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Mauling Snarks (Worm) (Complete)

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Unless they're tinker tech and designed to be non-lethal, somehow?

Biggest issue though is that she doesn't have enough "melee" weapons for a full loadout. Dual wielded signs? Sure. But what else?
 
This is what I had in mind...

Primary: Tinkertech pump-action shotgun that fires octagonal "STOP" blocks, with an effective range of 100-180 yards, accurate up to 100-110 yards
Backup Primary: ConFoam sprayer gun (1 spare cylinder)
Secondary: Custom beanbag pistol (x2 for dual-wielding flashiness, if desired)
Melee 1: full-length stop sign (the 'naginata')
Melee 2: dual stop signs (the 'daishō')
Smoke grenades x4
Flashbang x2
Containment Foam grenades x4
 
The shotgun is excessively dangerous, even once it's fixed. As such, maybe a bow with impact detonation con-foam grenade tipped arrows?
 
What if it fired beanbags instead of the octagonal blocks?

The ConFoam arrows sound more like a jungle loadout, IMHO...
 
Huh. I hadn't considered that... I was thinking 'jungle' mainly because of the exploding arrows bit.

That was my brain associating it with Rambo.
 
Why is it that the more I read the coordinator parts in the recent chapters, the more certain I become that worm's infamous escalation is about to come into affect.
 
Kryslin said:
FGMP-16
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Miss Militia: "Huh, this 'Zorg ZF-1' looks useful..."
Maul: "Uh, just don't touch the little red button on the bottom."


SanguisAnima said:
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Thank you.

So that makes it a total of seven, eight if we count the one given to Missy.

... Taylor is definitely starting a gun collection, isn't she? XD
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Don't put quotes in spoiler boxes (or spoiler boxes in quotes). Xenforo has a nice feature where long quote boxes are automatically shrunk with a 'click here to view full quote' button at the bottom, so manually spoilering quote or quote contents is unnessisary and just makes things harder to read.
 
So. Now that I'm finally up to date, I have a question - why does Taylor keep saying the SAW and sniper ammo won't work with her power? Sure she can't double tap with pointy rounds, though she clearly can still use barrel projection as an aim assist. And if she can use the rounded corners on her maul to project at angles she should be able to use the curved sides of the bullets for the barrage trick.

Just like they do we the naval gun actually

In a story we clever capes who notice things this particularly bothers me .
 
Phoenix Wings said:
On the one hand, damn that Chekov's gun was loaded over 100 chapters ago. This is part of why I love Mauling Snarks. On the other hand, I'm a little worried about all those other shards who got themselves offed doing stupid things...
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Well, at least some of them were taken out by an intentionally sabotaged star, but most of them were due to screwing up things they were doing for their hosts. And most of those work in the 'mess with entropy' sandboxes.
Memory Gem said:
What reason would there be to intentionally sabotage a star?

To destroy the four deployed shards?

If so what were the significance of said shards?

And what happened to the parahumans those shards were connected to? (If there were any.)

As for presumably BA, it's likely original
hidden directive, as the first directive mentioned was probably copied from Broadcast, were to ensure the host taken is able to communicate beyond the ordinary ability, why is that?

Curiouser and curiouser.
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Well, if you'd discovered that your network had been compromised, what would you do? Perhaps order the stealth obliteration of the foreign actor, to start with?
MaimakteriAnn said:
So. Now that I'm finally up to date, I have a question - why does Taylor keep saying the SAW and sniper ammo won't work with her power? Sure she can't double tap with pointy rounds, though she clearly can still use barrel projection as an aim assist. And if she can use the rounded corners on her maul to project at angles she should be able to use the curved sides of the bullets for the barrage trick.

Just like they do we the naval gun actually

In a story we clever capes who notice things this particularly bothers me .
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For this, I have quoted part of an earlier chapter for you, that you skimmed/missed/forgot:
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Taylor frowned as the drones started launching again, holding the P90 out for Miss Militia to take. "The bullets aren't blunt enough this time."

"I was wondering if you'd notice," Miss Militia said as she re-made the P90 again. "A little impromptu test, you could say."

"Were you hoping I'd not notice the change and my trick would still work?"

"Basically, yes."

"I suppose I could attempt to project the bullet from one of the flat edges off of the sharp tip to try and make a cone, but because the tip isn't blunt then the simulated impacts won't work, because they only simulate blunt objects."

"That makes sense."

"That and my snark is telling me it's only supposed to be doing two dimensional representations and a cone would be three dimensional. The line to circle is skirting the rules it started with badly enough as it is, and that only works because it is less calculation work. The cone would apparently add an entirely new variable set?"

"It was worth the try, I think."
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Also, though I didn't dig up the quote, for the naval cannon, they were provided with specially-built blunt rounds for it. Hidden under the floor, if I recall correctly, and thus not in the normal ammo cache.
 
SanguisAnima said:
As of this chapter, what were Taylor's guns again? A machinegun, and two pistols?

The reason I was asking is because I just scrolled past a Facebook anime-style ad for the Taurus Raging Bull .44 Magnum... and I wondered what the reactions would be from the following people (if the PRT received a gift box containing the said gun, addressed to Taylor, with no return address):
  • Taylor
  • Missy
  • Hannah
  • Director Piggot
  • Jacob
  • Ethan
On a related note, which would be better, .44 Remington Magnum rounds or .454 Casull FMJ rounds?
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An exceedingly unenthusiastic "Yay, another gun!" followed by the weapon landing in the furthest corner of the gun safe not to be looked at for several years, after which it will be auctioned off for charity.
 
CmptrWz said:
AMMO REASONING
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See, that can explain why the ammo she HAS doesnt work. There is no reason couldnt find ammo with straight sides parallel to the direction of firing. Shells for artillery the size of the naval cannon already typically feature that, though that is usually to include space for payloads.

But several manufacturers already make ammo in the right calibres for sniping that have more than half the bullet surface area perpendicular to the direction of travel, therefore perpendicular to the axis of rotation, therefore would form a plane projection if one were to do so.
 
MaimakteriAnn said:
See, that can explain why the ammo she HAS doesnt work. There is no reason couldnt find ammo with straight sides parallel to the direction of firing. Shells for artillery the size of the naval cannon already typically feature that, though that is usually to include space for payloads.

But several manufacturers already make ammo in the right calibres for sniping that have more than half the bullet surface area perpendicular to the direction of travel, therefore perpendicular to the axis of rotation, therefore would form a plane projection if one were to do so.
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The problem is that the force lines of the sides are perpendicular to the line of force that the bullet would normally have, making a cylinder when spun at those velocities. Again, too many variables. She needs bullets that have a flat or rounded surface intersecting the direction of travel to create her barrage blaster trick.
 
MaimakteriAnn said:
See, that can explain why the ammo she HAS doesnt work. There is no reason couldnt find ammo with straight sides parallel to the direction of firing.
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Many types of automatic weapons have difficulty with reliably loading rounds which have a shape that's not to speck. While they can be worked around, especially in non-combat applications like hunting or target shooting, using less then reliable ammo in combat can be a deadly situation. Better to use standard ammo and avoid jams, especially with a fully automatic weapon.

This is easier to work around with a sniper rifle, especially a bolt action one, but let's face it, using those isn't exactly Maul's style; she's very much a visible close to mid range fighter, not a long range one by choice. Why lug around a large, cumbersome rifle when most of the time combat is at pistol ranges?

Vista, by comparison, is a space crunching long range fighter, and uses rifles appropriately.
 
Another question - It's been months and Taylor hasnt used another vial. When do 'Scotty' get bored and dispense one? It was a motivating concern several times before after all.

Also you keep saying projection, but that is more how the effect is targeted. The actual effect seems to be the impact of the medium object simply occurs instantaneously at the target location, no travel time (even lightspeed travel times) or interaction with the space before the target. Thus I suggest Taylor/Amy try massively negative projection distances. Using a pull type attack would be hilarious, and prevent escapes.

Archeo Lumiere said:
The problem is that the force lines of the sides are perpendicular to the line of force that the bullet would normally have, making a cylinder when spun at those velocities. Again, too many variables. She needs bullets that have a flat or rounded surface intersecting the direction of travel to create her barrage blaster trick.
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Pretty sure youre misinterpreting the blaster trick here. Given you've just described what the blaster trick does and then said 'and she couldnt do that'.

But if you are correct and she can project otherwise than perpendicular to the surface she is projecting from - why doesnt she do that with the hammer and fists and signs and so on? Projecting sideways would wreck the day of everyone who successfully dodged a hammer blow.
 
MaimakteriAnn said:
But if you are correct and she can project otherwise than perpendicular to the surface she is projecting from - why doesnt she do that with the hammer and fists and signs and so on? Projecting sideways would wreck the day of everyone who successfully dodged a hammer blow.
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She always projects lines of force perpendicular to the surface of what she's attacking with. Which is to say, in a straight line from the flat front of what she's swinging. Projecting from the side of an object she's swinging towards whoever or whatever she's attacking would put the line of force at a near right angle from where she would want it, which would only cause unwanted collateral damage, which she goes out of her way to avoid most of the time.
 
Basically the only reason that the Barrage Blaster trick works at all is due to the bullet's rotation, causing BA to use a shortcut when determining what the result of projecting the blunt impact.

Taylor's melee weapons don't have the necessary spin to allow BA to use the barrage shortcut, plus she would likely consider such to be ludicrous overkill for purposes.
 
The tip of the bullet has to be flat for her barrage blaster trick, I think. And the sides can not slope towards the tip at all. Unless the bullet is a rifled, has sides which project forward at the same angle in the back as they do at the front, and have a flat tip, Taylor can't hit a large area with one bullet. Here, let me try again... If projecting off the side of the bullet and drawing a line as it spins would make a cone shape, it wont work. Maybe some visual aids will help. This is a sniper bullet, Taylor can't do the barrage blaster trick with it. Nor will it work with this bullet. One of the bullets in this picture however may work with it.
 
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FaerieKnight79 said:
The tip of the bullet has to be flat for her barrage blaster trick, I think. And the sides can not slope towards the tip at all. Unless the bullet is a rifled, has sides which project forward at the same angle in the back as they do at the front, and have a flat tip, Taylor can't hit a large area with one bullet. Here, let me try again... If projecting off the side of the bullet and drawing a line as it spins would make a cone shape, it wont work. Maybe some visual aids will help. This is a sniper bullet, Taylor can't do the barrage blaster trick with it. Nor will it work with this bullet. One of the bullets in this picture however may work with it.
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Third picture is the second picture.
 
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