction of most of the currently active and actually experienced and trained armies of France and the capture of the French Emperor Napoleon III.

However the opposite can be seen in WWII during the Invasion of the Soviet Union, with plenty of over the top and glorious victories that saw massive Soviet casualties and POWs, but while great tactical victories were not good strategic victories, as they lost valuable equipment and men that Germany could not replace in enough time to make a difference while the Soviets could very easily replace their men with conscripts and had the willingness to do so.

Basically, it doesn't matter how good your army is, if you can't replace it then it doesn't matter, because it only takes one mistake to lose everything. A good example of this is the Israeli armies idea of, "The first war we lose will be the last we fight."

 

[InfiniteChaosRai]

why the fuck are there meter long posts about the feasible logistics of fielding an army of WHF soldiers in my wish fulfillment Dragon!Mordred SI Kingdom building Curb stomp Magic story?

 

[anommalcolm]

why the fuck are there meter long posts about the feasible logistics of fielding an army of WHF soldiers in my wish fulfillment Dragon!Mordred SI Kingdom building Curb stomp Magic story?

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Because as nerds, we just can't help ourselves. We're sorry!