i could do the riding part of the wrecking ball stunt in real life without any injuries the wrecking ball itself didn't hit anything it was swung along side the building instead of into it
FaerieKnight79
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Exactly, the only clue she might be more durable was helping to untangle the two garbage dumpsters. And Vicky may not have known about that. Even then, super strength doesn't always accompany superhuman durability. Usually yes, due to denser muscles and bones. But not always. You don't want to know how many people I've had make super strong characters in games who specifically had the flaw of their arms are the only super strong part of them. Just because in theory you are strong enough to lift 20 tons, doesn't mean your shoulders and spine can handle the strain of lifting 20 tons.
also how much strength was really demonstrated on the dumpsters as i recall she used a pry bar as part of what she did ... did she really show any extra strength or was it just a willingness to get up on an unstable surface to properly see where the force needed to be applied
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It was commented upon by those there her greater then normal strength did help. But how much strength she was using, that was probably unclear.
I think that's the definition of manslaughter, where you don't mean to kill, but kill anyway
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Vault166
Demonic Giggling Crow (Wants the Shiny!)
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Wrong there was the scene were a bullet hit her leg and she didn't notice, and while some might attribute that to the tinker tech costume, I'm pretty sure hat the gut wrench reaction is a brute rating.
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Does Vicky know about that though? And it could easily be explained as armor. After all, other wards wear armor that gives them an effective brute rating.
Tisaku
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-Somehow I don't think that your argument works.-
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Hmmm, let's recap here. Taylor triggers. Uncle Jack visits his favorite niece. Uncle Jack invites Bonesaw to upgrade Taylor. Taylor makes friends with Panacea and Bonesaw. Taylor shuts down Vicky's aura. Taylor joins the Wards. Taylor reveals herself to Vicky and gets brain damage.
Everyone seems concerned about Vicky getting punished.
My question is, What happens when Uncle Jack and BFF Bonesaw learn that Vicky tried to take Taylor's head off? The S9 are bad enough when they are happy and "Playing". What happens when they get pissed?
Everyone seems concerned about Vicky getting punished.
My question is, What happens when Uncle Jack and BFF Bonesaw learn that Vicky tried to take Taylor's head off? The S9 are bad enough when they are happy and "Playing". What happens when they get pissed?
Evil Plan
Not nearly so nefarious as my name signifies
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I mean, the fic's in third person and has always been kind of loose about sticking to its apparent-nominal viewpoint character? This it is the first time I recall that it's been loose to nearly this degree, granted.
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I do have to say that that I consider Glory Girl's actions in this fic to be OoC, She's been made into a caricature, a stereotypical dumb blond with an ultraviolent streak.
Canon Victoria isn't such a psychotic idiot that she'd punch a ward with lethal force, she's just thoughtless- in the interlude that she injures a nazi thug it isn't because she directly hit him, it's because she kicked a dumpster at him without considering what would happen when it hit.
A ward used their powers to disable hers, Glory Girl's mother is a noted lawyer who distrusts the PRT, and the only response she can think of is attack with lethal force? Those are the actions of someone who lacks self control to the point of mental illness.
Canon Victoria isn't such a psychotic idiot that she'd punch a ward with lethal force, she's just thoughtless- in the interlude that she injures a nazi thug it isn't because she directly hit him, it's because she kicked a dumpster at him without considering what would happen when it hit.
A ward used their powers to disable hers, Glory Girl's mother is a noted lawyer who distrusts the PRT, and the only response she can think of is attack with lethal force? Those are the actions of someone who lacks self control to the point of mental illness.
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Her brain has been damaged enough that she is heavily leaning on her snark to process things. Her snark doesn't see Amy, it sees Shaper. Still Taylor's viewpoint, it is supposed to somewhat show just how badly she was injured. Probably doesn't help that as I picture it she can't actually see at all, her eyes are non-functional due to the damage, so her "sight" is entirely through her snark. The fact that her snark is focused on Shaper just makes it more likely that Shaper is the one Taylor "sees".
I would ask that you wait a couple of chapters to find out more of what was going on. Had Taylor been aware of some of it and the implications she probably would have done the reveal via telephone. While visiting Florida or something.
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While visiting Florida ... on Aleph. And holding Siberian's hand.I would ask that you wait a couple of chapters to find out more of what was going on. Had Taylor been aware of some of it and the implications she probably would have done the reveal via telephone. While visiting Florida or something.
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I'm not trying to excuse it. I'm saying that I'm utterly flabbergasted that a) she hasn't been arrested yet, and b) Danny hasn't demanded her head on a pike.
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Nobody's excusing it. We're in fact expecting the book to be thrown at her. What we are doing is showing that this incident doesn't come out of the blue. Part of the reason for Vicky to be unconcerned is that she HAS used lethal force before on gang members, and her step sister has always fixed things in the past. She quite frankly has no concept of how to control her own strength. Carol may well be in shock to an extent, and is realizing that her daughter has been mastering her ever since Vicky first triggered. Amy is more concerned bout how Taylor is doing right now. As for Miss Militia, we don't know just how she's feeling. But I got the impression of her being very angry and controlling her reactions because of that. Or in other words, "I'm so incandescently furious I have reached a state of appearing calm". Once Taylor wakes up and they learn the full extent of how much damage Vicky did to the newest ward... Well, if Taylor ends up as Amy fears then things will not go well for Vicky.
That said, I imagine when her uncle hears about what happened (and he WILL hear about it) Victoria is gonna get a visit from some people she'd really not want a visit from.
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Dark Mage
Sanity is really overrated...
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So a parahuman hero with emotional control issues attacked Taylor using her powers.
Said attack results in Taylor nearly dying and ending up in the hospital with possible mental issues.
The authorities know who did it, but decide not to arrestSophia Victoria for . . . reasons?
And here I thought this story was going to avoid the rails of canon!
So Taylor is going to wake up and go the villain route this time since the heroes suck right?
Said attack results in Taylor nearly dying and ending up in the hospital with possible mental issues.
The authorities know who did it, but decide not to arrest
And here I thought this story was going to avoid the rails of canon!
So Taylor is going to wake up and go the villain route this time since the heroes suck right?
Czlyydwr Llrngwl
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... S9 Glory Girl is not a route I would have expected, but they are a covert therapy group for capes with violence problems in this AU. It would be a final death knell for New Wave, though, and that's five or six hero capes getting, at best, severely distracted from heroing. Not sure if want.
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Vicky's fate is still up in the air, remember that. She attacked someone as they were apologizing with no regard to how strong she herself is or how it would likely affect the one she attacked. Not an unusual situation for her, she just usually focuses her anger induced nearly fatal pummeling on gang members. Which if it ever became public knowledge would likely still be a death knell for New Wave. After all, how can they promote public accountability if one of their members has been covering up near fatal assaults regularly?
I don't think Vicky will be joining the S9, but she might be getting an unpleasantness visit from them. Is there something about her powers that causes her to lash out without regard to consequences? Or is it just her being a spoiled princess who until now got away with it? She may well be forced into the Wards program (and likely shipped elsewhere) though. Sophia got forced into the wards for attacking criminals with lethal force. I can't imagine anything less happening to Vicky now that her past offenses are cropping up, and she's attacked a Ward with lethal force. But if she caused permanent harm such as turning Maul into a vegetable... I suspect things would go even worse for her.
I don't think Vicky will be joining the S9, but she might be getting an unpleasantness visit from them. Is there something about her powers that causes her to lash out without regard to consequences? Or is it just her being a spoiled princess who until now got away with it? She may well be forced into the Wards program (and likely shipped elsewhere) though. Sophia got forced into the wards for attacking criminals with lethal force. I can't imagine anything less happening to Vicky now that her past offenses are cropping up, and she's attacked a Ward with lethal force. But if she caused permanent harm such as turning Maul into a vegetable... I suspect things would go even worse for her.
Sure there is lets say Vicky had a major part of her identity altered against her will like say a power that she has defined her life around for years that was as much a part of her as any body part was suddenly violated and changed without her permission this violation changed everything in her life because she could no longer depend on her own power people started to like her less including her parents and she had no idea why and to top it off the one who did this to her had the balls to think just saying I'm sorry was enough of an excuse.
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@CmptrWz will there be an explanation as to why Vicky hasn't been arrested already? If so, I'll shut up about it.
If not -- why the feck not?
If not -- why the feck not?
"So the power that made everyone love you and make allowances for your behaviour isn't working any more? Not an excuse, princess. Learn to adult like the rest of us."
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Vicky hitting Taylor hard enough to kill a normal human, and admitting that she didn't know Taylor could survive this, is a major thing. Compounding this is the fact that Taylor had just identified herself as a Ward.
This is the kind of thing where the D.A. starts with attempted murder, assault with a parahuman power, and whatever laws they've got specifically against attacking members of the Protectorate. If you're really damn lucky you might be able to plea bargain down to something that won't put your ass in jail for the next few decades.
This is the kind of thing where the D.A. starts with attempted murder, assault with a parahuman power, and whatever laws they've got specifically against attacking members of the Protectorate. If you're really damn lucky you might be able to plea bargain down to something that won't put your ass in jail for the next few decades.
Yeah, let's try the "I got freaked out when my powers shut off after I subconsciously tried to Master somebody" defense as a justification for Brute-punching somebody and see how long it takes her to end up in the Birdcage.
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"A week after it happened."
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Added to that, I don't think Taylor thought a simple 'sorry' WOULD suffice. I don't think she had time to say anything more.
There are explanations, though we don't get to see the full rationale behind them. Many of them stem from politics and protecting Taylor, who was identified as Vicky's target by the public (we see some of that next chapter). As I already posted, if they claim Vicky hit Taylor at full strength (and thus it was a killing blow) things become a problem for Taylor's secrets. Without that all the public can know she did was seriously injure Taylor, which was a lapse in judgement/control, so good luck explaining why the heroine who had a lapse in judgement/control is being tried for attempted murder. And that is before we get into some of the other concerns, like some of the extra details behind why Vicky punched Taylor in the first place.
For reference: Chapter 17 shows some of what is being done with Vicky, and Chapter 18 puts some additional pieces in place in a recap session. I believe the last piece of the puzzle you have to wait until Chapter 20 for.
Oh, and for the people saying the power disabling was a week ago, I am not 100% sure where you are getting a week, as my rough timeline without going back and directly confirming things says it was nearly three weeks. Said rough timeline says that Taylor disabled Vicky's powers on Sunday the 9th (not that I have been referencing the dates), and the punch was delivered on Saturday the 29th. Admittedly, we pretty much skipped an entire week in there to not describe Taylor spending all day at home studying to take the Arcadia exams...
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