MakeAmericaSaneAgain. A 2016 political campaign.

[] Practice debate. Having a few practice debates with the team should get George in the right state of mind for August. Sure, it's awhile away, but it doesn't hurt to prepare. (Debating skill increased by +10)

Roll = 12. Failure. +5
I think this roll means we can't actually improve before the debate starts, which is fucking annoying considering how many actions we've put into this. That said, I'm honestly not sure because the stats on the front page haven't been updated in a while and I still don't know if our skills degrade when we're training them.
I'm also not sure what our financial situation is but since we just rolled a 100 on the wrestlers, I'm not going to worry about that too much.
 
I think this roll means we can't actually improve before the debate starts, which is fucking annoying considering how many actions we've put into this. That said, I'm honestly not sure because the stats on the front page haven't been updated in a while and I still don't know if our skills degrade when we're training them.
I'm also not sure what our financial situation is but since we just rolled a 100 on the wrestlers, I'm not going to worry about that too much.
Yeah, sorry about the wobky details. Debating/Issue familiarity don't decay on turns you train, though. I'll update everything after dinner, when I can get my calculator out
 
Yeah, sorry about the wobky details. Debating/Issue familiarity don't decay on turns you train, though. I'll update everything after dinner, when I can get my calculator out

Wait, but then we've absolutely leveled up. If we've been doing these straight for the past few turns, with no negative modifiers (from what we thought was the constant assault of -5 to familiarity), then we should've gotten a new level now.
 
Wait, but then we've absolutely leveled up. If we've been doing these straight for the past few turns, with no negative modifiers (from what we thought was the constant assault of -5 to familiarity), then we should've gotten a new level now.
Probably! I'll have to go back and count everything up. I'm currently just putting off doing the financial math.
 
Right, did the math. You leveled up debating (just) but your issue familiarity is at 75/80
 
And yeah, I agree with the person earlier: what was the point of the Trump thing?

I mean, we know that his plan is to have no plan, and that he basically didn't have a campaign structure until, like, next year.

Admittedly the QM could throw a curve ball and make it so that Trump is really competent and *bursts out laughing*.
 
Right, did the math. You leveled up debating (just) but your issue familiarity is at 75/80
According to the front page it's the other way around. Don't know if that's a mistake.
Another question though, if we don't train debating and issue familiarity after we've reached lvl 4 in both, will they decay back to lvl 3 or will they remain on 4(0/100) indefinitely?
 
And yeah, I agree with the person earlier: what was the point of the Trump thing?

I mean, we know that his plan is to have no plan, and that he basically didn't have a campaign structure until, like, next year.

Admittedly the QM could throw a curve ball and make it so that Trump is really competent and *bursts out laughing*.
As much as I can I'm following how these campaigns were actually run.

Spying on Trump was preeeeeetty much pointless :D
 
As much as I can I'm following how these campaigns were actually run.

Spying on Trump was preeeeeetty much pointless :D

Yeah, at this stage of the campaign, Trump is way more about not losing than winning. Like, he's at the stage where even he doubts he'll actually win, but he doesn't want to 'not run' or turn tail and all, yet at the same time he announced in the Summer specifically so that if he flames out by the fall he can still go and run the Apprentice.

I mean, he's still an arrogant asshole, but even he looked in a mirror and said, "I want to keep my options open." And to a certain extent, it should be noted, Trump sometimes *did* try to have an actual campaign, but it kept on falling through. He tried to line up endorsements and it went nowhere, he tried to collect money and it was pitiful compared to others: at every point he wasn't a genius trailblazer trying out a new way of winning a campaign, but someone whose first instinct was 'regular campaign' but was too incompetent to actually do so, and so muddled along...and then somehow it worked.

The only good thing I can say here, for us, by the way, is that in theory if we somehow completely wrecked Trump by the fall, there's a (rather small, but still) chance he'd drop out.

We're not going to manage that, but...on reflection the time to knock out Trump entirely was now, and the candidates who actually had the power to take the wind from his sails (IE, not us, not more than a little) were too busy doing other things.
 
Turn 7. Results.
[] No. What are you? Fucking stupid? You suck at dealing with people. People are stupid and smell bad! You should stick to what you know.

You decline the kind offers, for now. Jeanie insists you brush up on your own presentation, arguing having an actual immigrant (from a country white enough to not cause controversy) talk about his backstory, could boost the campaign. She might be onto something. (New Campaign options unlocked!)

[] Yes. Things went great last time! (O'Reilly - Prison Reform)

Roll = 89. Pataki rolls O'Reilly over.

O'Reilly: Love him or hate him, you've almost certainly heard of him, tonight we have Former Governor of New York, George Pataki. Welcome to the program George.

O'Reilly gestures to Pataki, and the camera tracks over to him.

O'Reilly: So, George. You've been making a lot of waves lately. Getting endorsements from high profile media personalities, especially rappers. Now, most Republicans wouldn't even know these people, and yet you seem to be actively chasing after them, why is that? Do you see something nobody else does here?

Pataki grins widely, offering a hand to O'Reilly, which he pointedly does not shake, earning him a scowl from the former governor.

Pataki: It is nice to be on the program with you, William. I do think I see something other people don't in the african-american community. It isn't much of a secret after the Clinton administration started it's misguided war on 'superpredators' that the african-american community has been badly affected by the byzantine, confusing preference for overincarceration. Huge numbers of people are being locked up, in state, federal and private prisons. It's madness out there right now!

O'Reilly frowns at being called 'William' and seems to grow more agitated as Pataki talks about prison reform

O'Reilly: So, let me get this straight. You are arguing for clemency for criminals? Tha-

Pataki interrupts, as O'Reilly gets more visibly agitated.

Pataki: That's not what I'm saying at all! What I'm saying, is that if huge numbers of people are being locked up, at a rate far surpassing North Korea, we may have something to look at. Especially regarding Private Prisons. Grossly inefficient wastes of federal and state money. Private Prisons are a personal pet peeve of mine. They are a symptom of the kind of cross pollination between government and business that I'm standing up against.

Pataki relaxes back into his chair, O'Reilly shuffles some notes about, trying to regain his place

O'Reilly: Well, that is certainly an….interesting point, but what are you talking about, with private prisons?

Pataki gives O'Reilly a friendly grin, rising back up a bit in his chair, projecting a calm and powerful demeanour

Pataki: Well, what I'm talking about, is how if these prisons want to remain functional, operating at a level where they aren't soviet-style gulags, they require huge amounts of state and federal funding. We are basically paying for a prison already! Not only that, but more often than not, the prisons will give kickbacks to state governors in exchange for bigger 'grants' to 'improve the prison' which they almost always pocket for themselves. Why do we pay for a service that rips us off? That'd be like sticking with a telecomm provider after they tripled your pay plan. It's not just stupid, it's bad economics.

O'Reilley seems to consider this for a moment, nodding slowly.

Well, be that as it may, I think it is hard to argue that we are being overly strict, with child molesters being allowed to walk away. Would you say those people need their sentences reformed? Are you advocating for lighter sentences for murderers, and drug pushers? I mean, can you serio-

O'Reilley is clearly getting much more agitated, as he begins to raise his voice. Pataki doesn't seem bothered, however.

Not at all! If anything, reforming the criminal justice system would ensure less of these people slip through the cracks, and that they serve out the sentence they deserve. It would save money, it would serve justice. Really, the fact the government hasn't seriously pursued sentencing reform highlight just how systemic crony capitalism has become, where kickbacks to your friends are more important than votes.

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You click the screen off, that was good! You are sure you'll read more about it in various news articles. Hopefully this helps shore up support for the campaign!

Campaign

[] Money makes the (political) world go round! You are cashed up, and can now largely support yourself, New York might be tapped for a little bit, but you can always head to California, Texas and even Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Michigan for cash! Getting some more big donations would be a huge boon, but you shouldn't neglect the small folk either. (Cost: Free. Chance of Success: 50% Result: +Unknown amount of K. Possible major fundraiser contacted.) - California

Roll = 40 + 10. Narrow success. All hail the power of rap music!

Well, Hakeem is picking up for Cool J's slack, he's been campaigning hard in the music industry, not to get endorsements, but to get more donations to your office. He's been going studio to studio, calling his friends, calling his foes. He's going the full nine yards! (Chamillionaire raises 435k for the Campaign. 2.2m for AABA PAC.)

[] Smackdown! Well, the alcohol fueled madness that was dinner with the Johnsons was a great time! Dwayne, however, wants to fly to New York this time, to chat with George, and co-ordinate with fellow pro-pataki wrestlers. They haven't endorsed, yet, but he assures you it is only a matter of time. (Cost: 15k. Chance of Success: 45% Result: Wrestling Endorsements.)

Roll = 100. The Rock recovers from the flu, major wrestling endorsements, huge cash influx, the firestorm grows more intense.

Well, shit. Dwayne is back! (Covered in Interlude - The Trouble with Trump)

[] Hunt for endorsers. With Jeb! On the decline already, and Walker's campaign in bloody, bitter tatters right out of the gate, it would be a good idea to go hunt for more endorsers. It can't hurt! (Cost: 10k Chance of Success: 60% Result: Endorsers found. +Momentum in State.) - New Hampshire

Roll = 92. Major endorsement. Sen. Kelly Ayotte.

Well, after a few calls to Senator Ayotte, she's cut you a deal. Pataki will help campaign with her, and at the same time, she will endorse him, hold events with him when he is in New Hampshire, and throw her good name behind the campaign. (Senator Kelly Ayotte has endorsed the Campaign. Has joined 'People before Politics PAC')

Research

[] Keeping tabs. All considered, this was nearly a fucking catastrophe. Nearly being the operative word here. It wasn't, not quite. Still, now you've got the basic outline of Walker's campaign, and sent him into paranoia mode, it might be a good idea to search out everyone else. (Cost: 5k Chance of Success: 65% Time to Completion: Two Weeks Result: Information on a specific campaign gained.) - Donald Jonathan Trump

Roll = 4. Critical failure. Narrowly avoided criminal incident. -34k. Harry Enten very agitated.

Well….fuck. That wasn't….that wasn't good at all. (Covered in Interlude - The Trouble with Trump)

[] The Beanslide begins. Apparently Harry has been taking Scott Walker's attacks very personally. You can't blame him. You have been as well. He's a real piece of work, that slick-haired twat. Harry's got an idea to help screw him, though. (Cost: 15k upfront. Unknown amount down the road. Chance of Success: Unknown. Time to Completion: Unknown. Result: Harry Enten appeased. Otherwise unknown. This action locks until completion)

Roll = 30. Radio silence for now. Beanslide continues to build.

The silence this week from Harry has been deafening. Especially after that disaster with Trump.

[] Invulnerable. Harry wants to conduct a sweep of the state organizations for spies. To make sure your organization is tight and unbeatable. (Cost: 20k. Time: 2 turns.)

Roll = 56. Two walkerites found. Purged.

Well, at least Harry has talked somewhat this week. Mostly he's been hunting down Scott Walker's spies. It's about time you hit back at that fucker. Catching them has been good, though. They are still working for you, as aides to Pataki. You even promoted them! After all, for now, you can feed bullshit information to them, and when you get sick of that, swoop in, grab them, and expose them!

Pataki

[] Practice debate. Having a few practice debates with the team should get George in the right state of mind for August. Sure, it's awhile away, but it doesn't hurt to prepare. (Debating skill increased by +10)

Roll = 12. Failure. +5

Well, Pataki is learning some stuff. Frankly, with taking care of his wife, and going on the O'Reilly factor, he has been flat out this week. Still, you get the feeling he is holding himself better than before.

(Level up! Pataki is now Debating Skill 4.

[] Practice Issue familiarity. This is important for when the debate season starts, but also if you have to give interviews. Having George able to not fuck up the few interviews he will land would be a very, very good idea. (Issue Familiarity increased by +10)

Roll = 58. Success. +10

You feel like if you'd just had a bit more time this week, things could've gone so much better! Still, Pataki is mostly caught up on the broad strokes of stuff, it is the finer details you are worried about. Still, you've got a tiny bit more time to deal with this, fix everything up.

[] Brushing up old contacts. Pataki knew a lot of people, back in the day, and his personal word carries a helluva lot more weight than yours. Maybe he can dig up some endorsers? (Cost: 10K Chance of Success: 75% Result: Endorsers found. +Momentum in State. Specify state.) - New England

Roll = 43. Major endorsement. Fmr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Well….Rudy is in your corner. It isn't surprising, given that he and George are friends, and worked together through 9/11. Still, it is probably a hefty boost to the campaign. He's not going to campaign all that hard, but hey, every bit helps.

People before Politics PAC roll = 94 + 15 (Kelly Ayotte overseeing). Well, holy fuck! The PAC guys are at it again, though they aren't helping you fight the GOP primary right now, they've been crashing hard against Clinton, and of course, Ayotte's chief rival. They also ran some spots for Mark Kirk. Who the fuck is he? (Clinton - 10 momentum nationwide. Maggie Hassan - 5 momentum. Mark Kirk +5 Momentum)

Libby Pataki

Libby is back, after some TLC from her husband, and has texted you that she is ready to go on Monday. Should be good!

James Todd Smith

James is still sick, but he sounds noticeably better. He wants to talk to you next week, about something very, very big. (-1 Campaign action next turn)

African-Americans for a Better America PAC roll = 49. AABA PAC conserves its strength, gets ready for next week.
 
But waaaaaaay better than the current history. Seriously, I'm bloody scared and I live in England! I can't imagine how the Colonists feel!
 
To be honest, the way things are going, I'm kind of worried that the general election might be a bit easy. Clinton's favourables aren't good, and her fundamentals are exceptionally weak. Pataki's are much, much better.
 
To be honest, the way things are going, I'm kind of worried that the general election might be a bit easy. Clinton's favourables aren't good, and her fundamentals are exceptionally weak. Pataki's are much, much better.

Okay, one thing to remember. Pataki was never a serious candidate.

At the moment, and IRL, he was "Generic Republican."

Generic Republican always does better than Actual Republican.

Once he actually has to stand and stops being a way to say, "I wish the Republicans were more like they used to be in the 1990s, and Pataki sounds like he might be good" then he becomes, you know, a candidate like any other.

Not that he's going to be unable to win (as bad as that is, overall[1]), but don't assume that Pataki's numbers right now reflect reality if he were actually the candidate.

[1] Pataki's a moderate Republican, but the people elected *aren't* going to be, and so you're going to have a Republican party struggling as hard as they can to go more right while Pataki attempts to (and probably fails) keep them more centrist. But that's far off, so eh. Also it's a Quest, so...
 
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Okay, one thing to remember. Pataki was never a serious candidate.

At the moment, and IRL, he was "Generic Republican."

Generic Republican always does better than Actual Republican.

Once he actually has to stand and stops being a way to say, "I wish the Republicans were more like they used to be in the 1990s, and Pataki sounds like he might be good" then he becomes, you know, a candidate like any other.

Not that he's going to be unable to win (as bad as that is, overall[1]), but don't assume that Pataki's numbers right now reflect reality if he were actually the candidate.

[1] Pataki's a moderate Republican, but the people elected *aren't* going to be, and so you're going to have a Republican party struggling as hard as they can to go more right while Pataki attempts to (and probably fails) keep them more centrist. But that's far off, so eh. Also it's a Quest, so...

Well, yes, it is a quest. However, you've got to keep in mind one of the reasons Clinton was doing so well, is that Donald Trump is so unbelieavbly unpopular.
 
Well, yes, it is a quest. However, you've got to keep in mind one of the reasons Clinton was doing so well, is that Donald Trump is so unbelieavbly unpopular.

Sure, I'm just pointing out that Pataki isn't necessarily as good as he looks on paper, because, I mean: example.

Colin Powell was surprisingly popular as someone people would say, "Hey, he'd make a great candidate, we all support him."

People like checking down Generic/Sensible-Moderate Republican, who is of course a being of pure quantum. He is in favor of all Conservative positions you like, and none that you dislike. :V

Then you get an actual moderate Republican and you're like, "RINO!" or "Man, even being moderate, he's still to the right of me, I guess I won't vote."
 
Sure, I'm just pointing out that Pataki isn't necessarily as good as he looks on paper

Yeah, the way QuestPataki is going does not seem to be the way you win Republican primaries these days.

If I was following this in the real world papers, I'd be expecting QuestPataki to flame out at about 20-30% support and being unable to win more than a couple state primaries.

And there are a few things in the future for QuestPataki that I expect will be very difficult for him and could lead to competitors framing him unfavorably.

fasquardon
 
welp, remember everyone shiton of other elections are also happening, we COULD try and pull a mass reform movement, #LetsGoBackToTheGoodOldDays republicans will like that slogan XD
probably spew some stuff about american exceptionalism, and the need to improve as our responsibility to the dream of the founding fathers?
I mean both trump and clinton is already pretty much splitting their party's as time goes on, we could capitalize on that/ and or prepare for that.
 
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